30 seconds is all it takes

[Passion]

By "PUAs," i refer to Mystery, Tyler, etc. The "naturals" like the ones you mentioned, i just see as... cool guys.

I don't know why you call them "naturals", they are considered PUAs and refer to themself as PUAs. Woodhaven was even a student of Ross Jeffries and endorses him as a mentor.

3. Because i feel like it? Honest!

No, I think the real reason why you post on here is because you realize your own forum is not any good (you basically just copy and paste posts from other forums on there) and because a lot more people are on sosuave - it gives you the attention that you strive for.

 

[The Juan and only]

Well well krass, I see you haven't commented on my last posts, probably meaning you agree but don't wish to cede that point....or can't think of a structured argument against it. And I am starting to sound like a real pr1ck actually. But really, you have to accept my argument is a nice addition, if not replacement for your original post:

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[Krassus]

I didn't bother commenting because it became obvious to me that you and several others here apparently have nothing better to do but spend endless hours arguing with people online. Its gotten to the point where you're putting words in my mouth and then arguing that what i never said is incorrect. In the last day or so, i've expanded my ignore list, as i'm no longer willing to spend my time talking to people who don't want to listen. If you like my threads, you're welcome to continue reading them; if not, just stay out. Cheers.

 

[The Juan and only]

no no. I'm not merely arguing for the sake of it; although I will admit a good heated discussion can be very fulfilling at times. :cheer:


I am arguing because I hate the way you dogmatically stick to your own beliefs, refusing to accept that what works for you, won't necessarily work for others (that's the dilemma of giving philosophical advice)....and regardless of constructive criticism, you plough on, shamelessly advertising your forum like some half-bit salesman. Despite your attitude, I think some of my points in this thread have been valid.

Also, I "have nothing better to do" than waste time proving myself online??? that's rich. And if you stopped being so aggressive for a sec then people wouldn't get so riled up. just saying.

 

[ImpatientFire]

This is one of the best posts I've ever read and it fits my lifestyle very well. I'm the kind of person that trully cares about the women I approach but I've always heard that in order to be a DJ I'd have to turn into some macho dude that doesn't give a fvck. I agree you dont need to care but I think it only applies to being rejected. If you trully care about the women you approach, you don't care if you get shot down. I love this post.

 

[Holland]

I think he means more to love yourself and to love the actual experience then to love the girl he's approaching.
If you're just there too have a damn great time women will be attracted to it.
That is the truth.
I just came of a holiday and me and my friends went out partying every night.
I'm one of those people who just can be in a club or a bar and just completely let go while dancing and just really love to dance, enjoy the music (the genre doesn't matter) and have a great time.
(interesting note: 1-1,5 year ago I would feel selfconcious just bouncing my head along with the music).
But anyway. When I would completely let go and just don't give a fucck and have a damn great time I noticed that a lot of women start noticing me and dancing real close to me. Now I don't have any experience with turning a situation like that into something (only did 2 cold approaches yet and the girls I 'practice' on I meet through my social circle) so I just made sure I had some fun with them.

I think it's similar to what this guy's describing. You just are in such a good mood and enjoying whatever you're doing that it's so magnetic to women. You can't try it. You have to be it. That's the difference between attracting and seducing.

 

[Kourt]

Hey Krass,

You ever go to meet one of these 30 second pick up girls and then realize you can't remember what she looks like? My only concerns would be remember her name and possibly recognizing her in a crowd after only meeting her for 30 seconds.

 

[Bvbidd]

He's talking out of his ass he picks up philopino hookers and tells himself it's because of his philosophy bullsh!t.

 

[Krassus]

Hey Krass,

You ever go to meet one of these 30 second pick up girls and then realize you can't remember what she looks like? My only concerns would be remember her name and possibly recognizing her in a crowd after only meeting her for 30 seconds.

Yea, this has happened to me. My favorite example is the time i slept with this girl and then tried to pick her and her friends up several days later. It wasn't until she shook my hand and told me her name that it hit me. Her friends thought i was kidding Since then i've somewhat trained myself to focus on specific facial features and memorize them. I've gotten better, but still need practice in this department, especially because girls keep changing their hairstyles

Bvbidd
This message is hidden because Bvbidd is on your ignore list.

I'm sorry, what?

 

[Bvbidd]

Looks like he proved my point. :crackup:

Read his other posts. He must have had a sh!t load of insecurities cuz he's always posting about being succesful when it's really just sh!t he has. Just make sure you don't listen to everything posted.

