3 guys threatned me. Scary Incident on Campus

[backbreaker]

Again I feel that the stupidest one in this situation is the b!itch who made a huge deal out of a guy talking to her on campus. What the hell, she must never get hit on or something.

If you want to get technical what I think happened, is that I think the OP was just in the wrong place in the wrong time. I think she gets hit on quite often, and he just sat out ot "make an example" out of the OP. So if that is the case, you have to thien ask yourself.. what about the way the OP carries himself, makes the dude, think he is the type of guy they can make an example out of? Something about the way he carries himself, comes off as soft. nothing is wrong with that, I don't particularly come off as hard lol, but the difference is, when people try to see if i am soft or not they quickly find out. I might not be hard, but I will defend myself. I KNOW becuase of who I am and the way I dress/ talk carry myself, I am going to get tested, it just is. the fact that I am a black man who has an affinity for attractive skinny white women../.and they seem to have the same affinity for me, doesn't help matters either. It just comes with the territory, you WILL be tested. IN alot of those situtations, the dude doesn't give a **** about there being a misunderstanding. He is the misunderstanding rotfl. He cares only about proving something. The only thing you have nto do is just show him that look, I'm not the one brah.


But you have to also keep in mind... the mindset of a guy who would "attack" a guy because of a girl is by nature an AFC mindset. It's a last ditch effort to show how much of a man he is to the woman so to speak or to show he's more of a man than you are. 95 out of 100 times, the guy isn't intestate in violance anymore than you are. He is just hurt and wants his woman and this is how he sees him getting her in his mind. It can generally be disused by just standing your ground. Those 3 aisans, where nothing more than a "show of force" to use a military term. Real military powers, don't have to use a show of force, they force. People who carry guns or knifes, don't have to use a show of force, they have a force. If the guy was really interested in beating your ass he would have beat your ass or tired to. He was interested in intimidating you and you allowed yourself to be intimated.


People that can bite, don't bark. If the guy was really some bad ass ninja gaidien mofo, he would have just split your ass in half at the thought of you macing his girl and been done with it. The more someome talks, the less bite they have. I have found this to be true 100% of the time. In business, in virtually every facet of life. The more people have to talk about what they can or will do the more they in reality can't do it or dont' want to do it. it's like the guy who talks about how big his **** is all the time.


I'm going to share this tory with you then I'm going to go get some nookie lol. This is not me, this is from a guy that was one of my original mentors in AA. He is believe it or not a preacher, actually a quite famous one in little rock though he has passed away a few years ago, was clean like 40 or 45 years. He's told this story like 500 times I know it like the back of my hand and it's 100% true. Anyway, this was back in the 50's when this happened.. just to show you the mindset of how someone with bite acts. He was in the club one night, guy was fly as hell, even at 80 something he was a very handsome man, i bet he was a freaking pimp in the 50's. Anyway, he's in the club, he's talking to this girl, and she's digging it, then this dude comes along and starts macking this same girl. The guy asks him (my mentor),.. no.. tells him.. but in a politte respectfyul manner, hey man i'm talking to her do you mind. The dude says hell yeah nigga i mind now step the **** off, and everyone is laughing at him. He didn't say ****. He left. He asked some friends who the dude was and where he lived, he found out. went to his house, parked the car a few blocks away, walked into the bushes, waited for him to come home and split his head wide the **** open with a lousiville slugger baseball bat, killed him. He did time for that, which is when he got clean and turned his life around. Anyway, that's the guy you need to be worried about, the guy that doesn't say ****. not the guy that is going to go around barking all the damn time. The guy was not one for games and did not like being embarassed. He wasn't going to waste time making a scene, he just dealt with the guy.

 

[Man_CA]

To BackBreaker,
This "I am a man. I will never back down attitude" might get you killed someday when you messed with the wrong dude/crowds. I would rather be smart, than get into a fight with 3 unknown guys. Its called being cautious, not being stupid.
No, I am not a nerd. I can pretty much handle myself in a fight, even against a bigger guy. I have a martial art background and also pick up boxing along the way.

 

[Falcon25]

Backbreaker,

Enough already. No need to write a novel. You are showing severe insecurities. No one cares. Seriously. Enough. You're going to get killed with this attitude. You will not see 35, I guarantee it. Unless you stop this. This kid's situation has nothing to do with what you are talking about. You have major issues you need to work on.

