20 Simple Tips for the Perfect Date

[noneother]

http://www.menshealth.com/cda/artic...item=cdf999edbbbd201099edbbbd2010cfe793cd____

1. It's okay to suggest a drink instead of dinner for a first date. She dreads a boring four-course ordeal, too.

2. Call her by early evening on Monday to confirm a Tuesday get-together. (Weekends aren't for first dates.)

3. Leave your home and work numbers. No home number and she'll assume you have a wife or girlfriend.

4. If you want to keep the plans a surprise, at least clue her in as to what to wear. You do not want an overdressed, overstressed woman navigating the Talladega pits in high heels

5. Yes, she'll notice if the date location you've chosen is conveniently around the block from your place.

6. Don't assume that just because you're out with a beautiful woman, she knows how pretty she looks -- she wants to hear it from you.

7. Ask if she's too cold or too warm, and if changing the temperature is in your power, fix it.

8. Men judge women according to whether they can picture having sex with them; women judge men by whether they can imagine kissing them. White teeth, fresh breath, and unchapped lips make her more apt to pucker up.

9. Do not ask her, "So, what kind of music do you like?" The last 25 guys asked that. Be original.

10. She loves when you insist on ordering dessert. Sharing = extra sexy.

11. Tip well: Grab the check, mentally divide the bill by 10, double that number, and throw down the tip. Do it quickly but casually. Believe me, she'll be watching.

12. If she touches your arm, she's interested; if she touches your leg, she's interested tonight.

13. When in doubt, hold her hand.

14. Very small protective gestures go a long way and show her you're a gentleman: Offer your arm as she's stepping from a curb, direct her away from shards of broken glass aka Say Anything. She'll notice if you wait until she's safely in her car or house before you leave. Wait the extra 90 seconds, and next time you might be going in with her.

15. She expects you to know her eye color after the first date.

16. Women need momentum -- without it, they lose interest or wonder if you have. Momentum = a minimum of one date a week, plus a couple of phone calls in between.

17. She knows that when you invite her over for a homemade meal or to watch a movie, it's code for "tonight is hook-up night." Don't play this card any earlier than date three.

18. A Friday or Saturday night is required by date four. Otherwise, she'll wonder who else you're seeing.

19. Rule of Groping: If anything happens that couldn't be shown on prime-time TV, call her the next day. Otherwise, she'll feel cheap and used.

20. Don't say, "I'll call you," if you have no intention to. She'd prefer that you say nothing at all.

 

[NatiL]

oh god.. a lot of these rules are awful.. but some of them are pretty good, if obvious

 

[Teflon_Mcgee]

16. Women need momentum -- without it, they lose interest or wonder if you have. Momentum = a minimum of one date a week, plus a couple of phone calls in between.

See next response. Once you've acheieved the lay you just need to maintain contact at your discretion.

17. She knows that when you invite her over for a homemade meal or to watch a movie, it's code for "tonight is hook-up night." Don't play this card any earlier than date three.

Yeah, I used to think this "date three" thing. Funny how I never got layed.
But once I learned the power (and gained the ability) of the first date f-close I became unstoppable.

The succesful philosphy of dating is to f^ck and then date. Not this date for a month and then maybe get laid or wait for her to find someone who will f^ck her while you're busy dating her.

19. Rule of Groping: If anything happens that couldn't be shown on prime-time TV, call her the next day. Otherwise, she'll feel cheap and used.

Whatever!?!?! How am I supposed to have sex if I can't grope her???

Other than that this article was pretty good.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

That was a pretty good list for it to be written by a woman. She focused not on what a woman would like but things that actually mean something to her. Actually, I'm pretty damn impressed.

I only question #13 about the hand holding. This is a very intimate gesture, especially for a first date. I'm not saying not to do it, but doing it if you're not sure there is chemistry could be detrimental. I think a guy would be safe if she performed the latter scenario of #12.

Oh yeah, #18. Guys should use this to their advantage. A woman needs to earn the right to have your attention on the weekend. After a month is about right if she's been a very good girl (a consistent, ridiculously high IL) or if she asks you for a date on the weekend. This means she has a plan for the two of you on the weekend, not just her saying she's free and you doing all the planning.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Whatever!?!?! How am I supposed to have sex if I can't grope her???

Dude, she just said that you should call her the next day if you handle her goodies; she never said not to...

 

[Teflon_Mcgee]

Dude, she just said that you should call her the next day if you handle her goodies; she never said not to...

Oh, yeah....
I didn't read that one carefully enough.

