2nd chance w/ rebound fling

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I met an amazingly hot woman that comes to work once a week. I asked her out ( I know, bad) and she wasnt single so we decided to be friends, but there was clear interest. A few weeks later she dumps her bf of 4 yrs and we are making out less than a week later. (the 4yr relationship was failing obviously) We had a few dates and amazing hours long make out sessions that let to a sleepover and 3rd base. I went a bit AFC on her and told her I was falling for her and she seemed to recoil a bit but came back. She later started to talk about things moving to fast (because they def were) but she didnt want to break up. I tried to back off a bit but the damage was done. She decided to ljbf me after three months saying that it was too soon and she doesnt want to be in a relationship with anyone because she missed her bf. I played it cool, didnt act all weird, and became a friend (a rebound friend). This even went so far as to go to her parents for thanksgiving (and her folks def love me). She bought me a bday cake and we kept in friendly and mildly flirty contact.

This has been four months later and she still mildly flirts with me every so often at work, but nowhere near what we used to. Ive been helping her advance her career and let myself slide into the friend zone even further (flowers when she got sick, text every 3 days or so initiated by both). However, we really havent hung out much aside from a single friendly dinner date where we split the bill. about a month ago I spoke with her on the phone once to try to reconnect and it blew up in my face. She knew what I was up to and reiterated that im such a good friend and she isnt ready to get into any kind of relationship, long or short term, and what we had was good times but bad timing and that if I wanted to I could talk to her about girls and that I would find someone someday that I will click with like we did. Clearly this was a low point for me.

The kicker is that things have ever so slightly changed since then. My career prospects have changed drastically as I am an MD and I got residency secured about 45 min away from here. I hve been able to help secure a job for her as my replacement for when I leave (big big deal for her). I started to play coed pickup soccer and met some new people, got tanner. Ive kicked up kino after a long dry spell and she didnt seem to mind all that much, and seemed to escalate slightly (bumping, "accidental" prolonged boob contact init by her, playful pushing, brief neck rub). All of this is great but its not anywhere near what it was in the beginning. She started making comments in front of me that imply she is ready to be in a relationship "I need to find a husband (jokingly)" on the same day that she asked me if I would ever get married in Vegas (she said she wouldnt btw).

I have about 3.5 months till I have to leave and I will see her sparingly throughout most of this time. Although I will be training her in June for 2 weeks so I will see EVERY day then. after that im moving 45 min away (essentially the same city though)

What do I do with this?
 

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So you liked her, and she dumped you because you went AFC.

Then, while in the friend zone, you became even more AFC.

And since then, nothing has changed.

So why exactly would you think that you have a 2nd chance here? Because she made a joke about wanting a husband? Trust me, if she wanted you, you'd know. In her mind, you're the same AFC that you've always been. It's not like you've changed...the only thing that's different is that you're moving 45 minutes away. Is that supposed to be a turn-on for her?

Not trying to be rude. I just don't understand your logic.
 

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I get what you are saying. I dont think going a bit AFC was the only reason i got dumped. I was a rebound thats primarily why I got dumped. Ive never gone 100% non-afc with a girl and ive had many successful ltr's in the past with hot women. Clearly you want to limit that as best you can. This situation was no different. We have texted on average every 3 or so days but we have gone through stints where we didnt hear from each other for a week or so. Its hard to relate all this through a computer.

I do think my value has increased in her eyes and she seems to be reconsidering things. She did mild stuff like this when we were 'friends' last time and then I asked her out. It wasnt until after this that things got hotter.

You say "trust me youll know" and thats what im getting at. I feel like its starting over again and if I want something to happen I gotta make a move. However, I dont want it to be an AFC move.....so WTF? What do I do with this?

Oh the 45 min thing. She was VERY uncomfortable with the idea of having a relationship with a co-worker. Thats all I was getting at with that
 

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Yo Codcam,


It looks like what you've run into here is a case of being used by a girl as a "distraction" as opposed to to drawing a girl TO YOU via true "attraction". Do I believe that this woman was attracted to you at least somewhat? YES. Do I believe that she had any real intentions on giving herself to you in any way seriously sexually? NO.

Unfortunately, you will find that there are a great number of women who get ALL the attention and validation that they need just from kissing, making out, and going out with you. They don't necessarily need or WANT "you"------they just want you to make THEM feel good during that moment or period of time in their life.

It's a hard, jagged little pill to swallow "doc", but I think you know it's true.

You AIN'T in high school anymore, my friend----and neither is she. RARE is the woman who's been in a long term, sexual relationship who will suddenly play the "I don't wanna go to far" role with a guy that they are REALLY, REALLY attracted to.

The thing about rebound chicks is that their focus is usually ONLY on themselves. And as a result of this, if this woman was really trying to fill a true romantic/sexual need-------she'd have gladly used you for that purpose. Instead, what did she wind up doing? It looks like she was only looking to use you to fill her COMPANIONSHIP void-----to make her feel wanted and attractive during her low period.

That's why, the minute she knew that you wanted something more HONEST and SUBSTANTIAL--------she shut down like a crappy, crash-prone computer.

