30s newbie getting back into game.

[cruzinV]

I originally made this thread on the rooshv forum but I was banned for having a "bad attitude". I just wanted to continue this thread here to document my renewed game journey so ill repost my thread. Hope this is ok.

So I'm in my early 30s and never had a gf, about 13 ONS mostly with mediocre women. I used to approach girls doing night game when I was in my 20s but maybe about 1 or 2 a night. Once I hit 30 I pretty much stopped approaching and went MGTOW and would just go out to people watch and get ****faced, usually alone. Well after a few yrs of doing this I realized it's unhealthy and a pretty ****ed up way to live. Problem is I have severe approach anxiety, I haven't approached a girl in 2 years. My looks is my biggest sticking point, my friends have told me I'm about a 4/10 and I think that's pretty accurate. I need to stop thinking about my looks and just approach girls and not give a ****. But what's the best way to develop the idgaf attitude? How do even get started after 2 yrs of not approaching anyone? I dont have any friends and always go out alone, I think this also hurts my chances. Any advice is appreciated, just trying to change my lifestyle, I feel at this point in my life it's now or never.

 

[cruzinV]

So Its been over half a year since i started gaming again, my AA has really gotten better BUT I still havent been able to get a lay. So results wise im exactly the same place as i was when im MGTOW. I did find a good wingman but he doestn go out as often as I do and hes a chad so doesnt understand the looks issues, he thinks im struggling because something is "off" with my game yet he cant give me a clear answer on what exactly is "off". My game is actually better than his but he has looks on his side.

Ive taken two trips with him to other cities and these were the results:

Trip 1: He banged 3 girls in 4 days and i was essentially left to game alone cuz he always had a girl with him. He either met the on tinder or nightgame. He convinced me to try tinder which was an utter failure, the few girls i matched with would either ghost, or never reply. My friend was was surprised how little interaction the tinder girls were giving me. Just goes to show chad has no idea how the other half lives. Anyway i got zero lays but did have decent conversations with girls but couldn't get beyond that.

Trip 2: We took a day trip to a beach town and he got laid on the first night, again i got nothing.

This past weekend we hit up the beach clubs and I swear we were in there for maybe 20 minutes before he pulled a chick to take back to his house so i gamed alone all night. Got rejected all night.

 

[cheyne]

Having a handsome wing is rough!! I've been there!! lol

 

[escaleraroyal]

You actually look pretty handsome in your profile. If you are a 4 then I'm a 1

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

I originally made this thread on the rooshv forum but I was banned for having a "bad attitude". I just wanted to continue this thread here to document my renewed game journey so ill repost my thread. Hope this is ok.

I got banned on return of kings for having far too much game. Also, mods there and especially sherdog are the biggest cucks and phaggots on planet. I blame low testosterone and bbc cuck porn but i digress.

Op, step game up. Do your part. Learn. Live. Smash. Repeat.

 

[cruzinV]

I had a pretty amazing night on Saturday, easily the best night I've had in years. I hit up the club and hooked up with a petite girl with a nice ass and very pretty face. She was standing next to me by the bar with her friend and I tapped her arm and started to chat, she seemed pretty receptive so I bought her a drink. Her friend was going to a table but the girl stayed with me. I invited her to a table and we pretty much danced and made out all night, we were having a great time and couldnt keep our hands off each other. Also had a lot of guys trying to take her away from me, like when I went to the bathroom she'd tell me guys would come and hit on her. Even her friend tried to take her to their table but she blew her off. We stayed together till the club closed. I texted her today and invited her out next weekend but she hasnt replied yet. I know girls are flaky af but she seemed to really like me so hoping she comes through.

 

[cruzinV]

You actually look pretty handsome in your profile. If you are a 4 then I'm a 1

Dude that's James dean

 

[escaleraroyal]

Dude that's James dean

I dont know him. Dont know many actors.

 

[Visionist]

A lot of girls will go crazy on a night out, then get buyer's remorse in the morning. Happens all the time; they can't resist their emotions. I'm not saying she won't contact you but forget about her till she does.

You should always aim to fūck a girl then and there, when she's all over you and her emotions are high, fūck her good, because there's no guarantee she'll like you after.

Logistics. Always be ready to take her to a hotel. It isn't cheap but after you've smashed maybe she'll split the hotel bill. lol long shot I know but if she likes you in the moment... always prey on her positive emotions and punish (by ignoring her) her negative ones.

Keep at it. I'm torn between starting a cold approach marathon and letting women pick me. I won't get laid in the latter case, not at the moment...

 

[malz1]

You're not as ugly as you think if you're making out with a girl. Then again, we don't know her options.