 

[thefonz]

http://www.menshealth.com/cda/artic...e I can't eat the whole thing by myself:rock:

 

[THE_ADDMAN]

echh rules like this are the reason I picked here instead of men's health...

some of these rules are common courtesy (which you should be doing anyways)

other ones are just stupid.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

echh rules like this are the reason I picked here instead of men's health...

some of these rules are common courtesy (which you should be doing anyways)

other ones are just stupid.

Which do you believe are stupid?

 

[THE_ADDMAN]

Which do you believe are stupid?

6. Don't assume that just because you're out with a beautiful woman, she knows how pretty she looks -- she wants to hear it from you.

shes a vain little thing, isnt she? :crazy:

16. Women need momentum -- without it, they lose interest or wonder if you have. Momentum = a minimum of one date a week, plus a couple of phone calls in between.

if she isnt making an effort by the end of the first or second date(aka calling, making plans, or at least giving me ideas of another date), she isnt showing enough interest in me to justify my making an effort for her.

19. Rule of Groping: If anything happens that couldn't be shown on prime-time TV, call her the next day. Otherwise, she'll feel cheap and used.

what if *I* feel cheap and used? she gonna turn up with a bouquet of flowers?

maybe these rules work for some guys. I agree with being a gentleman, and showing courtesy, but some of these rules dont fit my style.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

6. Don't assume that just because you're out with a beautiful woman, she knows how pretty she looks -- she wants to hear it from you.

shes a vain little thing, isnt she? :crazy:

Alright, I can see where this could be the case. However being indifferent could backfire on you too. Initial dates are a give and take, each person needs to open up a little to allow the other person to progress. A compliment (without going overboard) lends itself well to this.

16. Women need momentum -- without it, they lose interest or wonder if you have. Momentum = a minimum of one date a week, plus a couple of phone calls in between.

if she isnt making an effort by the end of the first or second date(aka calling, making plans, or at least giving me ideas of another date), she isnt showing enough interest in me to justify my making an effort for her.

Most women have it engrained that the man should pursue. This holds especially true if he had successfully controled the date, she could be a little intemidated. Guy's should let women know that they are interested. It doesn't hurt to occasionally call to set up a date or just to say hello, I'm talking about one or two calls of a minuite or two. If she's interested, she'll reciprocate, that's what you want her to do, right?

19. Rule of Groping: If anything happens that couldn't be shown on prime-time TV, call her the next day. Otherwise, she'll feel cheap and used.

what if *I* feel cheap and used? she gonna turn up with a bouquet of flowers?

You're joking right? Besides, why would you grope her if you're going to feel used???

maybe these rules work for some guys. I agree with being a gentleman, and showing courtesy, but some of these rules dont fit my style.

I can understand this. So out of curiosity what other things are stupid because they don't fit your style?

 

[Styles]

"Ask if she's too cold or too warm, and if changing the temperature is in your power, fix it."

Thin line here

"Leave your home and work numbers. No home number and she'll assume you have a wife or girlfriend."

Horrible. Just give up your Social Security Number while your'e at it.

 

[fertileTurtle]

19. Rule of Groping: If anything happens that couldn't be shown on prime-time TV, call her the next day. Otherwise, she'll feel cheap and used.

Call and tell her what? Thank you for letting me grop you?

Leave your home and work numbers.

The hell if I ever let a girl I've just started dating call my work. I have something called a cell phone she can reach me at.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Call and tell her what? Thank you for letting me grop you?



The hell if I ever let a girl I've just started dating call my work. I have something called a cell phone she can reach me at.

Just call her and tell her that you've got to get together again sometime. As for the telephone number, I wouldn't do the work thing either. Cell phone or home if you have the insurance of "call rejection" if things go south.

 

[THE_ADDMAN]

Alright, I can see where this could be the case. However being indifferent could backfire on you too. Initial dates are a give and take, each person needs to open up a little to allow the other person to progress. A compliment (without going overboard) lends itself well to this.


Most women have it engrained that the man should pursue. This holds especially true if he had successfully controled the date, she could be a little intemidated. Guy's should let women know that they are interested. It doesn't hurt to occasionally call to set up a date or just to say hello, I'm talking about one or two calls of a minuite or two. If she's interested, she'll reciprocate, that's what you want her to do, right?

You're joking right? Besides, why would you grope her if you're going to feel used???

I can understand this. So out of curiosity what other things are stupid because they don't fit your style?

1) absolutely. when she does something that really impresses me, I will certainly let her know.

2) reciprocation is key. I dont mind planning the first few dates, or more for that matter. but if I have to call her all the time, and she isnt at least making suggestions for dates (thereby being an active member of the relationship and its moving forward), then shes probably expecting me to do all the work. not my style.

