35 and a virgin, is it best to give up?

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Gamisch

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Where did I say he has to commit crimes? He has to commit to not being a cuck and following BS advice by standing in one place. He has to commit to not taking the creeper route and hitting the p4p. Next time you're down at the brothel, take a look around, the other guys there? They couldn't hack it either. Y'all should live together in a loser commune farming soy and braiding man buns.

You'd rather keep it civilized because you can't compete, you already told him that. I'm surprised you haven't smashed that report button yet. Now you're trying to cut him down because you know that you're not willing to do what's necessary either. He's complaining because the majority of advice given to him doesn't work... no sh1t, It's coming from dumpster divers and value villagers.
Damn you're annoying .Still zero advice for the OP.

We all know married life = frustration, as you prove over and over again. Your little tantrum doesn't impress me at all by the way . And look, our married cuffed man already talks about the report button....haha . Damn that's pathetic. "He has to not,he has to not ".

Now that you basically vented out all your frustration about the one of the biggest industries,namely the sex industry, its time you put your money where your mouth is(no pun intended) and start giving some solid advice, instead of gaslighting the topic by saying what OP should NOT do, tell us what he SHOULD do.

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Damn you're annoying .Still zero advice for the OP.

We all know married life = frustration, as you prove over and over again. Your little tantrum doesn't impress me at all by the way . And look, our married cuffed man already talks about the report button....haha . Damn that's pathetic. "He has to not,he has to not ".

Now that you basically vented out all your frustration about the one of the biggest industries,namely the sex industry, its time you put your money where your mouth is(no pun intended) and start giving some solid advice, instead of gaslighting the topic by saying what OP should NOT do, tell us what he SHOULD do.

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My advice is in the way I live my life, actions speak louder than words. I'm not surprised I have to point this out to you though. My girl was brand new when I got her, howbout yours?

'We all know' - all the guys just like you.

This man does not want to pay for someone to have to pay attention to him. Do you think wh0res respect their johns? He doesn't want empty sex, he's tired of losing and wants to dominate the game. You obviously don't know how. The sex industry is the biggest industry because there are alot of loser men out there that have to turn to it. He wants a girl to willingly offer it to him. The Op isn't satisfied making his 1st, someone else's sloppy seconds.

How does that taste btw? A little salty? ;)
 
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My advice is in the way I live my life, actions speak louder than words. I'm not surprised I have to point this out to you though. My girl was brand new when I got her, howbout yours?

'We all know' - all the guys just like you.

This man does not want to pay for someone to have to pay attention to him. Do you think wh0res respect their johns? He doesn't want empty sex, he's tired of losing and wants to dominate the game. You obviously don't know how. The sex industry is the biggest industry because there are alot of loser men out there that have to turn to it. He wants a girl to willingly offer it to him. The Op isn't satisfied making his 1st, someone else's sloppy seconds.

How does that taste btw?
Your awesome life..yeah we all know that our infamous member who joined end of September ( 3 weeks ago) named Alice in wonderland is this AMAZING thuggish man...

I always wonder how a happily married man even finds a niche website like this...oh wait:

- you conveniently disabled the ability to check your profile
-,already talked about snitching and reporting.
- don't provide an alternative solution


I kinda sense you've had many profiles before and you have some animosity towards me... but oke lets summarize YOUR solutions so far to help out a 35 y.o virgin

- " be like me"..(uhm...oke?)
- engage in criminal activities to "get an edge"
- stop losing
-find a virgin girl ( what 99% of men want )
-dont be a cuck
- don't take the creeper route
-dont work and " stare at 4 walls"
(The best advice)-get a baggy old jeans, a hoodie, k-mart brand sneakers, no muscles and with a minimum wage job.
- be ugly, deformed and an a$$hole

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That rapper named Fabulous had a song called "breath" with a line saying "you know what YOU RIGHT".

OP @Anom my advice was to simply get your d1ck sucked for once ,fast, nice and easy, but I'll refrain from commenting now.

You're best bet is to listen to our newest thunderstorm named Alice(...). I think he tries to say that you should go get a wife in another country. Kinda makes sense...good luck and let us know if it worked out for ya.
 
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But i get the feeling you allready know everything, while your attention is fixed on hookers and your facial hair.... which are the least of your problems right now.
Oh my god... I love how every reply has to be as cold as possible.

Fags yes..... maybe you are a social justice troll? Your picture would fit that character.
Okay, now that's just being a douche. ****ing stop. We're back to that word-twisting sh!t. Seriously, there was no reason for that.

