35 and a virgin, is it best to give up?

[ThisIsSparta]

I have money. Also... "arguing"? I already brought up what my workout routine is, and no one seemed to have objected to it.

Well you seem rather reluctant to let go of your Rasputin style.

I have objected to your workout routine.

 

[Anom]

Well you seem rather reluctant to let go of your Rasputin style.

Uhhh not exactly. I just wanted to throw out some questions about it, and was stating that people had conflicting views about it. Someone did say to not use only this forum for stuff like that.

I have objected to your workout routine.

You said to lift weights and run. That's what I was doing. You also said "only women, fags and old farts" use the stairmaster. I'm actually surprised that word is allowed here. You say that on any other forum and you get banned instantly. Not that I give a ****.

I was gonna work out, lose this weight, and then post a full body picture of myself a month or two later and move on from there. Didn't expect the whole "get a hooker bro" thing to drop, but uhh sure, we'll work that in too.

 

[Foe]

Didn't expect the whole "get a hooker bro" thing to drop, but uhh sure, we'll work that in too.

You're 35, its too late for compromise, its exactly what led you into this position. Don't mock the advise that will work, mock yourself for being in this position.

 

[Anom]

Okay, see... we started this thread with working out, getting better clothes, getting better glasses, etc. Now, so that we don't run into argument circles and word-twisters, what should come first? The hooker thing, I presume?

 

[BoomToTheMoonAlice]

Get over yourself, you are literally the person standing in the way of your ability to achieve what you want. Gamish had good advise. It takes a deep issue to get to 35 and not be laid once, time you understood the gravity of that situation and stop f'ing around.

The fact you started this thread shows you are willing to put yourself out there for public critique, good first step. Next step get laid, if that sounds daunting (which it should, given your situation) get a hooker to minimise the walls you have built for yourself.

Your moral standing (read arrogance and whitenightery) is not going to assist your outcome. Woman dont give a stuff about your moral quandry or complete lack of life experience. You only get one life, you have wasted the majority of your best f'ing years so get on craigs list now start living. Or go to a swingers party, do something ffs.

Also given your lack of experience be prepared for a complete fail on your first time, sexual disfunction (no erection, premature ejaculation, clumsy action) these are all yours to overcome and to be honest it takes years of good f'ing to get any good at it.

Buy viagra just in case and have it ready for your first crack, it may just be the thing that sets you up for a second round.

Gamisch had sh1te advice to be fair. Staying in America and using pros? Pathetic guys. I'd love to know how many of you are riddled with STDs.

 

[Gamisch]

Gamisch had sh1te advice to be fair. Staying in America and using pros? Pathetic guys. I'd love to know how many of you are riddled with STDs.

You throw out a better advice for him please sir. Let me geuss: hit the gym, get a haircut pay AMS 2000bucks for a videocall, cold approach untill you get arrested.

You really think I don't know there are better ways for the AVERAGE man to go by? But here the thing: being 35/36 (nearing 40 ) and having zero experience with women is far from average. Hey, its been mentioned before: that random 304 he'll meet on __ name dating app_ and picks him over Chad/Tyrone..is probably also riddled with diseases.

There's a reason why prostitution is named the oldest profession in the world...because at the end of the day it's a shortcut for men who dont want spent time OR dont know how to make a woman submit.

There's more to life than women. If i had a magic wand I'd give OP an hb7,6 who'd "love him dearly ". Meanwhile in reality he'll follow your advice,lose tons of money and time only to end up here again.


What's your advice? His quickest way to get laid is hookers. Period.

Lets see if your advice is better. I'll be the first to admit whenever another man has a betted idea..

 

[SW15]

I am a writer, had a journalist job and am currently more or less in the game development scene and graphic design. I'm to assume that's nothing that would impress a woman?

Not in the slightest bit. Video game stuff is considered nerdy and dweeby to women.

I am 5' 11". I am a manager at Walmart, what do I make? $14 an hour, which is also translates to "not enough",

There are guys that make a lot more than $14/hour (in a 40 hour workweek, that is $29,120/year). Men who make in the $75,000 - $125,000/year range are getting feedback from the female marketplace that their incomes are insufficient to impress.

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That face is the face of a sub-5 man on the looks tier.

There are three tiers of men: Sub-5, Normies, and Chads. Women auto reject the sub-5s. Normies (typically around the 5-7.9 looks range) might have a chance but it's a struggle for them. Many normies get friend zones. 7-7.9 might be upper tier normie. Chads have abundant options with females. Most women are chasing the top 10-20% of men.

