mASF is full of simultaneously successful independent models which can be used effectively if congruent. We all use many models, and their strength is predominantly determined by their congruence to themselves. People have a tendency to gravitate to models that come naturally to them, or make immediate sense. This is great, and if I'm working with a newbie, I will usually encourage him to start with a model that he feels comfortable with. BUT, because I'm a SUCKER and OBSESSED with PU, I like to try new things all the time, and experiment with all kinds of styles. Furthermore, experimenting with something different than you're used to will push your abilities, expand your model of the world and force you to grow in new ways.
For example, when I first met Dimitri, I was shocked. The first thing I said to myself was: "There is no way this is Dimitri." Then I thought "There's NO WAY this guy actually gets laid." (No offense my man, just first impressions!
) My own success had come from a natural style heavily influenced by the predominant crews here on mASF, what I saw that day blew my mind. His style was unique and fresh. Completely spontaneous and completely his own, I could not correlate a single bit of his game with mainstream ASF game. He violated all the rules and had utter disregard for current models and trends. We would open a 3-set, and while I was demonstrating the power and consistency of opinion openers, Dimitri would come in and physically PICK UP ONE OF THE GIRLS AND SWING HER AROUND! And they LOVED IT! People walking by in the mall were shocked, but he DIDN'T care - no one mattered BUT HIM. That's what being alpha really is - doing exactly what you want with no hesitation and complete certainty it will work.
So we spent most of the summer sarging for entire weekends. Starting friday evening, going straight until sunday evening - looking back it was probably not a very healthy thing to do, but I learned a lot from him, and hopefully he learned from me as well. Most of the time was spent in the malls and on the streets of Boston - it was pure, unadulterated daygame. As a result, I had to invent new models to even comprehend what Dimitri was doing. (My Balance attraction with value post is a good example, and actually is a recommended prerequisite to this post.) Over time, I have devised models for all kinds of things - models for natural styles, "indirect" styles, pimp game (of which my demonstration vs. verbalization post is a part of, along with making yourself physically scarce, being more interested in getting non-sexual things from her (See Dimitri's supply and demand post for more on this), etc..), an assortment of different types of approaching styles, etc... but all that stuff is content for another post!
So here, without further ado, is a crash course for the style of pickup I prefer most:
DIRECT GAME
I. Who can use direct game? Why use direct game? Direct game is a game based on value and self respect. It is based on honesty and disregard for societal constructs. It is completely absent of any takeaways intended to manipulate interest, direct invalidation, and disrespect. I would suggest that direct game can be used by anyone ESPECIALLY newbie's because of it's simplicity, efficiency and congruence with the newbie's intentions. People also like direct game because it allows them to persist confidently without pretending to be hard-to-get.
It is very effective on girls who have high moral standards and have not yet fallen into the party chick trap. Usually the girls are passionate about something in their life, and had maybe one or two long term relationships. It tends to be less effective on girls who have been emotionally damaged by countless other players who have desensitized them to value based attraction by repeated cycles of attention and indifference. They have already been exposed to intense and crippling physical attraction, and despite the fact that they know it's bad for them, they cannot resist. There are also a lot of girls who have experienced this, but have decided that they do not want it anymore, and this method will work especially well with them.
On a side note, direct game is a GREAT FRAME for creating relationships. It can also set a good foundation for transitioning to indirect game or pimp-style game post conversion. Conversely if you start with indirect or pimp-style game it is near impossible to transition back to direct.
II. Indirect Vs. Direct Game The main differences between indirect and direct game are TECHNICAL ones. That is why direct is just as effective, but in many ways MORE efficient than indirect game. One difference is the frame of the opener. Early theories supporting the effectiveness of opinion openers stated that you are almost "using" the girl for her opinion, meanwhile demonstrating value to her in some way. Direct openers ASSUME already that you are of higher value, and your bodylanguage, style, tonality and facial expressions must be congruent with that. You are also demonstrating your direct INTEREST in the girl. It is not purely sexual or purely platonic, it is both simultaneously. If you fail to show SIMULTANEOUS sexual and platonic interest, then she will perceive you as too horny or too gay.