You want people to listen to you guys and not doubt you because you're pros, perfectly fine. You guys say "you need a more humble approach", perfectly fine. But if people just have some god damn questions about things because they simply want to understand things, then allllllll of a sudden it morphs into "duuuuuude you're obsessing on this". Isn't that how a forum works, discussing things?

You talked me into getting a hooker, I say yes to it, then it's "uuuuggghhh now you know everything". Maybe some of the replies are like this because people are so used to posting like that, maybe there's some mob mentality. Before anyone brings this up, no, I'm not looking for some forum that babies you, because that defeats the purpose, but when someone just wants to explore something it becomes a federal ****ing case.
 
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OP you've painted a pretty clear picture of whom you are after seeing the way you interact, analyzing the way you write/reply and seeing your physical appearance.

Yes, it is best for you to give up.

If you want to experience what a cvnt feels like, the warmth of a female body next to yours and the smells, moans, energy etc. that comes with the experience, you should fk an escort when you have the hankering and if you can afford it.

Always keep in mind: Life is not fair. It never was, it never will be. Nothing is owed to you, even if you've done exactly what you should have done to achieve a goal.
 

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OP you've painted a pretty clear picture of whom you are after seeing the way you interact, analyzing the way you write/reply and seeing your physical appearance.
No, this is just one-sided bullsh!t. I agreed to everything you guys have said, but when I ask about something because I don't know, you guys switch the channel over to "dude you're pestering people about this..." I explain something and "it's trolling." One of the rules of this forum is "respect each other". I simply say, "I'm surprised the word fag is here." that's it, and then this dude just goes "Oh btw you're a troll and you look like a fag." What the fvck? Yeah, you comment on how you don't like my replies, but no one says anything about ThisIsSparta's post. Hmmmmmmm.

If you want to experience what a cvnt feels like, the warmth of a female body next to yours and the smells, moans, energy etc. that comes with the experience, you should fk an escort when you have the hankering and if you can afford it.
And I agreed to this, what's the issue? The advice was the following: gets jobs (have them), get better job and make more money (that's going to happen, like I said before), get hooker to get first time out of the way, work out, cut hair, get better glasses (on the way). Is this wrong? Some of that won't happen overnight.

Edit: Also I've been reading a lot of other threads, and articles. There are a few contradictions, which is why I ask the things I ask.
 

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get hooker to get first time out of the way,
Exactly, I should have been clearer in my advise, I wasn't suggesting you create a lifestyle around hookers, more to play catchup as they are professional and you will learn quicker without the embarrassment that can come with doing it in the wild.

You came with a specific issue, this solves it. If you had asked how to get the love of your life I would have given different advice. If you had asked how to get a girlfriend I would have given different advice. "35 and a virgin, is it best to give up?" sets the tone of the conversation and the advice I gave follows this.
 

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No? I've been working out on and off for years, but haven't reached that perfect toned body I've been going for. There was no... "advice" going on here around 2008. I'm seeing a lot of people that joined in 2014, 2018, 2023, etc. so you guys didn't have to see how awful the place was. It was like the place was run by know-it-all teenagers that were constantly twitching in rage, barely knew how to type, and acted like they ran the place. No professionalism, no carefully walking through steps. Just... douchiness. It was enough to make anyone go "Ugh, nevermind. I'll go to literally any other forum that isn't this one." Granted, I still read the articles attached to this forum, which were informative, but avoided the forum like the plague.
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Oh man, this reminds me of Newgrounds back in the day. Probably the source of some of my problems, lol.
 

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Exactly, I should have been clearer in my advise, I wasn't suggesting you create a lifestyle around hookers, more to play catchup as they are professional and you will learn quicker without the embarrassment that can come with doing it in the wild.

You came with a specific issue, this solves it. If you had asked how to get the love of your life I would have given different advice. If you had asked how to get a girlfriend I would have given different advice. "35 and a virgin, is it best to give up?" sets the tone of the conversation and the advice I gave follows this.
Okay then, so let's say I do that Bunny Ranch thing right just now, and come back a few days. I went a few rounds, I'm not a virgin anymore, and my "technique" was slightly better than I thought. Not great, but it's something. What is step 2? I just continue working out?

I didn't want my life to be about hookers either, I just wanted to inquire about prices and going a few rounds.

Oh man, this reminds me of Newgrounds back in the day. Probably the source of some of my problems, lol.
Hoooooooooly hell that place has an awful community, at least in the early-to-mid 2000s. Is that place still that bad?
 