 

[ThisIsSparta]

You said to lift weights and run. That's what I was doing. You also said "only women, fags and old farts" use the stairmaster. I'm actually surprised that word is allowed here. You say that on any other forum and you get banned instantly. Not that I give a ****.

I'm already doing the gym for 1 hour. I do the stairmaster for 30 minutes, then 100 sit-ups,100 push-ups and do 30 heavy lifts. I don't know if that's enough. On the alternate day, I do the stairmaster for an entire hour, but not do the lifts. I still do the sit-ups and push-ups all the same. They do stay on a 300-400? calorie deficit, I don't remember the exact numbers.

THIS is what you said. I am not a native english speaker but i am pretty sure there is a big difference between what you describe and what you are supposed to do to build a body that attracts women. Thats why i recommend that you get educated by some pro´s on youtube on that topic.

But i get the feeling you allready know everything, while your attention is fixed on hookers and your facial hair.... which are the least of your problems right now.


Are you sure you are not a troll?

Fags yes..... maybe you are a social justice troll? Your picture would fit that character.

 

[BoomToTheMoonAlice]

I'm listening to a non-stop barrage of loser attitudes. Game is ineffective, now you need money, looks and a car to get a woman? WTF is this? Why has this bullsh1t doomer attitude been allowed to infest the manosphere? I'll tell you what man, I picked up the majority of my women wearing baggy old jeans, a hoodie, k-mart brand sneakers, no muscles and with a minimum wage job. They did not give a fck about my income, my job, my status, my car, my face. I had something the nerds didn't, I have a personality. FFS If you're relying on that other sh1t to get you women, you're not much of a catch. If all that garbage disappears, what are you left with? A bunch of hours worked staring at 4 walls in a cubicle. More often than not women bought me gifts, took me shopping and paid for my stuff. Money is just one way for them to impress ME. My wife who was piss-poor at the time, bought ME dinners.

This is why women will pick thugs over nice guys. The thugs have a personality, something that adds VALUE to their boring existence. Women will clamber all over each other to get a shot at an ex-con, a guy who plays by his own rules. Women like interesting, exotic, epic level men, period. Half the guys claiming their $$$ can't get them women are right, NO AMOUNT OF MONEY IS ENOUGH. Jeff Bezos chick probably fvked off on him for a guy who works at McDonalds. I had a buddy who lost his hot wife to a construction worker. It's not hypergamy, thats a bs concept, women want a guy who stands out. My buddy was a boring computer programmer, played games, drove a ferrari and never broke the law or went against the grain. Back and forth to a job, day in, day out for years. He was manager at his company, made a high 7 figures a year. Couldn't keep his wife at home. She was a boring dweeb scientist making 6 figs too. She threw it all away for a whirlwind romance with a guy in a hard hat and a flanel sweater... she was so BORED. Another nice guy friend married a chick, this guy was a fat little dude who lived a happy little life of sports, chess and TV while she was banging hard dudes behind his back. His kid probably ain't even his. The catch here, neither guy had the balls to call these women out, tell them to stfu because their lives were boring by the book. They never stood up for anything, they just let daddy gov tell them how to act. Never took chances, never travelled, never engaged the human experience beyond the 1st world. They had NOTHING to say, no value to add to a conversation and lived like little basement trolls, jerking off into kleenex boxes.

If you need hookers, your game is weak and you have no business giving anyone advice on a PUA forum. Who f'n cares if your hobbies are dweeby, they are YOURS and you make the rules, YOU are what's cool. If she doesn't like them, she can get stuffed. There are millions of women in places other than America that think that games are fun, you just have to haul your ass out of the dumpster and look for them. I have 4 VR headsets, 3 Handhelds, 400 board games and I just bought a pair of freeline skates. If my girl objects to ANY of that, she can carry herself out the door and I'll have another girl in here by the end of the week. If anyone here disapproves of my hobbies, get jacked, you're probably a cuck. If you're interesting to a girl, you could be a mass murderer, she will justify it in her mind.

I'm ugly, deformed and an a$$hole and I get constant offers from women right infront of my wife.