 

[cordoncordon]

IMO there is a time and a place for everything, and in this case, the OP, who obviously is not a "tough" guy to begin with, did the right thing. Him taking on 3 guys by himself would not be smart nor beneficial towards his long term health. There are times to be macho and stand up for yourself with violence, this was not one of them. Especially over a girl he doesn't even know and with 3 strangers who may or may not be carrying a weapon. I would hazard to guess that many of you who are espousing the OP should have fought those 3 and who say they would have fought them themselves, would back down if confronted with the same situation.

There are always options to defusing a situation like this. One obviously is to just walk away. Another option, one that I would have used but I'll grant you this is not always easy to remember to do, though I have done it in the past, would be when the guys confronted the OP, to smile at them, laugh, and say "she has a bf? Wow man sorry bro, no disrespect. I saw her and thought she is foiinnnee and I had to say hello. We must have the same taste in women. Props for having such a hot gf and it will not happen again bro, you have my word". And shake the guys hand.

That way, you not only avoid getting your azz beat, but you smooth out the situation by turning the tables. You have complimented him and his girl, you come across as cool and show you have something in common with the guy threatening you, and you are confident and not into all the drama.

It's a win/win/win for everyone involved.

 

[backbreaker]

Backbreaker,

Enough already. No need to write a novel. You are showing severe insecurities. No one cares. Seriously. Enough. You're going to get killed with this attitude. You will not see 35, I guarantee it. Unless you stop this. This kid's situation has nothing to do with what you are talking about. You have major issues you need to work on.

I know you are trying to make a name for yourself by calling me out on my "insecurities". you are a cool cat, I have nothing against you, so I am not going to bad mouth you. You make alot of posts I agree with. I will just post what I posted in another thread for you and others to digest.

One of the things, that you have to get over, is this overall sense, of right and wrong. Things in the real world, are never black and white. Marriage, is never a bad thing or a good thing. Sometimes it fits and sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes it's correct and sometimes it's a mistake. I have a guy who I am trying to do full time graphic work, more than double his salary, but his new wife doesn't want him to take it because it's a 1099 job. On the other hand, LBJ, proposed to ladybird, on his first date. I think that worked out pretty well for him. I think one made the correct decision in getting married, I think one did not. On the other hand, you don't think having a strong willed woman by his side would not help a guy like charlie sheen? that man needs some ****ign stability like I need a blow job. In reality, I dont' think charlie sheen and george w bush are that much different. Both were pretty ****ing hard core drunks/addicts with famous parents and connections, one had a strong woman who whipped his ass into shape and told him to be something or I'm gone, and the other did not. One was the president of the united states, one is in rehab.

Speaking of LBJ, to get across my point of there not being a such thing as right and wrong.. here is a man, who literary, just flat out stole the 1948 senate race. stuffed the ballot boxes to win by like 100 votes. Everyone knew he stole the election. However, this is the same man, who 10 years later, single handily, force feed the south the first civil rights bill since reconstruction almost 100 years earlier, there IS no civil rights bill in 1957 without LBJ as the senate majority leader at the time, he is the sole reason that bill passed. So is he "good" or is he "evil"? The truth is he is neither. I have a client right now, that does online rep management for upcoming pop stars. We do all his web work. He tells me, when are we going to have this next site up? I ask the freelance grahpic guy above, he tells me WEdnesday. I tell the client wednesday. the client tells the singer wednesday. Wednesday comes, site isn't up, client rips me a new one and I sit there and take it like a man. calls me every name in the book becuase he lied to a client and he doesn't like lied to clients. What he doesn't know however, is that I was covering for the graphic guy who I knew, 1. had a full time job and 2. only got like 1 hour of sleep the previous night. I know he had the intention to have it done wednesday it just could not happen. getting mad at him would have done me no good, nor would have casting the blame on him, but I assure you the client has told his actress that I am at fault and everyhting is my fault, which I'm okay with. Am I bad becuase3 I didn't deliver on time, or am I good becuase I am covering for a guy who I know wants badly to work full time as a freelancer and I'm being patient with him? The truth is I'm neither good or bad, I'm a guy who like every other guy, is looking after his long term ambitions, and becuase its' in my best best interest to work with the full time freelancer, I am willing to put up with some disgruntled clients and along the way, **** happens, **** like, only getting 1 hour of sleep happens lol. Sometimes, **** happens in life. **** is neither good or bad, it's just ****. Don''t ever confuse circumstances, with character.