 

[sexymanman]

are you going to loud as fark clubs with dancefloors? if not get to those clubs.
notice the girls who are into you. don't just go up to any hot girl.
some of the girls you will like who are interested in you. others you won't be interested in but they like you.
avoid alcohol especially if your trying to improve your looks. going out alone is better imo. girls notice that your out to fark not to get drunk with mates. some girls will think your a creep others will know your out to fark and they are too out to fark and be interested in ya. you just don't wanna be approaching the wrong girls when your older especially younger ones who ain't interested at all. there will be lots of younger ones that will be interested however. again you gotta notice this ****. eye contact is a biggie and the way they look at you.

 

[sexymanman]

A lot of girls will go crazy on a night out, then get buyer's remorse in the morning. Happens all the time; they can't resist their emotions. I'm not saying she won't contact you but forget about her till she does.

You should always aim to fūck a girl then and there, when she's all over you and her emotions are high, fūck her good, because there's no guarantee she'll like you after.

Logistics. Always be ready to take her to a hotel. It isn't cheap but after you've smashed maybe she'll split the hotel bill. lol long shot I know but if she likes you in the moment... always prey on her positive emotions and punish (by ignoring her) her negative ones.

Keep at it. I'm torn between starting a cold approach marathon and letting women pick me. I won't get laid in the latter case, not at the moment...

its always the girl picking you. you just gotta turn up and act on when shes interested in ya.

 

[Ricky]

The old trick I remember from clubs is try to get her to do a venue change with you. If you are in an area with lots of good clubs get her to leave the one you met at and go to another. It creates a sense of being a couple already and has real strong effects in my opinion. It increases your chance of a first night lay

 

[evan12]

I originally made this thread on the rooshv forum but I was banned for having a "bad attitude". I just wanted to continue this thread here to document my renewed game journey so ill repost my thread. Hope this is ok.

Welcome to the forums, Koddo for yourself to start trying again, I think your are not choosing your battle wisely , If you are 4/10 then club is not your best place to find women, you will waste a lot of time there where look is all what matter.
I would recommend you to register in some part time college courses or some other social arrangement, where women have a chance to see other qualities of you.
Let us know your progress, also may I ask what is your uthenticy and what country you live ? that will help giving you a better advise

 

[cruzinV]

Last weekend I went to LA and got two numbers at the REQUEST of the girls. The first one was a blonde 22yr old with a perfect ass, her body was a personal 9/10, and face was cute too. overall id give her a solid 8. I talked to her while i was pregaming at a bar and she seemed super cool, zero "hot girl" attitude. She complimented me on my body. I told her what city im from and she said "oh im going next weekend, get my number!". She seemed kinda excited, and i was tellign her about the clubs i go to etc. We talked for like an hour but she had to leave, i asked if she wanted to go clubbing later but she wasnt gonna go out so. Later that night i hit up a club and talked to this hot colombian girl, we were chatting pretty good and i was making her laugh and buying drinks. She asked me to give her a back rub but i guess i suck at it cuz she playfully said i needed lessons, then she gave me a short neck massage. She askes me to get her number just like the blonde. I thought this was a good sign so I went for the kiss but she backed off. I tried again but she kept turning her head. we pretty much talked till the club closed and i invited her out to have brunch the next day but she said no thanks, lol.

The blonde said she ended up going out that night but i guess she wasnt really interested in hanging out since she didnt let me know. Or maybe she only wants to hang out in my city since she prolly doesnt know many ppl here? Who knows. Anyway even though the girls asked me to get their number i dont think they'll amount to anything, maybe the blonde but shes been terse in texting.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

I originally made this thread on the rooshv forum but I was banned for having a "bad attitude". I just wanted to continue this thread here to document my renewed game journey so ill repost my thread. Hope this is ok.

I also got banned there, RooshV, sherdog, rsdnation, etc. A lot of phaggots on forums. The mods here are chill. Forums like sherdog are full of Internet tough guys and trigger happy Mods who cannot find their ****kkk let alone pull. Furthermore, outside name,rRooshV has nothing to do with the forum.

Op, take drastic action. Get baeeeees. If you got resources, do a boot camp. If you don't, get to free tour,ccheck inner circle. Cultivate being, "that guy" rather than the Internet tough guy who relies on OLD to get girls. OLD is full of low hanging fruit, single moms, pist wall, and cratered SMV. Meanwhile hotter girls are turning 18 everyday. Put work in. Cut alcohol and ****ty drugs. Learn how to enjoy pickup and integrate your way of Being natty not via inebriated and or via comp screen in cowardice fashion. If you don't lift,sstart immediately. Clean your diet up. Get paper right.