 

[Gamisch]

I'm listening to a non-stop barrage of loser attitudes. Game is ineffective, now you need money, looks and a car to get a woman? WTF is this? Why has this bullsh1t doomer attitude been allowed to infest the manosphere? I'll tell you what man, I picked up the majority of my women wearing baggy old jeans, a hoodie, k-mart brand sneakers, no muscles and with a minimum wage job. They did not give a fck about my income, my job, my status, my car, my face. I had something the nerds didn't, I have a personality. FFS If you're relying on that other sh1t to get you women, you're not much of a catch. If all that garbage disappears, what are you left with? A bunch of hours worked staring at 4 walls in a cubicle. More often than not women bought me gifts, took me shopping and paid for my stuff. Money is just one way for them to impress ME. My wife who was piss-poor at the time, bought ME dinners.

This is why women will pick thugs over nice guys. The thugs have a personality, something that adds VALUE to their boring existence. Women will clamber all over each other to get a shot at an ex-con, a guy who plays by his own rules. Women like interesting, exotic, epic level men, period. Half the guys claiming their $$$ can't get them women are right, NO AMOUNT OF MONEY IS ENOUGH. Jeff Bezos chick probably fvked off on him for a guy who works at McDonalds. I had a buddy who lost his hot wife to a construction worker. It's not hypergamy, thats a bs concept, women want a guy who stands out. My buddy was a boring computer programmer, played games, drove a ferrari and never broke the law or went against the grain. Back and forth to a job, day in, day out for years. He was manager at his company, made a high 7 figures a year. Couldn't keep his wife at home. She was a boring dweeb scientist making 6 figs too. She threw it all away for a whirlwind romance with a guy in a hard hat and a flanel sweater... she was so BORED. Another nice guy friend married a chick, this guy was a fat little dude who lived a happy little life of sports, chess and TV while she was banging hard dudes behind his back. His kid probably ain't even his. The catch here, neither guy had the balls to call these women out, tell them to stfu because their lives were boring by the book. They never stood up for anything, they just let daddy gov tell them how to act.

If you need hookers, your game is weak and you have no business giving anyone advice on a PUA forum. Who f'n cares if your hobbies are dweeby, they are YOURS and you make the rules, YOU are what's cool. If she doesn't like them, she can get stuffed. There are millions of women in places other than America that think that games are fun, you just have to haul your ass out of the dumpster and look for them. I have 4 VR headsets, 3 Handhelds, 400 board games and I just bought a pair of freeline skates. If my girl objects to ANY of that, she can carry herself out the door and I'll have another girl in here by the end of the week. If anyone here disapproves of my hobbies, get jacked, you're probably a cuck.

I'm ugly, deformed and an a$$hole and I get constant offers from women right infront of my wife.

Damn , glad you got that off your chest huh.

So your advice TO OP ,I repeat TO THE THREAD STARTER (yeah lets forget the OP is a 36 y.o virgin and act like the responders are the OP...) is to become a criminal, because that's what women want. Yiu do understand that the gap between being married and losing your virginity at 35 is like a a few 100 miles ,right?

You can't be this simple ...

This man just want to get his d1ck wet ASAP. This thread ain't about you, it's about a man who wants to get laid so he can get some experience.

Calm the feck down .

 

[BoomToTheMoonAlice]

Damn , glad you got that off your chest huh.

So your advice TO OP ,I repeat TO THE THREAD STARTER (yeah lets forget the OP is a 36 y.o virgin and act like the responders are the OP...) is to become a criminal, because that's what women want. Yiu do understand that the gap between beingarried and getting losing your virginity at 35 is like a a few 100 miles ,right?

You can't be this simple ...

This man just want to get his d1ck wet ASAP. This thread ain't about you, it's about a man who wants to get laid so he can get some experience.

Calm the feck down .

No, you have a loser mentality and you're giving him crap advice. OP needs testosterone not pvssy. There's enough of that in this thread already.

 

[Gamisch]

No, you have a loser mentality and you're giving him crap advice. OP needs testosterone not pvssy. There's enough of that in this thread already.

Haha whatever dude. Calm your t1ts homie.

If you wanna make personal and throw insults back and forth I am ALWAYS down for that bs ,always.

But i rather keep it civilized and provide this unique case of a man(35 y.o virgin!!!) with some solid advice he can actually use in real life. Newsflash; hookers exist for a reason.

You can't be this simple, and advice a 35 y.o virging to do criminal activities in order to man up.

You don't know who the feck you're talking to, I've been down the road if crime many times before. And it does NOT pay off in the long run. Stupid d1ck measuring contests like these is what I grew up with, so please stfu about testosterone. Looks like you're overreacting and over compensating.