A woman dating you and having sex with another man, does not make her a "bad" woman, a guy abusing drugs, does not make him a "bad" man. LIfe is full of ****. I abused drugs, and when you get to the core of it, I abused drugs becuase I had alot of self esttem family issues. So do you blame my mom? My mom did not have a father, her real dad she only saw 1 or 2 times in life and her step dad is in jail for life. So let's blame the step father, well the step father was in jail because he killed 2 white men robbing a store my grandmother was just so happening to be working at and he just so happened to be outside at the time coming in (true story). Life is full of ****, and the mistake people make, is judging **** or character. Some people "(like myself) have the tendency to deal with **** better than others. but it would behoove you to stop classifying things, and people as right, wrong, good bad, evil, good.


Good and EVil, Bad and good, right and wrong, are terms that people use to rile up pawns and get them to think emotionally about certain things. Marriage is BAD, marriage is GREAT, both are just as wrong. Marriage can be good or it can be bad depending on the certain sides of the marriage, the reasons of getting married and so on and so forth. The man who shuns marriage for the sake of shunning marriage, is just as stupid as the guy whose sole goal is to get married. It's a case by case scenario in which it can be prudent to marry the correct woman, or it can be a disaster in marrying the wrong woman. I have found a woman, that I think it is prudent to marry for reasons I have exhausted here at length.

The truth is, there is no right or wrong answer. In a situation where I am concerned, I would personalty pop one of the guys, that's just me. doesn't make it the right thing to do, doesn't make it the wrong then to do, but it does make it, what I would do. If in your eyes, you think I'm going to get killed tomorrow, more power to you. could care less. That is how I have and have always handled that type of situation and it has done pretty well for me. If you have gotten by in life, by taking the more conservative route and you are happy with the results, you are probably going to be preaching the exact opposite.


it's a situtation not much different from drug recovery where one person was able to recover using AA for instance, and becuase he did it this way, he feels that this is the one and only true way to recoever from drugs and chastises everyone else who doesn't believe him. Truth is as with everythin else, there is no right or wrong answer. I have done nothing more than prove my point of view, I could care less about being right, becuase I know it's right to me because it's me.

 

[cordoncordon]

I know you are trying to make a name for yourself by calling me out on my "insecurities". you are a cool cat, I have nothing against you, so I am not going to bad mouth you. You make alot of posts I agree with. I will just post what I posted in another thread for you and others to digest.





The truth is, there is no right or wrong answer. In a situation where I am concerned, I would personalty pop one of the guys, that's just me. doesn't make it the right thing to do, doesn't make it the wrong then to do, but it does make it, what I would do. If in your eyes, you think I'm going to get killed tomorrow, more power to you. could care less. That is how I have and have always handled that type of situation and it has done pretty well for me. If you have gotten by in life, by taking the more conservative route and you are happy with the results, you are probably going to be preaching the exact opposite.


it's a situtation not much different from drug recovery where one person was able to recover using AA for instance, and becuase he did it this way, he feels that this is the one and only true way to recoever from drugs and chastises everyone else who doesn't believe him. Truth is as with everythin else, there is no right or wrong answer. I have done nothing more than prove my point of view, I could care less about being right, becuase I know it's right to me because it's me.

There is for sure a time and a place for what your course of action would be, and I totally respect what you are saying. I would say if if was a lone guy coming up to you, and it was over something serious, say like a guy trying to rob you or something, then yeah, do what you have to. In this case though, it was 3 guys against one over a girl the OP didn't even know. Better to make light of the situation and move on. The odds of anything good coming out of him taking on 3 guys was very very small. Kinda like the 3 idiots that jacked your car a few months ago. You chose not to fight, and imo you did the right thing. Gotta know when to pick your battles.

 

[AAAgent]

There is for sure a time and a place for what your course of action would be, and I totally respect what you are saying. I would say if if was a lone guy coming up to you, and it was over something serious, say like a guy trying to rob you or something, then yeah, do what you have to. In this case though, it was 3 guys against one over a girl the OP didn't even know. Better to make light of the situation and move on. The odds of anything good coming out of him taking on 3 guys was very very small. Kinda like the 3 idiots that jacked your car a few months ago. You chose not to fight, and imo you did the right thing. Gotta know when to pick your battles.

enough with the keyboard jockeying and i think your first or second post backbreaker about your upbringing made the point already.