3) this was more of a rhetorical question. why does a girl flirt and tease and then vanish, never to contact you again? doesnt that make you feel used emotionally? I rest my case.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

3) this was more of a rhetorical question. why does a girl flirt and tease and then vanish, never to contact you again? doesnt that make you feel used emotionally? I rest my case.

To stroke her own ego, why else? I don't put a lot of weight on teasing and flirting, we're just playing around with each other; nothing more, nothing less. I don't put any heart felt emotions into it; why should I, I hardly know the woman.

 

[THE_ADDMAN]

To stroke her own ego, why else? I don't put a lot of weight on teasing and flirting, we're just playing around with each other; nothing more, nothing less. I don't put any heart felt emotions into it; why should I, I hardly know the woman.

when she feels used, she feels like you used her for sex to stroke your own ego. there isnt much of a difference here; both genders are doing the exact same thing.

I dont subscribe to this idea of girls being used and the guy being the cad who used them. Sex takes 2 people, and as such, both knew what they were getting into, so neither should feel used. I dont get them drunk or otherwise take advantage of them, and I am upfront about my intentions. if she hears my intentions (of having a physical relationship only), and she goes along with it, then feels used afterwards, its not my concern. She was a big girl, and she made the decision to be with me.

that being said, its not like I never call her again. I just dont call to comfort her for feeling "used"

 

[izza]

http://www.menshealth.com/cda/artic...item=cdf999edbbbd201099edbbbd2010cfe793cd____

1. It's okay to suggest a drink instead of dinner for a first date. She dreads a boring four-course ordeal, too.

2. Call her by early evening on Monday to confirm a Tuesday get-together. (Weekends aren't for first dates.)

3. Leave your home and work numbers. No home number and she'll assume you have a wife or girlfriend.

4. If you want to keep the plans a surprise, at least clue her in as to what to wear. You do not want an overdressed, overstressed woman navigating the Talladega pits in high heels

5. Yes, she'll notice if the date location you've chosen is conveniently around the block from your place.

6. Don't assume that just because you're out with a beautiful woman, she knows how pretty she looks -- she wants to hear it from you.

7. Ask if she's too cold or too warm, and if changing the temperature is in your power, fix it.

8. Men judge women according to whether they can picture having sex with them; women judge men by whether they can imagine kissing them. White teeth, fresh breath, and unchapped lips make her more apt to pucker up.

9. Do not ask her, "So, what kind of music do you like?" The last 25 guys asked that. Be original.

10. She loves when you insist on ordering dessert. Sharing = extra sexy.

11. Tip well: Grab the check, mentally divide the bill by 10, double that number, and throw down the tip. Do it quickly but casually. Believe me, she'll be watching.

12. If she touches your arm, she's interested; if she touches your leg, she's interested tonight.

13. When in doubt, hold her hand.

14. Very small protective gestures go a long way and show her you're a gentleman: Offer your arm as she's stepping from a curb, direct her away from shards of broken glass aka Say Anything. She'll notice if you wait until she's safely in her car or house before you leave. Wait the extra 90 seconds, and next time you might be going in with her.

15. She expects you to know her eye color after the first date.

16. Women need momentum -- without it, they lose interest or wonder if you have. Momentum = a minimum of one date a week, plus a couple of phone calls in between.

17. She knows that when you invite her over for a homemade meal or to watch a movie, it's code for "tonight is hook-up night." Don't play this card any earlier than date three.

18. A Friday or Saturday night is required by date four. Otherwise, she'll wonder who else you're seeing.

19. Rule of Groping: If anything happens that couldn't be shown on prime-time TV, call her the next day. Otherwise, she'll feel cheap and used.

20. Don't say, "I'll call you," if you have no intention to. She'd prefer that you say nothing at all.

There are some good tips here.

My biggest block is the title: the first date should not be perfect. Perfection, in any feminine sense of the term, comes later.

Drinks are good. Tuesdays are great. I also do Mondays. But why the hell would I leave my home and work numbers? If she's lucky, I'll leave any way to contact me at all!

Great tip about cluing her in on what to wear. I wanted to take a date for a walk once, and she appeared in the most impracticable high heels I'd ever seen. She had to go home to get some decent shoes (good thing she lived nearby).

6. Don't assume that just because you're out with a beautiful woman, she knows how pretty she looks -- she wants to hear it from you.

Women appreciate only a small percentage of compliments on their looks. Most are seen as either offensive, not flattering, boorish, rude, or awkward. Talk to women, they want to be complimented on something a bit more profound. If you insist on complimenting her looks, (it's only honest), do it right.

8. Men judge women according to whether they can picture having sex with them; women judge men by whether they can imagine kissing them. White teeth, fresh breath, and unchapped lips make her more apt to pucker up.

That is golden.

The rest seems decent to pretty good.