I still haven't heard you say ANYTHING that a man in his situation can do to get some experience with women.

 

[BoomToTheMoonAlice]

Haha whatever dude. Calm your t1ts homie.

If you wanna make personal and throw insults back and forth I am ALWAYS down for that bs ,always.

But i rather keep it civilized and provide this unique case of a man(35 y.o virgin!!!) with some solid advice he can actually use in real life. Newsflash; hookers exist for a reason.

You can't be this simple, and advice a 35 y.o virging to do criminal activities in order to man up.

You don't know who the feck you're talking to, I've been down the road if crime many times before. And it does NOT pay off in the long run. Stupid d1ck measuring contests like these is what I grew up with, so please stfu about testosterone. Looks like you're overreacting and over compensating.

I still haven't heard you say ANYTHING that a man in his situation can do to get some experience with women.

Where did I say he has to commit crimes? He has to commit to not being a cuck and following BS advice by standing in one place. He has to commit to not taking the creeper route and hitting the p4p. Next time you're down at the brothel, take a look around, the other guys there? They couldn't hack it either. Y'all should live together in a cuck commune farming soy and braiding man buns.

You'd rather keep it civilized because you can't compete, you already told him that. I'm surprised you haven't smashed that report button yet. Now you're trying to cut him down because you know that you're not willing to do what's necessary either. He's complaining because the majority of advice given to him doesn't work... no sh1t, It's coming from dumpster divers and value villagers.

 

[Gamisch]

Where did I say he has to commit crimes? He has to commit to not being a cuck and following BS advice by standing in one place. He has to commit to not taking the creeper route and hitting the p4p. Next time you're down at the brothel, take a look around, the other guys there? They couldn't hack it either. Y'all should live together in a loser commune farming soy and braiding man buns.

You'd rather keep it civilized because you can't compete, you already told him that. I'm surprised you haven't smashed that report button yet. Now you're trying to cut him down because you know that you're not willing to do what's necessary either. He's complaining because the majority of advice given to him doesn't work... no sh1t, It's coming from dumpster divers and value villagers.

Damn you're annoying .Still zero advice for the OP.

We all know married life = frustration, as you prove over and over again. Your little tantrum doesn't impress me at all by the way . And look, our married cuffed man already talks about the report button....haha . Damn that's pathetic. "He has to not,he has to not ".

Now that you basically vented out all your frustration about the one of the biggest industries,namely the sex industry, its time you put your money where your mouth is(no pun intended) and start giving some solid advice, instead of gaslighting the topic by saying what OP should NOT do, tell us what he SHOULD do.

 

[BoomToTheMoonAlice]

Damn you're annoying .Still zero advice for the OP.

We all know married life = frustration, as you prove over and over again. Your little tantrum doesn't impress me at all by the way . And look, our married cuffed man already talks about the report button....haha . Damn that's pathetic. "He has to not,he has to not ".

Now that you basically vented out all your frustration about the one of the biggest industries,namely the sex industry, its time you put your money where your mouth is(no pun intended) and start giving some solid advice, instead of gaslighting the topic by saying what OP should NOT do, tell us what he SHOULD do.

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My advice is in the way I live my life, actions speak louder than words. I'm not surprised I have to point this out to you though. My girl was brand new when I got her, howbout yours?

'We all know' - all the guys just like you.

This man does not want to pay for someone to have to pay attention to him. Do you think wh0res respect their johns? He doesn't want empty sex, he's tired of losing and wants to dominate the game. You obviously don't know how. The sex industry is the biggest industry because there are alot of loser men out there that have to turn to it. He wants a girl to willingly offer it to him. The Op isn't satisfied making his 1st, someone else's sloppy seconds.

How does that taste btw? A little salty?

 

[Gamisch]

My advice is in the way I live my life, actions speak louder than words. I'm not surprised I have to point this out to you though. My girl was brand new when I got her, howbout yours?

'We all know' - all the guys just like you.

This man does not want to pay for someone to have to pay attention to him. Do you think wh0res respect their johns? He doesn't want empty sex, he's tired of losing and wants to dominate the game. You obviously don't know how. The sex industry is the biggest industry because there are alot of loser men out there that have to turn to it. He wants a girl to willingly offer it to him. The Op isn't satisfied making his 1st, someone else's sloppy seconds.

How does that taste btw?

Your awesome life..yeah we all know that our infamous member who joined end of September ( 3 weeks ago) named Alice in wonderland is this AMAZING thuggish man...

