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styleman

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MacAvoy said:
Send her a note, on it write "Check yes or no"
Would it be verging on ridiculous if, if she ticked no, I gave her another blank one, and repeated the process untill she ticked yes?
 

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this isnt 2nd grade. follow these 2 simple steps, and she might end up yours.

Step 1: Grab balls
Step 2: Be a man and go for it
 

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If you wont ask her out then we cant do anything. At least if you do you will know one way or another. Stop being a wuss and do it!
 

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CrunchyNut said:
If you wont ask her out then we cant do anything. At least if you do you will know one way or another. Stop being a wuss and do it!
Like I said I've done it before, and failed. I also hint at it all the time to her, and I tend to get positive reactions.
If its worth anything, she tells her friends 'he annoys me sometimes"
We are pretty close, so asking her out will be very weird given that we are so close, its like taking 3 steps back.
 

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If you won't ask her out because it would look like "3 steps back" (it looks like 3 steps forward to me at least, but that's me), then try to build up a situation in which you can kiss her. If she doesn't try to evade like a crazy maniac, it is done.

Even if she tries to evade a little at first, push it a little more, she'll eventually fall to it, specially if you're a good kisser. But don't overpush or maybe she'll get scared, although that's less possible if you built up the situation properly (so your kiss looks natural and not surprising and out of place).


In any case, giving your state of mind and insecurity and big big fear of rejection because she rejected you 3 (3!!!!!!) years ago, I think it's a waste of time to counsel you, because there's a 90% chance that you won't do anything finally and you'll stay at this same state for some more years while that girl gets banged by others.
 

Don't always be the one putting yourself out for her. Don't always be the one putting all the effort and work into the relationship. Let her, and expect her, to treat you as well as you treat her, and to improve the quality of your life.

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styleman

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Ray said:
If you won't ask her out because it would look like "3 steps back" (it looks like 3 steps forward to me at least, but that's me), then try to build up a situation in which you can kiss her. If she doesn't try to evade like a crazy maniac, it is done.

Even if she tries to evade a little at first, push it a little more, she'll eventually fall to it, specially if you're a good kisser. But don't overpush or maybe she'll get scared, although that's less possible if you built up the situation properly (so your kiss looks natural and not surprising and out of place).


In any case, giving your state of mind and insecurity and big big fear of rejection because she rejected you 3 (3!!!!!!) years ago, I think it's a waste of time to counsel you, because there's a 90% chance that you won't do anything finally and you'll stay at this same state for some more years while that girl gets banged by others.
I'm willing to listen, and with the exception of this girl; I'm far from an insecure personality, although I will admit with this girl I am.
We were saying goodbye to each other the other day, and I was on the top of the pavement (sidewalk) and she was below (getting into a cab) she kissed my cheek, and I slipped down (genuinly an accident), so she ended up kissing my neck, she says "Why did you just make me kiss your neck? You're drunk... (playfully)" Perhaps this gives some indication as to whether she would accept the kiss.
 
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