IMO there are two ways to deliver opinion openers. One is to FAKE DISINTEREST - appear more concerned with getting her actual opinion than connecting with her. The other way is using the opinion opener AS A FORMALITY, merely providing a context in which two people can connect. So considering the latter is the current theoretically correct indirect technique, we see that in opening, the only difference is a technical one.
The more pronounced difference in direct vs. indirect game is the fact that YOU ARE PERSISTING MEANWHILE QUALIFYING FROM A POSITION OF POWER. You are taking the initiative to make things happen and push the seduction forward. If you expect her to respond positively to your lack of indifference, you must NOT RESPOND positively to her indifference! If you are playing direct game, and she attempts to manipulate your interest, play games or otherwise disrespect you, you CANNOT RESPOND POSITVELY TO THAT! That is supplication, and supplication is no part of good direct OR indirect game. In general also, I must add that direct and indirect styles aren't mutually exclusive and there is a lot of overlap. Good game is good game!
Direct: -Techniques which are congruent with interest. -Persisting with absolute certainty. -Qualifying from a position of power.
Indirect: -Techniques congruent with disinterest. -Letting her chase you. -Takeaways and general manipulation of attraction.
III. Beliefs / Mindsets / Frames As stated previously, self confidence and self respect are of utmost importance to direct game. Without these you will make the mistake of qualifying her from a position of weakness. You will tolerate her games, and persist despite her disrespecting you. Having weak beliefs is what causes people to make the mistakes of kissing ass, being overly complimentary and tolerating her ****, when they think they are "going direct". This is not at all what it's about. There is a balance.
The best mindset for using direct game is one of being alpha. This has been stated numerous times as the KEY to direct game. While I recognize it as an important element, it is not a complete methodology. Being alpha basically means taking what you want WITHOUT HESITATION. Think about when you are at home and you want food from the fridge. Do you hesitate even for a second if you're really hungry?? NO. You just walk over and take it. When a mall full of women becomes your refrigerator out of which to feast, you my friend, have got it.
I use a slightly different frame with girls whom I am deciding to use a direct model with. While the annoying little sister frame is great for indirect game, the "Sweet little daughter whom I care about and protect" frame is EXCELLENT for direct. You are powerful but gentle, compassionate and caring.
For example, when I first met Dimitri, I was shocked. The first thing I said to myself was: "There is no way this is Dimitri." Then I thought "There's NO WAY this guy actually gets laid." (No offense my man, just first impressions!
) My own success had come from a natural style heavily influenced by the predominant crews here on mASF, what I saw that day blew my mind. His style was unique and fresh. Completely spontaneous and completely his own, I could not correlate a single bit of his game with mainstream ASF game. He violated all the rules and had utter disregard for current models and trends. We would open a 3-set, and while I was demonstrating the power and consistency of opinion openers, Dimitri would come in and physically PICK UP ONE OF THE GIRLS AND SWING HER AROUND! And they LOVED IT! People walking by in the mall were shocked, but he DIDN'T care - no one mattered BUT HIM. That's what being alpha really is - doing exactly what you want with no hesitation and complete certainty it will work. So we spent most of the summer sarging for entire weekends. Starting friday evening, going straight until sunday evening - looking back it was probably not a very healthy thing to do, but I learned a lot from him, and hopefully he learned from me as well. Most of the time was spent in the malls and on the streets of Boston - it was pure, unadulterated daygame. As a result, I had to invent new models to even comprehend what Dimitri was doing. (My Balance attraction with value post is a good example, and actually is a recommended prerequisite to this post.) Over time, I have devised models for all kinds of things - models for natural styles, "indirect" styles, pimp game (of which my demonstration vs. verbalization post is a part of, along with making yourself physically scarce, being more interested in getting non-sexual things from her (See Dimitri's supply and demand post for more on this), etc..), an assortment of different types of approaching styles, etc... but all that stuff is content for another post!
