A collection of the fun and the weird

[Alek]

Hey guys, I was hoping to pull up a compilation here of the different tasks and missions one can do to overcome the "what will people think of me" syndrome.

Here's a few example ones I'm aware of:

- Going to a gas station and asking for rocket fuel
- Hi i'm manny the martian, what your favorite flavor of bowling ball?
- The rasputin experiment (going unshaved and unbathed for 2 weeks, and slapping a strap-on-dildo to your forehead)
- Jeffries' telling girls that their shoelaces are untied (even if they have none)
- RDM: Going up to girls and telling them that you are afraid of rejections, and asking them to give you their worst, *****y cold rejection...

:crazy: :crazy: :crackup:

I'm aware that jeffries had like a collection of these, and so did quite a few people thru the ages. C'mon people share yours

 

[theSpeculator]

If you stop asking/doing stupid things then you wouldn't need to worry about the "what will people think of me" syndrome.

 

[Alek]

If you stop asking/doing stupid things then you wouldn't need to worry about the "what will people think of me" syndrome.

Wow you're so cool I bet your positivity attracts alot of great cool guys and girls in your life :cheer: :cheer:

Actually i'm compiling this stuff coz i'm doing a project for shy guys to be able to do programs like demonic confidence or the DJ bootcamp. By finding ways of eliminating the breaks towards doing some of the missions (like complimenting a girl who's in a group, or who's with a boyfriend)... and other more direct stuff. Thing is there's alot of guys who cant do the direct jump to these harder missions. They need some intermediary steps.

I've succefully managed to a help 2 guys with some of these missions by inventing my own excercises. Was hoping people here could share more.

P.S.

Anyone who has knowledge of the Jeffries (etc...) experiments please share Thank you

 

[Alek]

I found one very cool one (courtesy of Shezzler)

approach a girl with a bf - obviously just wait until hes gone to buy ice cream or something

Approach her and start a convo - when her bf comes back dont look at him but say to her - Ok gimme your number and ill call you - Use MAVEC here big time. hehehe - Or implement some patterns - ie "Boyfriend Destroyer"

 

[Gubby]

Hi, I would just like to say that.

Heyy, you look exactly like.

 

[Dark Haired Alpha]

I've succefully managed to a help 2 guys with some of these missions

... by forcing them to go unshaved and unbathed for two weeks and slapping a strap-on dildo to their foreheads? :crackup:

BTW Speculator is right - if you don't care what the others think of you, but they think you are a jackass, it's not a good thing. This just makes you an a$$hole, not a "dj" or "alpha"

 

[Dark Haired Alpha]

I found one very cool one (courtesy of Shezzler)

approach a girl with a bf - obviously just wait until hes gone to buy ice cream or something

Approach her and start a convo - when her bf comes back dont look at him but say to her - Ok gimme your number and ill call you - Use MAVEC here big time. hehehe - Or implement some patterns - ie "Boyfriend Destroyer"

GREAT idea if you don't mind being plugged here and there...

 

[ethnomethodologist]

Hey Alek, how do you get guys excited enough to join in these experiments. If they are already brave enough to do "crazy stunts" like these, than I don't think your REALLY helping them.

 

[Cruise]

Here's a mission for ya...

Get them to talk **** on the internet at random people. Desensitize them to real world interactions.

Then have them go out to the mall and talk **** at random strangers like they just picked them off in a game of Online Ghost Recon.

or

Take them to a local watering hole. Have them buy at LEAST $20 worth of liquor. DRINK. Give it about 15-30 minutes. When they're drunk as all be, push them out of the pub in broad daylight, strip them down to their bare briefs, and run away with their clothing. They'll be too drunk to really know what's happening.
Note: If they DO know what's happening, you ****ed up.
Anyways, come back with a camcorder, and record them walking around in broad daylight with only their boxers/briefs on. Pay special recording to the responses of strangers walking by. Note how they just see it and get awed, but also they just pass by with an expression of, "**** happens".
Before they wake up from their drunken stupor, put the recording in the VCR, and play it by the time they wake up. When they wake up and see how nobody really gave a flying **** about them to begin with, that should be enough of a mind **** to get them to really give two ****s about their egos anyways.














(Note: That ****'s not a mission, it's just a random thought... BECAUSE I DON'T GIVE A ****S.)

 

[Alek]

Through very progressive and subtle progressive conditioning I managed to get a few guys from not even ever being able to say hi to a stranger girl, to being able of going up to 10s and telling them "you look absolutely stunning"...

But that's only step 5 out of 21 steps... and they ****ed up step 5 (direct compliments), because they can't do enough compliments in the alloted time.. Coz they hit A HARD OBSTACLE... I only managed to get them to be able to do that if the girl is solo, and there is no-one in hearing distance. If they are with girlfriends or some other people are withing hearing range... they can't do a compliment... they can't do it to a second girl if the first is close enough behind to see them interacting with a second one... Since there's not enough 10s walking around solo, when no-one is in hearing distance... they barely manage 5-6 of these (the mission has 30 in roughly 30 minutes). I identified about 5-6 obstacles and they all relate back to caring what others think.

Fearing the girl's response (i.e. possible rejection) is only half the problem, the much more perssistent half is what OTHER people around you think. And i'm conditioning them to not give away power to perfect strangers.

