300 Approaches = 1 Lay

[fanatic22]

Aha! As I suspected! Yeah. that makes sense. I can bang pretty much every girl who is giving me massive IOI's. (although that only happens like once per year)

But I approach random hotties who don't know I exist or think i'm ugly lol. So yeah, 1 in 250 or so

Yeah that’s the way the world works. It’s hard for hot guys to nail hot girls; if you’re ugly it will be very hard. Either better yourself or lower your expectations.

 

[Spaz]

And yeah, my handsome wings in theory get laid 100% of their 'approaches' lol. Although, it's usually basically a girl approaching him! haha

Thing is women do approach men more often then not but it's done covertly so that its you ending up approaching them.

That's how the game is played.

These are the women that already finds you attractive and wishes to know more about you.

Location or venue plays a huge role but it's subjective.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Im going to officially keep count. For hot girls (at least a 7.5) I’m about 1:100 by estimation. Average looking girls 1:30-50. This is a raw number that includes the ones I discard before the lay because something is wrong to me on their end (who wants to bang a *****?) or just bad logistics.

 

[flowtheory]

If you’re only getting 1 lay for 300 approaches that’s horrible. That sounds made up. I would think the normal for an average person would be 1 for 10. It’s not that difficult.

 

[EyeBRollin]

If you’re only getting 1 lay for 300 approaches that’s horrible. That sounds made up. I would think the normal for an average person would be 1 for 10. It’s not that difficult.

No but it’s more complicated than that. The higher the girls market value relative to yours, the worse that number gets. If you go **** a 40 year old fatty that ratio will turn very favorable.

 

[Spaz]

If you’re only getting 1 lay for 300 approaches that’s horrible. That sounds made up. I would think the normal for an average person would be 1 for 10. It’s not that difficult.

This sounds about right.

I'd get on average 1 in 3 and that's already frustrating on my end but it's what makes the game even fun.

It's not that hard to get laid gents, yes it does seem hard but it's not if you learn how to read women's body language and able to not only sustain her IL but escalate it.

You'd get laid.

 

[robotmoogabi]

I would think the normal for an average person would be 1 for 10. It’s not that difficult.

I'd get on average 1

lol. You guys are cracking me up.

 

[characternote]

I don't think anybody here is talking about cold approach. It's changes everything.
1 in 30 is better than most pro PUA's.
1 in 50 would be exceptionally good. Would need good looks and good game
Take some random guy on the street and see how many COLD approaches it takes him to BANG some hot girl who doesn't pre-select him, and we'd be looking at like 500+ approaches. Maybe even thousands
COLD approach. I don't think anyone on this forum does that tbh lol

 

[Spaz]

lol. You guys are cracking me up.

The difference is you approach women who has yet to have any IL towards you and that's why high failure rates for you gents.

Increased sphere of influence will produce increased social presence and this in turn produces lots of opportunities.

If you have fvcked 1 girl and made an impression, you'd be exposed to her group of female friends who some will undoubtedly find you equally impressive and this WILL further increases ur smv.

Don't tell me you guys are that clueless...

 

[EyeBRollin]

This sounds about right.

I'd get on average 1 in 3 and that's already frustrating on my end but it's what makes the game even fun.

It's not that hard to get laid gents, yes it does seem hard but it's not if you learn how to read women's body language and able to not only sustain her IL but escalate it.

You'd get laid.

You’re banging 40 year old fatties.

 

[fanatic22]

I don't think anybody here is talking about cold approach. It's changes everything.
1 in 30 is better than most pro PUA's.
1 in 50 would be exceptionally good. Would need good looks and good game
COLD approach.

“Pro PUA”? That just means they aren’t afraid of rejection and are at least somewhat charismatic. I, like many other guys, have both of those characteristics. Women like sex as much as men. Female friends have told me they often go out with the express intention of getting laid. It can’t be 1 in 50.

 

[characternote]

The difference is you approach women who has yet to have any IL towards you and that's why high failure rates for you gents.

Increased sphere of influence will produce increased social presence and this in turn produces lots of opportunities.

If you have fvcked 1 girl and made an impression, you'd be exposed to her group of female friends who some will undoubtedly find you equally impressive and this WILL further increases ur smv.

Don't tell me you guys are that clueless?

I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying it has nothing to do with what the OP is talking about in terms of cold approach. Apples and oranges. I don't think the OP mentions warm approaches. That's obviously easy street, but relies on being very handsome

 

[Spaz]

You’re banging 40 year old fatties.

Your failure is not my benchmark

 

[characternote]

“Pro PUA”? That just means they aren’t afraid of rejection and are at least somewhat charismatic. I, like many other guys, have both of those characteristics. Women like sex as much as men. Female friends have told me they often go out with the express intention of getting laid. It can’t be 1 in 50.

your numbers piss all over Tom Torerro, mystery, RSD etc. Maybe you're actually that good/handsome.
Whatever. I don't expect you to upload infield footage of yourself banging every girl you approach, so i'll just take your word for it. Good stuff.

 

[Spaz]

I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying it has nothing to do with what the OP is talking about in terms of cold approach

If u r talking about just trying to get laid by just walking up to a girl who has shown no IL to begin with then yes my failure rate will be extremely high.

But why do it when there are better options to get laid?

It's the results you men want then do it right.

 

[characternote]

If u r talking about just trying to get laid by just walking up to a girl who has shown no IL to begin with then yes my failure rate will be extremely high.

yes, that's waht i'm talking about. And unless i'm mistaken, that's what the OP was talking about.
That's what pretty much all cold approach material is about, tbh
But i'm glad we cleared that up lol

 

[flowtheory]

1 in 50? What in the holy hell. That’s outrageous. If you can string a sentence together, have average looks (which is the vast majority), and know basic female knowledge you can get laid with ease. especially on apps like tinder or bumble.

 

[characternote]

to give you an idea, I was reading the book today of someone who claims to be like, one of the best there is, and he talks about approaching like 5 girls per night, goinng out twice per week, and expecting to get laid with 2-3 girls in the 9-10 range per month, i think

 

[corrector]

Aha! As I suspected! Yeah. that makes sense. I can bang pretty much every girl who is giving me massive IOI's. (although that only happens like once per year)

But I approach random hotties who don't know I exist or think i'm ugly lol. So yeah, 1 in 250 or so

Fascinating. Is this massive IOI's in bars only? What about daygame? Do you do approaches in the mall, side-walk or public transit?

 

[Robert28]

guys that suck at baseball probably complain that it's impossible to hit and base hits are a myth.

The thing is you can practice at baseball and get better eventually. I can learn to hit a curveball or learn how to guess pitches depending on the count, I can learn to catch and throw. It’s hard to learn with women cause women don’t even know wtf they want and they change their mind so often. Some women also go after the lowest of the low when it comes to guys, I can learn certain traits but I can’t and won’t learn how to be a deadbeat bum that keeps her interested cause he brings nothing but constant drama.