BGMan
Master Don Juan
I have read Doc Love a lot over the year; in fact, I have taken all his articles from AskMen.com and put them in a notebook. I think that I know enough now to actually comment on what he says, and maybe help some of those newbies out there. I haven't actually bought his "System" (because I don't have a credit card), but from what I've read here, other guys have said that one can read his articles and get his mindset from there. So here goes.
First of all, Doc Love, in his introduction, talks about Challenge, Interest Level and the Reality and Bottom Line Factors. While I endorse him completely on the concept of Challenge (as well as the importance in getting the home phone number), in the other areas, especially Interest Level, he's a bit off. For instance, he says that it is female Interest Level, and NOT male Interest Level, which dictates the health of a relationship.
There is a problem with this theory. Since most of the guys he has experience with are AFCs (since they are the ones who generally write to him), he's naturally going to state this because the Interest Level of an AFC in a girl is nearly always higher than vice versa. However, I have been on a couple of dates where the girl's interest in me was considerably higher than mine was in her. In fact, after the date, I decided not to ask her out again because I just knew that I would never have sufficient interest in her to sustain a relationship.
Secondly, he urges his students to give up much too easily. He apparently thinks that if a girl has OVERT "low Interest Level", then she's not worth dating, and hell will freeze over before she will ever be.
Finally, his use of the Bottom Line Factor is off. He says that girls with high Interest Level NEVER breaks dates and is always there to help you. He asks, "how many dates have YOU broken in your entire life? Answer, less than one."
Again, this relates to guys generally acting needy. First, we don't break dates because we are almost always the ones to set them up in the first place, and we are generally careful to make sure nothing gets in the way. But even so, if something DID come up, I would STILL break it because I knew that I could always ask her out again, and would reschedule only if I had an available time. No sweat. Likewise, a girl who's not a needy, clingy female AFC, even if she has high Interest Level, WILL break a date with you if there's a genuine reason. (And if you ask to reschedule, she WILL do so.)
But if a guy just doesn't CARE about what a girl's Interest Level in him is -- as long as it seems above 50%, the only "analyzing" I'd do -- and she doesn't give him excuses such as LJBF or "I have to do my laundry" or whatever (the "kiss of death"), and most of all, if he has several women on his list (VERY important), then he not only doesn't need to, but he shouldn't, worry about her Interest Level otherwise.
It's also a known fact that girls don't fall in love as quickly as guys do. For you Chem majors, the Bunsen burner is male and the hot plate is female. If you give up on her before her "hot plate" heats up, you may miss out on a lot!
The Bottom Line Factor ALSO says, "if a girl still likes you, and hasn't given you the kiss of death, you still have a chance if you stay cool and keep the Challenge cookin'."
BGMan
[This message has been edited by BGMan (edited 11-27-2002).]
First of all, Doc Love, in his introduction, talks about Challenge, Interest Level and the Reality and Bottom Line Factors. While I endorse him completely on the concept of Challenge (as well as the importance in getting the home phone number), in the other areas, especially Interest Level, he's a bit off. For instance, he says that it is female Interest Level, and NOT male Interest Level, which dictates the health of a relationship.
There is a problem with this theory. Since most of the guys he has experience with are AFCs (since they are the ones who generally write to him), he's naturally going to state this because the Interest Level of an AFC in a girl is nearly always higher than vice versa. However, I have been on a couple of dates where the girl's interest in me was considerably higher than mine was in her. In fact, after the date, I decided not to ask her out again because I just knew that I would never have sufficient interest in her to sustain a relationship.
Secondly, he urges his students to give up much too easily. He apparently thinks that if a girl has OVERT "low Interest Level", then she's not worth dating, and hell will freeze over before she will ever be.
Finally, his use of the Bottom Line Factor is off. He says that girls with high Interest Level NEVER breaks dates and is always there to help you. He asks, "how many dates have YOU broken in your entire life? Answer, less than one."
Again, this relates to guys generally acting needy. First, we don't break dates because we are almost always the ones to set them up in the first place, and we are generally careful to make sure nothing gets in the way. But even so, if something DID come up, I would STILL break it because I knew that I could always ask her out again, and would reschedule only if I had an available time. No sweat. Likewise, a girl who's not a needy, clingy female AFC, even if she has high Interest Level, WILL break a date with you if there's a genuine reason. (And if you ask to reschedule, she WILL do so.)
But if a guy just doesn't CARE about what a girl's Interest Level in him is -- as long as it seems above 50%, the only "analyzing" I'd do -- and she doesn't give him excuses such as LJBF or "I have to do my laundry" or whatever (the "kiss of death"), and most of all, if he has several women on his list (VERY important), then he not only doesn't need to, but he shouldn't, worry about her Interest Level otherwise.
It's also a known fact that girls don't fall in love as quickly as guys do. For you Chem majors, the Bunsen burner is male and the hot plate is female. If you give up on her before her "hot plate" heats up, you may miss out on a lot!
The Bottom Line Factor ALSO says, "if a girl still likes you, and hasn't given you the kiss of death, you still have a chance if you stay cool and keep the Challenge cookin'."
BGMan
[This message has been edited by BGMan (edited 11-27-2002).]