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Honestly I wonder how bad OP ****ed up to still be a virgin at 35. Even I lost my v card before I was 30, and I'm a sperg.
 

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And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Hoooooooooly hell that place has an awful community, at least in the early-to-mid 2000s. Is that place still that bad?
No, unfortunately they got rid of their general discussion forum. So many good memories... Then I realize I am lamenting the loss of an internet forum for teenagers.
 

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Honestly I wonder how bad OP ****ed up to still be a virgin at 35. Even I lost my v card before I was 30, and I'm a sperg.
I've been with girls and touched them, but it's not something I bring up often because these were usually the wrong girls. I've had girlfriends, but they didn't really go anywhere. Then life happens and things take up your time. I'm not saying that as an excuse, it just happens to people.

It was the right girls that were difficult to get - the ones that went after my friends usually, who weren't that much better to be honest.

No, unfortunately they got rid of their general discussion forum. So many good memories... Then I realize I am lamenting the loss of an internet forum for teenagers.
It's still there. It's under the "community" link on the front page.
 

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Your awesome life..yeah we all know that our infamous member who joined end of September ( 3 weeks ago) named Alice in wonderland is this AMAZING thuggish man...

I always wonder how a happily married man even finds a niche website like this...oh wait:

- you conveniently disabled the ability to check your profile
-,already talked about snitching and reporting.
- don't provide an alternative solution


I kinda sense you've had many profiles before and you have some animosity towards me... but oke lets summarize YOUR solutions so far to help out a 35 y.o virgin

- " be like me"..(uhm...oke?)
- engage in criminal activities to "get an edge"
- stop losing
-find a virgin girl ( what 99% of men want )
-dont be a cuck
- don't take the creeper route
-dont work and " stare at 4 walls"
(The best advice)-get a baggy old jeans, a hoodie, k-mart brand sneakers, no muscles and with a minimum wage job.
- be ugly, deformed and an a$$hole

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That rapper named Fabulous had a song called "breath" with a line saying "you know what YOU RIGHT".

OP @Anom my advice was to simply get your d1ck sucked for once ,fast, nice and easy, but I'll refrain from commenting now.

You're best bet is to listen to our newest thunderstorm named Alice(...). I think he tries to say that you should go get a wife in another country. Kinda makes sense...good luck and let us know if it worked out for ya.
Lol, fvck... from Ops replies, you won.

Ok well lets discuss pros then.

Vietnamese:

Thailand: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/eHxVvqzEtmc (oh man... I lol'd)

Mexico:

If you're gonna use them, you might as well go for quality and price in a place where you're not going to go to JAIL.

Y'all are still losers. I question why you're on a website about picking up women at all. You should go join Swoop The World.

I know a guy in Guadalajara and his whole business is offering 'medical related' tourism. ;)
 
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Your awesome life..yeah we all know that our infamous member who joined end of September ( 3 weeks ago) named Alice in wonderland is this AMAZING thuggish man...

I always wonder how a happily married man even finds a niche website like this...oh wait:

- you conveniently disabled the ability to check your profile
-,already talked about snitching and reporting.
- don't provide an alternative solution


I kinda sense you've had many profiles before and you have some animosity towards me... but oke lets summarize YOUR solutions so far to help out a 35 y.o virgin

- " be like me"..(uhm...oke?)
- engage in criminal activities to "get an edge"
- stop losing
-find a virgin girl ( what 99% of men want )
-dont be a cuck
- don't take the creeper route
-dont work and " stare at 4 walls"
(The best advice)-get a baggy old jeans, a hoodie, k-mart brand sneakers, no muscles and with a minimum wage job.
- be ugly, deformed and an a$$hole

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That rapper named Fabulous had a song called "breath" with a line saying "you know what YOU RIGHT".

OP @Anom my advice was to simply get your d1ck sucked for once ,fast, nice and easy, but I'll refrain from commenting now.

You're best bet is to listen to our newest thunderstorm named Alice(...). I think he tries to say that you should go get a wife in another country. Kinda makes sense...good luck and let us know if it worked out for ya.
Just out of curiosity, how are you not equating p4p with breaking the law?


Also I already discussed how OP can get women easily without prostitution via DM... which apparently he has disregarded. None of it includes illegal activities... so.. op.. I guess listen to rap, use hoes and chug black pills. GLHF and you win Gamisch, you know how to pick em when you see em. I'll bow out at this point.. Your last message sucks though, you should learn how to respond with wit.