Not only do people around you not care about you approaching a woman, if ANYTHING they are jealous they don't have the balls to do it. If you can remove giving away power to complete strangers, you're half way there.

The 5-8 obstacles i've identified in people doing confidence/bootcamp type missions are the following (all related to caring what others think):

THE BRAKES:

- Asking (for directions, or saying hi, or whatever the mission is) one person while the previous one they approached is still near
- Fear of asking the same person twice (so they end up wasting valuable time wondering "is this he person I asked before?")... so they miss the opportunity
- Not being able to ask one person because they're wasting time identifying all the people around them to see if one of them is perhaps a person they had asked before on another mission (what a way to waste brain power)
- Not being able to ask one girl if she's in a group of people (coz they're busy thinking "what will the other girls think because I chose her, and I didn't have to choose her, and then they'll think i'm hitting on her, and they'll think this and that and blah blah"
- Not asking a girl if she's walking too fast (she'll think i'm weird because I chose to stop her, and I could have chosen someone else)
- Not asking a girl because she looks means/pissed-off/*****y, yet is dressed to the nines (coz everyone around me will think i'm hitting on her when I say hi/pay compliment/ask the time/whatever the mission asks)

 

[Alek]

Cruise... I know you're post was in the spirit of a joke, but it gave me hella good ideas Thanks man! :flowers:

The DJ bootcamp and other bootcamps and demonic confidence programs are killer, i ain't about to create new ones. My goal is to fix the problem where people can't FINISH these programs. I'm working on adding the missing pieces, the crutches and intermediarry steps.

Ethnometodologist... they weren't always able to do these things. I got them to that point thru gradual conditioning... they couldn't even say HI to a girl they didn't know. See now that they are at a certain level (level 4)... they are unable to go directly to level 5 (giving 30 attractive women, one after the other direct compliments)... too big a jump. So I have to remove a brake that gets in the way CARING what random nobodies on the street think Now they're at the point where they can do one of these weirded things... just ONCE... it'll take a lot of will power, but once they do it ONCE, they do it two-three more times... and they can get back to level 5

 

[johnmich]

Why are people criticizing this, i get it. If they walk the streets looking like cu.nts, then when they make a tit of themselves when they are attempting to woo the ladies, then they wont be bothered about what other people around them think. Because they will be able to shrug it off and be used to it because of these exercises.

 

[Tomatoes]

I dont see how it would work to be honest....I cant see psychological reasons to why it would work.

Ok when you dress up looking like a complete idiot and go out people will see you as a complete idiot and you will accept that (as its true). However people will still have the same fear they always had of looking silly infront a girl after rejection. Why? Because they are them again. They are not roll playing in some silly game. They are out putting there emotions on the line. Its also about social reputation.

This would not help as its not focusing on the same fear. Its like jumping out a plane to get over your fear of spiders.

I know people who can negotiate deals for 1000's of £££ but they are scared of going up to a girl and talking to them....


The only eway to get over any fear is to confront it.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Door-to-door sales, or even other sales positions, will help anyone learn to deal with rejection. The jobs are easy to get, because they are misery for most people.

Here's an idea to add to your list. Have your people go "sell" a product. Stand near a college campus and try to convince every girl that walks by that you can get her a good deal on Cosmo magazine. 95% of them will walk away. *Don't* actually take any money from anyone if they are interested - that would be fraud. Tease her for being gullible or whatever. But this exercise at least does not offend random strangers too much. You can also target HBs.

Another variation - invent an organization and try to get her to sign your petition. "Hi! I'm from the International Committee to Ban Myspace. Will you sign our petition to rid the world of Myspace?"

 

[Alek]

Tomatoes: Please don't theorize what should or shouldn't or could or couldn't work. The only judge is the real world.

I'm going out there and testing this stuff out on real-life shy guys and giving them the results they want. I got two guys who couldn't say hi to a neighbour a week ago, now going out and telling drop-dead beaties that they find them attractive.

Ok... Anyone have any suggestions on tackling the brakes identified?

THE BRAKES:

- Asking (for directions, or saying hi, or whatever the mission is) one person while the previous one they approached is still near
- Fear of asking the same person twice (so they end up wasting valuable time wondering "is this he person I asked before?")... so they miss the opportunity
- Not being able to ask one person because they're wasting time identifying all the people around them to see if one of them is perhaps a person they had asked before on another mission (what a way to waste brain power)
- Not being able to ask one girl if she's in a group of people (coz they're busy thinking "what will the other girls think because I chose her, and I didn't have to choose her, and then they'll think i'm hitting on her, and they'll think this and that and blah blah"
- Not asking a girl if she's walking too fast (she'll think i'm weird because I chose to stop her, and I could have chosen someone else)
- Not asking a girl because she looks means/pissed-off/*****y, yet is dressed to the nines (coz everyone around me will think i'm hitting on her when I say hi/pay compliment/ask the time/whatever the mission asks)

BibleBelt: Thanks man. That's a KILLER idea. I'm scribbling down notes excited! Thanks again, appreciate it

 

[diplomatic_lies]

The rasputin experiment (going unshaved and unbathed for 2 weeks, and slapping a strap-on-dildo to your forehead)

Did that once. Met a girl. She goes, "All that blood rushing to your head, or are you just happy to see me?"