I always wonder how a happily married man even finds a niche website like this...oh wait:

- you conveniently disabled the ability to check your profile
-,already talked about snitching and reporting.
- don't provide an alternative solution


I kinda sense you've had many profiles before and you have some animosity towards me... but oke lets summarize YOUR solutions so far to help out a 35 y.o virgin

- " be like me"..(uhm...oke?)
- engage in criminal activities to "get an edge"
- stop losing
-find a virgin girl ( what 99% of men want )
-dont be a cuck
- don't take the creeper route
-dont work and " stare at 4 walls"
(The best advice)-get a baggy old jeans, a hoodie, k-mart brand sneakers, no muscles and with a minimum wage job.
- be ugly, deformed and an a$$hole

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That rapper named Fabulous had a song called "breath" with a line saying "you know what YOU RIGHT".

OP @Anom my advice was to simply get your d1ck sucked for once ,fast, nice and easy, but I'll refrain from commenting now.

You're best bet is to listen to our newest thunderstorm named Alice(...). I think he tries to say that you should go get a wife in another country. Kinda makes sense...good luck and let us know if it worked out for ya.

 

[Anom]

But i get the feeling you allready know everything, while your attention is fixed on hookers and your facial hair.... which are the least of your problems right now.

Oh my god... I love how every reply has to be as cold as possible.

Fags yes..... maybe you are a social justice troll? Your picture would fit that character.

Okay, now that's just being a douche. ****ing stop. We're back to that word-twisting sh!t. Seriously, there was no reason for that.

You want people to listen to you guys and not doubt you because you're pros, perfectly fine. You guys say "you need a more humble approach", perfectly fine. But if people just have some god damn questions about things because they simply want to understand things, then allllllll of a sudden it morphs into "duuuuuude you're obsessing on this". Isn't that how a forum works, discussing things?

You talked me into getting a hooker, I say yes to it, then it's "uuuuggghhh now you know everything". Maybe some of the replies are like this because people are so used to posting like that, maybe there's some mob mentality. Before anyone brings this up, no, I'm not looking for some forum that babies you, because that defeats the purpose, but when someone just wants to explore something it becomes a federal ****ing case.

 

[Deranged]

OP you've painted a pretty clear picture of whom you are after seeing the way you interact, analyzing the way you write/reply and seeing your physical appearance.

Yes, it is best for you to give up.

If you want to experience what a cvnt feels like, the warmth of a female body next to yours and the smells, moans, energy etc. that comes with the experience, you should fk an escort when you have the hankering and if you can afford it.

Always keep in mind: Life is not fair. It never was, it never will be. Nothing is owed to you, even if you've done exactly what you should have done to achieve a goal.

 

[Anom]

OP you've painted a pretty clear picture of whom you are after seeing the way you interact, analyzing the way you write/reply and seeing your physical appearance.

No, this is just one-sided bullsh!t. I agreed to everything you guys have said, but when I ask about something because I don't know, you guys switch the channel over to "dude you're pestering people about this..." I explain something and "it's trolling." One of the rules of this forum is "respect each other". I simply say, "I'm surprised the word fag is here." that's it, and then this dude just goes "Oh btw you're a troll and you look like a fag." What the fvck? Yeah, you comment on how you don't like my replies, but no one says anything about ThisIsSparta's post. Hmmmmmmm.

If you want to experience what a cvnt feels like, the warmth of a female body next to yours and the smells, moans, energy etc. that comes with the experience, you should fk an escort when you have the hankering and if you can afford it.

And I agreed to this, what's the issue? The advice was the following: gets jobs (have them), get better job and make more money (that's going to happen, like I said before), get hooker to get first time out of the way, work out, cut hair, get better glasses (on the way). Is this wrong? Some of that won't happen overnight.

Edit: Also I've been reading a lot of other threads, and articles. There are a few contradictions, which is why I ask the things I ask.

 

[Foe]

get hooker to get first time out of the way,

Exactly, I should have been clearer in my advise, I wasn't suggesting you create a lifestyle around hookers, more to play catchup as they are professional and you will learn quicker without the embarrassment that can come with doing it in the wild.

You came with a specific issue, this solves it. If you had asked how to get the love of your life I would have given different advice. If you had asked how to get a girlfriend I would have given different advice. "35 and a virgin, is it best to give up?" sets the tone of the conversation and the advice I gave follows this.