 
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What is step 2? I just continue working out?
It was the right girls that were difficult to get
In short yes however you will face a new problem, its the market that sets the value. From the sounds of things your hitting a sub 5 SMV, this means your going to be very disappointed with what's available to you. You have two choices, settle or up your SMV. Increasing SMV is what every guy worth his salt on this forum has already suggested.

Body takes time (start now), money takes time (start now) the only thing available to you for short term gains is upping your personality. You are going to have to get your hands dirty in the field, start experimenting with cold/warm approach and build your charm.

As a guy on here already mentioned personality goes along way. Wheat Waffles gave me a SMV of 5 and I regularly hit 7+ SMV, my last 2 girlfriends were easily 8+ and apparently its not my looks.
 

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Isn't that how a forum works, discussing things?
Look...... there are no pro´s here, everyone is still learning/wants to learn from others (mistakes).

Asides from some disturbed fake posers that create fictional characters here and call everyone else losers and incels for being here while having nothing to show for themselves, there are rookies here (like you) and there are people that learned to be more or less successfull in procuring pvssy and/or navigating the shallow waters of LTRs and marriage.

People here provide you with advice on how to proceed from where you stand right now according to your writings. Wether you take that advice or not is up to you.

While a forum works through "discussing things", there has to be an understanding that YOU start at 0 (ZERO).
While it is perfectly fine to ask for help, it is your turn to start DOING THE THINGS instead of starting discussions with people that are way above your league wether the advice is valid or not.

While it is useful to understand why you are doing these things, you will have to experience some things to understand why you are doing other things.

You just startet a marathon, not a sprint and right now you are still arguing with your coach why you should start with your right foot instead with your left foot and wether it wouldnt be wiser to wear a red shirt over a yellow shirt.

So...... how about you just get going and do what you are told, while you keep reading, learning and reporting your progress for the next couple of years and get some finetuning to your approach from time to time,

OR ignore what you dont like to hear and suffer the consequences for the rest of your life.
 

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All the advice you got here is worth what you paid for it. :cool:
 

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School was a boiling hot nightmare for me. I never got noticed, while everyone around me did. No matter how good I took care of myself, how charming I was, how funny I was, etc. it was a battle I could never win. Also, I noticed that every time I tried to approach or impress a girl, the universe throws an extremely embarrassing moment at me, like there's a cloud over my head.

Now, the last time I was at this forum, every member here would type like they were ****ing angry teenagers. This was back in 2007/2008. The members here were horrible horrible horrible back then, and so far, it seems to have improved greatly since then. A girl I liked flew over from Canada to see my best friend, and it messed my head up baaaaaaaaaaaad. And no one here cared, no one helped me, no one gave good advice, everyone just threw around bad advice as if it was good advice. It made me angrier and want to stay single forever.

Is it best to just stop eternally and focus on everything else in life? Should I save myself the embarrassment of trying? I'm a pretty creative liar, and I have successfully convinced people that I'm not a virgin. So maybe I could lie for the rest of time? Though I'd love to have sex, I don't seem to crave it as much as everyone else.

I don't know if it will help, but I can post a picture of myself if you guys want, so you can tell me what my chances are.
I didn't read through this whole thread, too much to read. Don't make women a focus in your life. Sex is not a big deal, trust me. Find things you like to do and interact with the world. Love yourself and don't make anything else too big of a deal.
 

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Your moral standing (read arrogance and whitenightery) is not going to assist your outcome. Woman dont give a stuff about your moral quandry or complete lack of life experience. You only get one life, you have wasted the majority of your best f'ing years so get on craigs list now start living. Or go to a swingers party, do something ffs.
Being a single guy going to a swingers party, OP has no chance. He has no wife/gf to swap. Those places are filled with older women.
 

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Edit: Also I've been reading a lot of other threads, and articles. There are a few contradictions, which is why I ask the things I ask.
I'll throw you a bone here. You're getting shvt on because you talk too much. For us here with high testosterone it's very annoying. Women talk, Men do. Most of us are already dealing with squabble and convo's going in circles with the women in our lives, but at least it pays for itself with puss. You're acting like a women and the members here are consciously or sub-consciously treating you like an annoying woman.

Everything you need to know has already been laid out at some point on this forum. Less talk, more read. You don't need the attention nor custom advice you think you do. You just need to read, absorb and implement. Shvt or get off the pot buddy.
 

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