3 Dates and Only Making Out

[Impega]

So here is the scope:

Have been on 3 dates with this girl. But we have known each other pretty well for over a year and a half. Also, I am 24 and she is 26 if that matters.

- 1st date: Go to dinner and a movie. Hold hands in theater and give her a kiss on the cheek before saying good night.

- 2nd date: She comes over to my place and we "watch" a movie. Basically, we made out for a good 2.5 hours. However, she won't let me reach up her shirt to feel her breasts, let me unbutton her pants and only lets me rub her cooch for like 15 seconds before moving my hand. She also tells me that she doesn't have sex until she is in a "committed relationship" (whatever that means).

- 3rd date: She comes over to my place for dinner. We proceed to make out again. This time I can reach under her shirt and feel her breasts but she won't let me take off her shirt...meanwhile she takes off mine. She does let me rub her pu$$y this time though (was soaking wet) but again moves my hand when I try to unbutton her pants.

During the 3rd date make out I started thinking to myself "whats up with this girl?". I think she realized I was kinda of wondering why she was being prude and so she says something like: "I need to figure out what my feelings are before we go further. In the past I have fooled around too much too early on and confused myself." Then later she also said "I haven't felt this way in a long time about a guy".

So....whats going on here? Am I wasting my time with this chick? I don't know where we stand really but there is no way I am getting into a relationship with a girl without fooling around with her first.

 

[Impega]

Any thoughts on this?

I have already wasted too much energy thinking about this...but is this girl going to lead me on or should I just see where it goes?

 

[NoCommitments]

She's sucking you in like a black widow spider....RUN!!! Lol

Listen, she's looking for a ltr & if you're not, then you're gonna f*ck her up. So if you're not looking for a ltr & you do put the time in & bang her... than, my man, you're what they call a sc*mbag!

You're not wasting your time. She sounds like she's gonna bang you. but she wants the reassurance that you're not gonna leave her. If you only want sex than man up! If not well than we'll see you on here in like 6mnths asking us for advice on how to get rid of an annoying gf

Good luck

 

[iliketennis]

no contact for a week

take two and call me in the morning

 

[Rubirosa]

3 dates isn't that bad.....although you transitioned pretty quickly to "Home dates". Right now she's expecting you to be the aggressor. It's time to pull back a little....When you're with her, act like you're starting to lose interest...don't be like a puppy trying to hump her leg. But don't act pissed off and hurt like she's rejecting you...Act like you're having a good time. Her presence is irrelevent. Let her get comfortable on her own. Maybe that's the problem here ? You're not letting her get comfortable enough before you start putting the moves on her.

 

[Impega]

Thanks for the quick responses.

In terms of no contact.... we haven't talked since we saw each other middle of last week besides sending a couple texts back and forth (she initiated).

Since we have known each other pretty well for a while things transitioned quickly.

I am not adverse to getting in a relationship with this girl but I like to fool around a bit before making that commitment. Sexual chemistry is important to me.

 

[Impega]

This actually happened to me before. I asked the girl I was dating to go back to the "lucky lounge" aka my place and she always seemed reluctant. She kept asking me "What is it for? If it's just sex then I've already been down that road". She basically wanted me to make her exclusive. But I screen for how good she is in bed before I make such commitment. So we had a conflict of interest.

I kept telling her "I don't care what road you've been down, this is between YOU AND ME....I HATE it when women put me into a category with past guys." Basically I was being overly emotionally dramatic and acting as if it was ridiculous for her to even bring up past relationships.

She ended coming over to the "lucky lounge" and she was really good in bed. A former h0e who developed porn star skills who suddenly wanted a boyfriend. The next day, she kept hinting that she was the sexiest piece of meat in town and that I should wrap her up in monogamy. But I decided to keep my options open. She asked to borrow a book of mines.

A week later, she texted me to see if I wanted my book back. I told her she should come over to my place. She told me she wanted to meet me somewhere instead. Apparently she was still playing that "withhold sex or he'll leave you" card with me. Well her fear became a self fulfilling prophecy. I ended up telling her she could keep the book and Nexted her.

The ironic part was I was considering making her my GF. But the road to my heart is through my penis and NOT mind games. Her gameplan was designed by stupid women to keep the guy, but it ended up making the guy run away instead. It goes to show you just how defective women's games are. There is usually no field testing when it comes to women's tactics. Just word of mouth urban legend sh1t passed on through Cosmo magazine. Stupid sh!t like "If you really love him then let him go (and fvck 10 guys to get over the pain) and if he comes back, it was meant to be". Sometimes thinking about women's rationalizations make me wanna barf lol.

Ya I definitely feel the same way here.

My whole frame with this girl is out-of-whack because of this dynamic. I feel uncomfortable with the situation mainly because she is now in control.

SHE was the one who suggested that on the 2nd date we stay in rather than going out. Talk about mixed messages...

I am willing to see this girl one last time before forgetting about her if she keeps up with these shenanigans.

I have thought way too much about this situation already...

 

[Impega]

Update:

Saw her middle of last week...this time things progressed even more and I ended up getting a bl0wjob.

But before that we were making out and in-between were talking. She told me that she might have to move in a couple months depending on what happens with a job thing. She said that she would know more in the coming weeks.

I told her that there is no way I would do a long distance relationship but until she knew for sure, why should we make any decisions since we aren't even in a relationship yet.

Now I guess I have to decide if I want to invest anymore time into a potential relationship that may only be for a couple months or just end it now. Its a pretty crappy situation to be in but at least she has been honest and straightforward with me, which is more than I can say for most women.

What should I do...Just continue to go with it?

 

[runner83]

Depends on what other options you have.

If she is now up to BJ's, prob best to stick with it, lie to her that you do want a relationship, bang her, then dump her a few months down the track if she moves.

You owe her nothing!

Iron Rule of Tomassi #3

Any woman who makes you wait for sex, or by her actions implies she is making you wait for sex; the sex is NEVER worth the wait.

When a woman makes you wait for sex you are not her highest priority. Sexuality is spontaneous chemical reaction between two parties, not a process of negotiation. It's sex first, then relationship, not the other way around. A woman who wants to ƒuck you will find a way to ƒuck you. She will fly across the country, crawl under barbwire, climb in through your second story bedroom window, ƒuck the sh!t out of you and wait patiently inside your closet if your wife comes home early from work - women who want to ƒuck will find a way to ƒuck. The girl who tells you she wants a relationship first is the same girl who ƒucked the hot guy in the foam cannon party in Cancun on spring break half an hour after meeting him.

If a girl is that into you she'll ƒuck regardless of ASD or having her friends in the room videotaping it at a frat party. All women can be sluts, you just have to be the right guy to bring it out in them, and this happens before you go back to her place. If you have to plead your case cuddling and spooning on the bed or getting the occasional peck on the cheek, you need to go back to square one and start fresh.

 

[sodbuster]

She seems more honest than most women,you WILL be getting sex soon;BUT, you are worried about a LDR? The consequences of a LDR? You are making sh1t up to worry about,planning for a future that may not be. Why not just take it as it comes?

 

[firelord]

Women are reflective in nature. There is no way you'll get into her pants untill you become a player not a lawyer.

 

[f283000]

The ironic part was I was considering making her my GF. But the road to my heart is through my penis and NOT mind games. .

ROFL! Someone put this quote as their signature this is classic!