 

[The Juan and only]

bvbidd is right on the money here. Krassus talks a lot of crap...and i find it worrying/shameful how many people are willing to follow his advice -- mindlessly showering his AW ass with the accolades he so desires.

I think he means more to love yourself and to love the actual experience then to love the girl he's approaching.

if that was the case, I would agree with him...but that's really not what he's saying, especially in his original post.

 

[Krassus]

Jealousy is a b1tch

 

[Passion]

Krassus talks a lot of crap...and i find it worrying/shameful how many people are willing to follow his advice -- mindlessly showering his AW ass with the accolades he so desires.

Yeah I've noticed that he is an A.W. too. That's the only reason he keeps posting on this site because he knows there's not enough people going to his own website for his validation-seeking behaviour.

 

[The Juan and only]

Jealousy is a b1tch

that actually made me laugh out loud. see, arguing in a comical tone is much more effective. stop being so serious about this forum.

 

[dynamicallyidle]

This would work on some girls, but not all. You can pretty much get a read on a girl whether a sappy technique like this would work or not, "I'm shy...but I really want to meet you."

Some girls just categorically do not dig this approach. But I could see this working, on the other hand, with some other girls.

 

[Soapz]

Good original Post.

Shame that the thread got all clogged up with ego's and flaming.

Anyways, the problem with using a description like "Love" is that its too Big a word- too vague and it means different things to different people. The second the word "love" pops up in a post around here, people get into "Flame this SOB" mode. :box:

I personally don't care whether this "technique" works or not- all I know it that I live my life this way (With Love in my Heart), and I've never been happier.

And I guess its not a coincidence that the biggest players and the most charming people have this "Spread the Love" vibe about them.

Don't let preconceptions blind you- read the post for what it is and try to resist images of flowery hippies from popping into your mind when reading.

Luck!:cheer:

 

[Bvbidd]

Soapz, no the thing that bothers me the most about this is WTF did this random girl do to deserve this slave love? You thought she was hot.. nothing more.. she probally has had an amazing life, much better than your own and your trying to improve it.. why the fvck would you throw that all the way to worship her.. no matter the consquence?

Why does it feel good to give people what is not returned? That makes you feel empty inside.

And for those that think it's returned.. lol of course it isn't. Why do you think kids start to hate there parents? What did they're parents do other than want what's best? Just what you said.. See my point here.

The biggest players have such a happy vibe BECAUSE they are the biggest players. I mean they got there from showing they are positive people.. but they have enough of a good life to "spread the love" or whatever.

 

[Soapz]

^^^hahaha, you're right, it ain't THAT simple after all

You can't JUST start going round' loving everyone- it might work for some, but more likely than not, many will fall flat on their faces.

But what I'm saying is, having this mentality (wishing whats best for others- "love"), will definately help. I don't think this can be denied, because this is one of the main ingredients of charisma, and charismatic people get farther in life (or, in this case, girls). So maybe it ain't as easy as Krassus makes it out to be- you still need the clothes, the money, the confidence, or whatever.

I guess I overemphasized the "love" aspect so much before is because that was all I was personally missing- not to brag, but I feel I've got my life in place, and all I needed was that extra lovin' to complete myself.

Anyways, you made a few points about "slavery" and "worshiping" the girl. I don't think this is what was originally meant. But really, its impossible to describe this stuff in words. The love must be genuine- it can't be used as a "technique" to get a girl. Pretty much, if you don't WANT to, then don't. Not all people are built to be caring and loving, which is fine I guess. But until the day comes where you truly want to improve the lives of those around you- ignore this post.

I'd go on, but I get a feeling I would just start pissing people off. I'm a very hippyish person now that I think about it...lol. :cheer:

cheers!

 

[comic_relief]

Krassus,

You make me want to cry. I have been using this philosophy for almost half a year now. It works so wonderfully well that it is out of this world.

I did it naturally over the past three days and got five girls numbers out of six. Most girls find it a very real approach (even without asking) because it does not have a second ugly meaning. I just love it and it works very well.

I have tried continously to tell people this but not many follow it for it is a philosophy on life.

Best of luck man,
comic_relief

 

[Bvbidd]

It probally would work IF you had all the other value.. but then why would you want to use it if you know you NEEDED all the other value?

You still NEEDED to be more valuable then her.. and then your "loving, postive feelings" towards her gives makes her think she can leech off of you. Of course that would work.. but how can you love them when you know this?