300 Approaches = 1 Lay

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It’s hard to learn with women cause women don’t even know wtf they want and they change their mind so often. Some women also go after the lowest of the low when it comes to guys, I can learn certain traits but I can’t and won’t learn how to be a deadbeat bum that keeps her interested cause he brings nothing but constant drama.
Some guys choose to keep trying, learn and improve from every experience.

Some guys throw in the towel and give up, claiming it's not their fault.

Both guys gonna die someday.

Your choice.
 

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Men well into their 40s consistantly get approached and chosen by much younger women or questionable women /ladyboy when they have their presence in S.E Asia or third world countries in red light districts.

Learn how the game is played. You pay for their college because they tell you they are a student.
Is that what people are referring too in this thread? I don't know who is who on this forum as rarely visit it, so I don't know.
But obviously, if someone is rich and white and living in SE Asia and running sugar daddy game, then yeah, they should have a 100% hit rate lol
 

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Is that what people are referring too in this thread? I don't know who is who on this forum as rarely visit it, so I don't know.
But obviously, if someone is rich and white and living in SE Asia and running sugar daddy game, then yeah, they should have a 100% hit rate lol
That's the current narrative my fanboys are projecting.

They even create new accounts just to be closer to me.

Too bad I'm on a 5 year rotation.

You boys must seriously think I only game in SEA hahaha
 

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Guys. Make your presence felt in the brothel of your choice. You'll be approached and chosen every single time.

Bat 1000% Post success.
 

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Is that what people are referring too in this thread? I don't know who is who on this forum as rarely visit it, so I don't know.
But obviously, if someone is rich and white and living in SE Asia and running sugar daddy game, then yeah, they should have a 100% hit rate lol
The answer is simple. Move to a piss poor country with a high underaged prostitute / "going to college students" population, wear your CEO suit, flash your Western wealth and get chosen even well into your 40s by younger women who tell you you're the best thing they've ever seen in their life.

Technically you can call desperate young prostitutes hitting on you cold approach so to speak (but on their end) if you've never had the opportunity to be able to leave her a tip for her services after as you never met her before.

Learn how to play the cold approach presence game. Move to piss poor countries. Profit
 

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The answer is simple. Move to a piss poor country with a high underaged prostitute / "going to college students" population, wear your CEO suit, flash your Western wealth and get chosen even well into your 40s by younger women who tell you you're the best thing they've ever seen in their life.

Technically you can call desperate young prostitutes hitting on you cold approach so to speak (but on their end) if you've never had the opportunity to be able to leave her a tip for her services after as you never met her before.

Learn how to play the cold approach presence game. Move to piss poor countries. Profit
ok, the near perfect approach to lay rate is finally making sense. This place is possibly worse than RooshV forums lol
Damn, I honestly miss RSDnation forums. There's no actual game forums left! Industry has died lol
As you were! I'm out!
 

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Positive attitude, stable & strong career, and the very much underrated CHEMISTRY which means you have similar convictions, interests, and humor, can lead to a man attracting women way above his SMV.
Bigdave17 proves otherwise, otherwise, isn't pushing stable & strong career, as part of a requirement of landing hot women, sound like blue-pill or betabux, or even gold-diggers? What about all the other threads that show some hot women choosing bums or druggies? Would you become like that if that attracted some hot women?
 

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Was the OP talking about cold approach though? Or warm/hot approach?

I think that's the confusion in this thread. I could be wrong, but I think the thread starter was talking about 1 in 300 from cold approach which is probably normal, and then people jump in like, ''ha! I get laid on every approach!'' but they've changed the metrics and are no longer comparing the same thing lol

But yeah, I agree that if you are good looking and own a mansion and a yacht and a lambo and are around girls in this environment then you'll get IOI's from girls who are into rich guys or whatever, and of course you should be banging basically every girl who gives you and IOI as would be the case for any guy. That would be like failing to get laid with a hooker or something lol
You don't control what lady gives you IOI's though. Married/engaged women, women with boyfriends, ugly women, etc... may all give you IOI's,, or some IOI's may be too imperceptible (i.e. such as nervousness, playing with hair, fidgeting, etc....) to even be noticed (i.e. likely from more inexperienced girls). You really believe that every guy should bang every girl them IOIs?
 

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Men well into their 40s consistantly get approached and chosen by much younger women or questionable women /ladyboy when they have their presence in S.E Asia or third world countries in red light districts.

Learn how the game is played. You pay for their college because they tell you they are a student.
Top tier incel JBW nonsense again. You go to Thailand then you are a hardcore incel.
 

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I estimate I've approached at least 200 new women since 1991:

7.1428571429 per year since 1991.