Especially for this OP guy, that all he does is posts trifling a$$ sh1t everytime.

I have been following him for a while and he bring's the asian race disgust and disgrace.

He's asked multiple times about why he fails with women and everyone tells him he's fvcking creepy and needs to change his approach. He then posts pictures and ask's for critique and advice. The OP needs a serious makeover as well as to work out and get into shape. I don't think he was fat but a better body would have helped his receding hairline he mentioned and showed.

Then later on he again post's about his failures which are a result of his creepiness again. There is a reason the OP only fails and not only fails ultimately brings bad fortune upon himself, such as almost getting jumped. The guys were pvssy by the way they sounded because you don't need 3 people to frighten the OP. One would have been enough.

People have including myself tried to reason and give him advice. I'm done with that now, the OP won't change until he is humiliated most likely.

You're not shy or afraid of approach women and that is your strength OP. You don't mind making a few mistakes to move towards success but you need to learn.

Be respectful and have manners. You clearly have a lack of manners from the information you have provided in past post's. How does a female send you an email telling you how to improve you're dating. Something must be wrong.

Work on your looks and physique. This will help both your confidence as well as both the male and female view of you. The bigger and more confident you are, the less likely you are to be messed with.

When something goes wrong, examine what went wrong. Find the fault and fix it. Don't assume what went wrong, find the exact error otherwise changing stuff around not knowing if you're wrong or right doesn't help yourself.

 

[backbreaker]

enough with the keyboard jockeying and i think your first or second post backbreaker about your upbringing made the point already.

Especially for this OP guy, that all he does is posts trifling a$$ sh1t everytime.

I have been following him for a while and he bring's the asian race disgust and disgrace.

He's asked multiple times about why he fails with women and everyone tells him he's fvcking creepy and needs to change his approach. He then posts pictures and ask's for critique and advice. The OP needs a serious makeover as well as to work out and get into shape. I don't think he was fat but a better body would have helped his receding hairline he mentioned and showed.

Then later on he again post's about his failures which are a result of his creepiness again. There is a reason the OP only fails and not only fails ultimately brings bad fortune upon himself, such as almost getting jumped. The guys were pvssy by the way they sounded because you don't need 3 people to frighten the OP. One would have been enough.

People have including myself tried to reason and give him advice. I'm done with that now, the OP won't change until he is humiliated most likely.

You're not shy or afraid of approach women and that is your strength OP. You don't mind making a few mistakes to move towards success but you need to learn.

Be respectful and have manners. You clearly have a lack of manners from the information you have provided in past post's. How does a female send you an email telling you how to improve you're dating. Something must be wrong.

Work on your looks and physique. This will help both your confidence as well as both the male and female view of you. The bigger and more confident you are, the less likely you are to be messed with.

When something goes wrong, examine what went wrong. Find the fault and fix it. Don't assume what went wrong, find the exact error otherwise changing stuff around not knowing if you're wrong or right doesn't help yourself.

If you have an issue with the way I provide advice, that's something you need to PM me about. I try to offer advice in the best manner I know how. I've said it more than once, literary skills are not my forte. Sometimes I babble and ramble, that's just me, I type what I think. dealwithit.gif.

 

[f283000]

Is this the end of sargin as we know it? Do we now have to pack some heat just to get some random b|tch's # out there in order to protect ourselves from getting gang beaten by her bf and his buddies?

I always suspected that one day it would come to this. Because of PUAs taking the game on television now anybody with a bit of intelligence can spot some guys that are sarging around campus or whatever looking for prey.

So not only do we have to worry about angry boyfriends but white knights spreading the word of what's going on, fat girls and women in general who may suspect what we're up to etc. It's no longer safe to sarge. It's not safe for our well being (as OP showed us) and not safe for our reputation as more and more people are picking up on what we're up to.

