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Ok cool. In 7th grade it may work but you have to start using the big boy potty at some point.
Girls who dont like to kiss are 59+ or dead. Or suffer from
Dude you asked a girl if she liked to kiss. 7th grade is over its time to use the big boy potty.
2 things

1. Every one isn't crazy into kissing, it's a legit question no matter how old you are

2. You're thinking way too logically about it. The questions are a set up, most women are stupid and simple, so often times simplicity, or "7th grade level" comprehension, is all that's needed to get them talking sexually
 

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2 things

1. Every one isn't crazy into kissing, it's a legit question no matter how old you are

2. You're thinking way too logically about it. The questions are a set up, most women are stupid and simple, so often times simplicity, or "7th grade level" comprehension, is all that's needed to get them talking sexually
i see both points it’s corny but I see where it could go.

“Do you like to kiss?”

Her most likely response: “depends on the guy”

“What other ways do you like to show affection?”

See how I just transitioned that to sex, subtlety?
 

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i see both points it’s corny but I see where it could go.

“Do you like to kiss?”

Her most likely response: “depends on the guy”

“What other ways do you like to show affection”

See how I just transitioned that to sex?
I do it with chicks that I KNOW are feeling me. So they won't say depends on the guy. That's the key
 

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Why not find out when she is trying to kiss you? Just asking
Asking for a friend....
If they don't live around the corner, then I want to get them talking sexually before I commit to traveling to see them. It's just a way to set the tone so I don't waste time. I don't do do this with every chick
 

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Here’s the thing. I don’t ever, and I mean EVER spend 130 on a first date. Hell, even a 3rd or 4th date. It’s not because I can’t, it’s not because I’m unwilling...it’s because I don’t know if I like HER enough to do that type of investment. That’s the winning mentality. SHE has to prove to ME that she is worth any further investment beyond what is minimally acceptable. I don’t care if she’s the most high class girl on the planet, if she can’t kick it with me at the local bar, have a drink, people watch or play darts or something, gtfo.

I’ll do the baseball game with my boys, I’ll do dinner with my friends. No chick is deserving of that money on a first, second, or third date. Hell, it could take months to get there. And being from a big city is no excuse. There are plenty of things you can do for under $40.00.

and for the record, I have a high close rate.
 

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i see both points it’s corny but I see where it could go.

“Do you like to kiss?”

Her most likely response: “depends on the guy”

“What other ways do you like to show affection?”

See how I just transitioned that to sex, subtlety?
Also, even if she says depending on the guy. I know it's just a sh1it test. She's still saying yes she likes to kiss

I'm also asking this because I personally love super affectionate women, they are easy to bed. So it's a way to get sexual talk going, and it's also a qualifier. I dont want to be around a woman who answers no
 

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Also you guys are her arguing semantics. If a girl is into you enough it won’t matter what you say. You could say the earth is turpentine toothpaste and she’d be like “yea I totally get what you mean lol let’s hang out.” I’d never say something like “do you like to kiss” but it works if she’s attracted and available. It comes down to those factors. Do you make her tingle and is the opportunity right for her? Tell her hitler is your idol and she’d still sleep with you.

women will change religions for men. They will trust unworthy men with their lives. They will reject feminism. They will do ANYTHING for the right man.
 

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Here’s the thing. I don’t ever, and I mean EVER spend 130 on a first date. Hell, even a 3rd or 4th date. It’s not because I can’t, it’s not because I’m unwilling...it’s because I don’t know if I like HER enough to do that type of investment. That’s the winning mentality. SHE has to prove to ME that she is worth any further investment beyond what is minimally acceptable. I don’t care if she’s the most high class girl on the planet, if she can’t kick it with me at the local bar, have a drink, people watch or play darts or something, gtfo.

I’ll do the baseball game with my boys, I’ll do dinner with my friends. No chick is deserving of that money on a first, second, or third date. Hell, it could take months to get there. And being from a big city is no excuse. There are plenty of things you can do for under $40.00.

and for the record, I have a high close rate.
Sup bro,
So I spend that type of doe on a date because I HAVE to have fun. It’s not for her. I’m 30 years old and been at this for years. This account was created in 2009. I can not keep going on the same boring date over and over again. Im not a big drinker. Bars aren’t fun. I’ve probably been on 500 dates, I don’t want to go to the bar 500 times.
I stated above you can get the same result for cheaper, if you want but I just enjoy having a good time. Baseball game isn’t always the first date it was just an example of something fun and different.
 