Works out to 1 lay for every 3.5 women I've approached.
1:3 ratio.

At least u r getting some decent pulls as opposed to those nerds with 1:100 or 1:300 lay rate.

And they keep pulling out names like rsd or roosh or something — I don't even know who the fvck are those people they keep mentioning.
 

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Top tier incel JBW nonsense again. You go to Thailand then you are a hardcore incel.
Correct Corrector. I agree that any man bragging about being approached by prostitutes in piss poor S.E.A is a hardcore Incel hiding in plain sight.

There are those that speak of social circles, but when those social circles consist of S.E.A red light district social circles they have no place in pretending purchasing pvss is the same as attaining a 100% approach success in the west.
 

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Bigdave17 proves otherwise, otherwise, isn't pushing stable & strong career, as part of a requirement of landing hot women, sound like blue-pill or betabux, or even gold-diggers? What about all the other threads that show some hot women choosing bums or druggies? Would you become like that if that attracted some hot women?
BigDave doesn’t approach women at all. And he has a horrible personality.

Hot women don’t go for bums and druggies. Stupid myth. They usually go with dudes in their social circle.
 

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They're talking about women who has low to almost no IL whatsoever towards them in the beginning and turning it around with some strong game.

Expectations to get laid almost immediately will produce high failure rate as those women has their creep/stalker defences up at approach.

But it's still possible with good game, just expect high failure rates.
Well who would even bother? Pointless conversation in my mind. That’s like going to fail for the sake of failing.
 

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BigDave doesn’t approach women at all. And he has a horrible personality.

Hot women don’t go for bums and druggies. Stupid myth. They usually go with dudes in their social circle.
You can't really dismiss threads or posts written by other people on here as a stupid myth. If someone has the requisite looks and alpha-attraction triggers and some game, without having a job or social circle (i.e. lets say he just likes playing video games all day and lives at home and doesn't care), then even that guy will land a sugar momma or hot girl who will take care of him or will put up with living together with him at his parents house/basement, whatever.

If you are not attracting women with your looks now or alpha-charisma and are instead focusing on a solid job career (i.e. even if that in itself is attainable since you have professors living on the streets because housing costs have gone through the roof in some parts of the country), then it sounds like you are setting yourself up to be beta-bux scenario and then end up in scenarios such as BigDave's thread portrays.

Now you tell me that BigDave doesn't approach women at all. But here's where things get funny. Do you really think, if you have a solid career that you'll have the time to do any cold approach? Also, what people display on here, in a confidential type of forum where they can express their thoughts, does not translate to how they are socially. He appears to you to have a horrible personality because of how he is expressing his thoughts online. He is not going to be a successful car salesperson and able to go on vacations or buy his own house if he really had a horrible personality because nobody would buy from him and he's make no money.
 

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Well who would even bother? Pointless conversation in my mind. That’s like going to fail for the sake of failing.
No sane man could cold approach women on the streets or clubs at the numbers they suggested.

Unless they're jobless or bums with nothing to do irl.

I'm thinking they're equating OLD = cold approach

Only then those numbers seem possible... 300:1 heh
 

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Well who would even bother? Pointless conversation in my mind. That’s like going to fail for the sake of failing.
Don't forget though, so people believe in game (and so they will approach anyone with the idea of 'making' the girl into them. But that's a very outdated belief I guess judging from the replies)
 

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After a decade of pickup +/-, its not much to compute in terms of analytics.

Game after a levels of competence, you acknowledge high and low interest level. Its telling when to push, pull or next.

Gold standard is as follows, 3 encounters, and smash or next.

Anything but equates to cuck status.

There's no X amount of cold approach equals smashing. Its either on or its not. Ambiguity is disinterest. Anything BUT dtf means #nextset!

Men seek a magic pill. They want a easy out put or minimal effort exerted. Its useless. There's game, a means to increase the probability of success.
 

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als, i'm guessing some of the answer here are people who only approach off of huge IOI's etc. Bit of a difference

Also. 90% of guys never ever cold approach, so the 'human race' factor is a non-issue, lol

People hook up with their work colleagues, social circle etc
Pretty much cowardice on steroids.
 

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Nobody's talking about the Elephant. Walking around the streets I find about 1 in 50 woman is worth approaching. That's why. it's certainly helping me to come to terms with my girlfriend's average looks but wonderful personality. Compared to the hordes of tatted ham planets she's a goddess
 

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That and subconsciously sending out signals to you.

It's almost a slam dunk by then unless you fumble at the approach.

What kind of subconscious indicators or choosing signals are most common, would you say?
 
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