Your story is actually very similar to this guy I talked to on the show below:

How Hollywood Movies ruin Nice Guys’ chances for Romance by telling them to become Friends with Women first!

I'd advise you to listen to it when you get a chance. It'll help change your outlook on things and also help you make some better romantic moves in the future.

RESPECT to you!


V.U.
 

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Yes it all rings of truth V. The only thing that I would say is that this 4yr relationship was her first serious relationship and her "first". She is young too. 21 actualy so she isnt too far from HS. Going to listen to the link.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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codcam said:
Yes it all rings of truth V. The only thing that I would say is that this 4yr relationship was her first serious relationship and her "first". She is young too. 21 actualy so she isnt too far from HS. Going to listen to the link.

So you're making excuses for her now? First relationship. She's young.

There are plenty of young women coming out of relationships who have no trouble finding a new man to have sex with. If this girl wanted you, it would be a sealed deal already.

Let's not pretend that leaving a relationship is a magical moment where a woman's hormones stop working and she's no longer attracted to attractive men.
 

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listened to it. hard pill to swallow for sure. i dont know what to do now. the blessing in disguise is that i will be moving away and this will absolutely help me get over this.

as i mentioned, i work with her once a week and then i will have to work closely with her for two weeks in june. there will be a significant time period where i wont have to spend any physical time with her from the end of april thru the first half of may. this will all be over in july once i start residency. this girl, myself, and another coworker are very friendly with each other (celebrate each others bdays, achievements, xmas, yadda yadda) and spend most of the day socializing with each other. this is going to be very confusing and hard to deal with (read: never date coworkers)

im talking about this because its going to be hard for me to pull the emergency brake without communicating this to her first. i have been there for her, wehave a very friendly and supportive rapport with each other, she has said she always wants me to be in her life. it may sound like i am being more concerned wiht her but i dont do things to people (particularly those that I am friendly and supportive with) that may hurt or confuse them without letting them know whats happening. i would want someone to do the same for me.

how do i go about communicating this and not being the bad guy is basically what I am saying...
 

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Codcam,


Again, you are VERY similar to the guy from the show. And you're a doctor, too. "Physician, heal THYSELF"...lol But seriously, I really think you should work on switching your focus. Because "yes", you ARE focusing too much on seeing the world through HER eyes right now.

Recognize that you don't owe her anything. You're both adults. And remember: You didn't put HER in the friendzone---------she put YOU in the friendzone.

Here's another newsflash for you in regards to you beating yourself up for going a bit "AFC" on her (YOUR words, not mine):

IF you were a guy she was REALLY into, realize that you could actually get away with pulling quite a few behavioral blunders with her that early in the "getting to know you" process. I'm sure when you look back in your past that you can remember making some similar (or WORSE) dating mistakes with some other women and THEY didn't so quickly disqualify you------did they?

Once again, I'd bet that the reason why was because THEIR interest in you came from a more honest place of attraction than this girl's.

In regards to how you should deal with the closeness of your working relationship, don't do anything rash by changing your behavior abruptly. Instead, develop other interests. And I don't mean "pretend" like you're developing other interests. I mean GET BUSY getting on with your life. Start preparing NOW for the big positive changes that you have coming up in your life. Start CELEBRATING your accomplishments by laying the foundations for you to be successful in this next phase of your life.

Start tapering off your contact with her slowly, sporadically week by week. Spend smaller and smaller amounts of time with her because you're doing OTHER things. However, remember to let you good mood and your good attitude stay EXACTLY the same. That way, as you continue to erase yourself from her everyday life, it will come as far less of a shock, and she won't be able to tie your STRATEGIC WITHDRAWAL to any kind of hurt feelings on your part. This way you will save face and more importantly----stop wasting time trying to please a woman who has shown you that she has NO INTEREST in pleasing YOU the way that you really wanted her to please you.

This isn't about HER, her feelings, or what SHE wants--------this is about YOU, YOUR feelings, and what YOU want. Dude...do you think she was thinking about YOUR feelings when she threw you into the friendzone "after" she led you on by making out with you all those nights? I think not.

Start treating yourself like what you are: A man with a true sense of HONOR who is in the process of making some big moves in his life. The chick who you choose to spend time with should consider herself LUCKY that you picked "her"---------not the other way around.

It's Springtime. Go out and make yourself available to meet some brand new women. Practice your "bedside manner" on some women who actually are available and who have less emotional baggage.

As you withdraw your attention from this woman--------do it with a smile. Develop a "Sorry, I wish I could hang out with you, but I can't because I'm so BUSY these days" attitude. After all, no one clinically sane can fault you for being a good-natured guy whose life has just gotten busier, can they?

And...even if they could find fault with you, who cares? Remember, this is about YOUR life first, not hers. We. as men with a conscience, should really work to curb our tendency of being empathetic by ALSO remembering the importance of self-preservation.

Think of it this way:

Do you think HER @ss is on message boards right now "agonizing" over how what she does "might" affect YOU?



Enough said.
 
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