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Also you guys are her arguing semantics. If a girl is into you enough it won’t matter what you say. You could say the earth is turpentine toothpaste and she’d be like “yea I totally get what you mean lol let’s hang out.” I’d never say something like “do you like to kiss” but it works if she’s attracted and available. It comes down to those factors. Do you make her tingle and is the opportunity right for her? Tell her hitler is your idol and she’d still sleep with you.

women will change religions for men. They will trust unworthy men with their lives. They will reject feminism. They will do ANYTHING for the right man.
They are so lost in the words, when the main factor is the intention of the words, which is to weed out low interest
 

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Sup bro,
So I spend that type of doe on a date because I HAVE to have fun. It’s not for her. I’m 30 years old and been at this for years. This account was created in 2009. I can not keep going on the same boring date over and over again. Im not a big drinker. Bars aren’t fun. I’ve probably been on 500 dates, I don’t want to go to the bar 500 times.
I stated above you can get the same result for cheaper, if you want but I just enjoy having a good time. Baseball game isn’t always the first date it was just an example of something fun and different.
Not drinking I get. Unfortunately it is a vice of mine, and it’s a typical thing I do. I don’t want to out where you live, but the baseball team I’m sure you go to see isn’t any more exciting than the local pub on karaoke night. Unless you head about an hour south, then you can see some real baseball!

anyway, I think what we need to dissect here is why you feel the need to do a 4 hour, $130.00 date. What if you don’t like her? What if she’s a total spaz? Why not vet for at least a few dates, especially if the outcome of sex is not influenced by the investment you make. That’s the number 1 thing I’ve learned from dating, and I think you know it too. Especially if you’ve been on 500 dates which I hope would equate to at least 100 lays. The outcome of the date is not dependent on your investment, it’s dependent on two factors: 1. Her attraction and 2. Her availability.

some of my beat dates ever have been just going for a walk, people watching, or visiting the local animal shelter (try it, girls love the emotion of it). As long as you can make any situation flirty and sexual, you don’t need to spend a dime.

I get doing what you want to do and having fun. and it’s good youve got that money to do so...but consider saving it for a later date when she has qualified to YOU.
 

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I'm not dissing you SP. I think generally you are correct. And that's how I've played it for years. Because I physically escalate early on fzone is never going to happen.

But there's more than one way to skin the cat or peel the panties. Cola has managed to sexualize the covo early on so I think that is worth discussing. one of the purposes of becoming expert is so you can push the boundaries and go past the conventional wisdom.

Now the last part of the formula for life is absorb what is specifically useful. Cola s method may not work in your environment or for your style. Deciding that and developing your own style is the work every man has to do.

Now like I said I've never done it so I have no idea on the correlation between sexting and sluttiness.

I m in a good ltr now so I m looking at this thread as a thought experiment.

I do know that giving up the poon early doesn't necessarily equal huge slvt. I ve boned several long term GFs on second date and they were good women who I later on learned had been celibate for years. Skill does make a difference.
 
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Not drinking I get. Unfortunately it is a vice of mine, and it’s a typical thing I do. I don’t want to out where you live, but the baseball team I’m sure you go to see isn’t any more exciting than the local pub on karaoke night. Unless you head about an hour south, then you can see some real baseball!

anyway, I think what we need to dissect here is why you feel the need to do a 4 hour, $130.00 date. What if you don’t like her? What if she’s a total spaz? Why not vet for at least a few dates, especially if the outcome of sex is not influenced by the investment you make. That’s the number 1 thing I’ve learned from dating, and I think you know it too. Especially if you’ve been on 500 dates which I hope would equate to at least 100 lays. The outcome of the date is not dependent on your investment, it’s dependent on two factors: 1. Her attraction and 2. Her availability.

some of my beat dates ever have been just going for a walk, people watching, or visiting the local animal shelter (try it, girls love the emotion of it). As long as you can make any situation flirty and sexual, you don’t need to spend a dime.

I get doing what you want to do and having fun. and it’s good youve got that money to do so...but consider saving it for a later date when she has qualified to YOU.
I get what you’re saying but bro it’s like if me and you wanted to hang out we could go to a bar and have cheap drinks but I may want to hang with my bro and go to a baseball game. So I would treat you to a baseball game because I want to see baseball and hang with my bro at the same time. It’s the same mindset for the dating.

I wanted to go to sixflags today but I have a date scheduled so I guess she is coming too. But if she doesnt come I’d probably go to six flags anyway. Does that make sense? I might be in the mood to go to hightopps where I used to do security and eat and drink for free. Then the date costs nothing. It’s not even really about the money.

Also since you know my location, we should link wyd Saturday?
 
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I respect that as well. What your doing is obviously working. My counter is about quality. That is all. If shes sexting you she's sexting others. High probability. Some dudes like that.
Bro stop acting all high and mighty over a got damn chicken salad lmao. For all you know she took it up the ass before she brought it over
 

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