 

[amoka]

i'm currently taking 2 courses at Douglas.
At time i sarge on campus between breaks and yesterday as i was returning to my class 3 asian guys(one japanese-he spoke japanese)faux hawk, stocky build-works out), one chinese(5 10, medium build)and the other asian(didnt say anything-was there just for enforcement) all cornered me to a wall.i wouldnt be able to run

they asked me if i was chinese or japanese . im guessing so they can speak in our languages so no outsider would be able to listen.i told them i wasnt able to understand either languages fluently. the proceeded to speak in english. i was born and raised in TO.

all 3 of them corned me ,and one of them asked "why i asked for his gfs number", "do you always go around asking for girls number","what do you want my gf number for and you want to have sex with her" "i let you go this time, but next time if you talk to them we will be able to do anything we want to you-meaning beat me up . this all is a very threatening and mad like tone. it was scary. i didnt now what do do, but after class i told my instructor and he told me to report it to security.security told me to ignore them and if they come back at me or anything i should phone them on my cell. i have their number. i asked them if i see them around the cafertia or library would i be able to drag you guys along and go catch them. they said No .
i was early returning to class ,and there wasnt anyone around. i t hink one of his gf told the bf, and they followed and found out where my class was. this was probably done before.

i mean there was literally no one around since it was in a corned area in the middle of an intersection of a hallway.

i just told the 3 guys that " i didnt now it was his gf, and that if i got her number i just wanted to meet her for coffee, and if she was taken i wouldnt do anything " --one of them backed off a little. i was so scared. they did this in a very serious tone. i told them that approaching his gf and female friends wouldnt happen anymore.

i sarged a few asian girls around Douglas. I wouldnt now which was and wasn't his gf.

from now on im no longer going to sarge on campus and just keep it to downtown. first time this incident happened to me.
can't afford to loose out on broken teeth and bones. i have no dental plan at the moment.

i never said anything sexual or offensive to the girls either. first time this happened to me after sarging over so many girls in dwtn and metro. even the security guard on campus told me that their was nothing wrong with what i was doing(approaching girl and asking for their numbers)

anything like this happen to you guys before. if so let me now.

Posts like this makes me kept on coming here for comic relief.

 

[disgustipated]

Is this the end of sargin as we know it? Do we now have to pack some heat just to get some random b|tch's # out there in order to protect ourselves from getting gang beaten by her bf and his buddies?

I always suspected that one day it would come to this. Because of PUAs taking the game on television now anybody with a bit of intelligence can spot some guys that are sarging around campus or whatever looking for prey.

So not only do we have to worry about angry boyfriends but white knights spreading the word of what's going on, fat girls and women in general who may suspect what we're up to etc. It's no longer safe to sarge. It's not safe for our well being (as OP showed us) and not safe for our reputation as more and more people are picking up on what we're up to.

There's definitely an oversaturation happening. I'm seeing the term ****y/funny more and more in general, not just on internet sites catering to the men it was intended for.

Isn't Mystery like killin this sort of game in a way by bringing it to the mainstream? A bitz can just watch this stuff and be on guard for it. He's probably just cashing in on it while the getting is good, smart.

But as far as approaching wiminz I don't see how any of what the OP posted would have an effect on a real dude. I wouldn't have been in no corner and no guy I know would have. In fact I'll say a big majority of guys here wouldn't be...that's going against what's being said here in that most of WOULDN'T stand up for ourselves. If you don't allow yourself to be put in a corner by any means necessary you avoid half the debate that's going on in this thread. You aren't put into any situation where you have to "pop" someone. To me, any fight or non-fight starts and ends with you eliminating a situation where you are EVER put in a corner(compromising position) in the first place.

Example: A bit extreme I know....bare with me. If someone breaks into my house with a gun, I am NOT complying with their wishes. I am most certainly trying to escape EARLY into the incident if not instantaneously. There is no way in hell I'm getting tied up and tortured or furcked in my a$$ with my own **** or some sick twisted $hit. I've always believed that the first initial moments of an extreme encounter like this are the most crucial and the perpetrator is not expecting or prepared if things don't go as they have it mapped out in their minds. They don't have a contingent plan if you start escaping or getting the upper hand. Not saying I'm whooping 3 dudes at once, nope not possible. But I can push through 3 dudes arms and get some space...backpedal....see if they're giving chase...get to a more populated area if you can't outrun them...then throwdown/defend yourself in hopes someone helps. If you can get away, get away.

There is a time and place for popping someone though. If you concede there is NO way out of a physical confrontation and you MUST fight, get off first. Do not do this stupid **** you see in gangster flicks or whatever , where dudes are face to face talking ****...someone always get jawed...don't be that guy. If someone gets in jab range and you know there is going to be a fight regardless, you take the first swings(combo), and don't let up. That's when you pop someone, when it's unavoidable. Well, there are other circumstances too but are too rare to mention.