So here, without further ado, is a crash course for the style of pickup I prefer most:
DIRECT GAME
I. Who can use direct game? Why use direct game? Direct game is a game based on value and self respect. It is based on honesty and disregard for societal constructs. It is completely absent of any takeaways intended to manipulate interest, direct invalidation, and disrespect. I would suggest that direct game can be used by anyone ESPECIALLY newbie's because of it's simplicity, efficiency and congruence with the newbie's intentions. People also like direct game because it allows them to persist confidently without pretending to be hard-to-get.
It is very effective on girls who have high moral standards and have not yet fallen into the party chick trap. Usually the girls are passionate about something in their life, and had maybe one or two long term relationships. It tends to be less effective on girls who have been emotionally damaged by countless other players who have desensitized them to value based attraction by repeated cycles of attention and indifference. They have already been exposed to intense and crippling physical attraction, and despite the fact that they know it's bad for them, they cannot resist. There are also a lot of girls who have experienced this, but have decided that they do not want it anymore, and this method will work especially well with them.
On a side note, direct game is a GREAT FRAME for creating relationships. It can also set a good foundation for transitioning to indirect game or pimp-style game post conversion. Conversely if you start with indirect or pimp-style game it is near impossible to transition back to direct.
II. Indirect Vs. Direct Game The main differences between indirect and direct game are TECHNICAL ones. That is why direct is just as effective, but in many ways MORE efficient than indirect game. One difference is the frame of the opener. Early theories supporting the effectiveness of opinion openers stated that you are almost "using" the girl for her opinion, meanwhile demonstrating value to her in some way. Direct openers ASSUME already that you are of higher value, and your bodylanguage, style, tonality and facial expressions must be congruent with that. You are also demonstrating your direct INTEREST in the girl. It is not purely sexual or purely platonic, it is both simultaneously. If you fail to show SIMULTANEOUS sexual and platonic interest, then she will perceive you as too horny or too gay.
IMO there are two ways to deliver opinion openers. One is to FAKE DISINTEREST - appear more concerned with getting her actual opinion than connecting with her. The other way is using the opinion opener AS A FORMALITY, merely providing a context in which two people can connect. So considering the latter is the current theoretically correct indirect technique, we see that in opening, the only difference is a technical one.
The more pronounced difference in direct vs. indirect game is the fact that YOU ARE PERSISTING MEANWHILE QUALIFYING FROM A POSITION OF POWER. You are taking the initiative to make things happen and push the seduction forward. If you expect her to respond positively to your lack of indifference, you must NOT RESPOND positively to her indifference! If you are playing direct game, and she attempts to manipulate your interest, play games or otherwise disrespect you, you CANNOT RESPOND POSITVELY TO THAT! That is supplication, and supplication is no part of good direct OR indirect game. In general also, I must add that direct and indirect styles aren't mutually exclusive and there is a lot of overlap. Good game is good game!
Direct: -Techniques which are congruent with interest. -Persisting with absolute certainty. -Qualifying from a position of power.
Indirect: -Techniques congruent with disinterest. -Letting her chase you. -Takeaways and general manipulation of attraction.
III. Beliefs / Mindsets / Frames As stated previously, self confidence and self respect are of utmost importance to direct game. Without these you will make the mistake of qualifying her from a position of weakness. You will tolerate her games, and persist despite her disrespecting you. Having weak beliefs is what causes people to make the mistakes of kissing ass, being overly complimentary and tolerating her ****, when they think they are "going direct". This is not at all what it's about. There is a balance.
The best mindset for using direct game is one of being alpha. This has been stated numerous times as the KEY to direct game. While I recognize it as an important element, it is not a complete methodology. Being alpha basically means taking what you want WITHOUT HESITATION. Think about when you are at home and you want food from the fridge. Do you hesitate even for a second if you're really hungry?? NO. You just walk over and take it. When a mall full of women becomes your refrigerator out of which to feast, you my friend, have got it.
I use a slightly different frame with girls whom I am deciding to use a direct model with. While the annoying little sister frame is great for indirect game, the "Sweet little daughter whom I care about and protect" frame is EXCELLENT for direct. You are powerful but gentle, compassionate and caring.
