1st Date Tips

[drift king]

I'm currently spinning a few plates this week and have 4 girls I'm suppose to see.. 1 flaked on me yesterday so I guess that's over. And today I met 1 of them and we got on relatively well I did the usual routine of lots of kino and some ****y stuff.

The problem is that she just came out of a bad relationship and for a few months now has refused to see any guys and is in an 'anti-man' state of mind..

She only came out with me cos I exerted my dominance saying I'd walk away. The thing was most of the date I'd touch her playfully, had my arm around her shoulder (she didn't flinch which is a good sign) touched her ass a few times..

So I take her back and try to go for the good night kiss but she flinched.. Then I started having a conversation with her about what the big deal was cos it was just a kiss. Then it went onto more sexual talk as she tried to iterate to me that she's not a shy girl and that she has crazy sex if she feels ready for it but cos she is not seeing any guys right now she does not want that..

I then spent the next 10 mins going into specific detail why sleeping with me would be a good investment decision hahaha.. It made her laugh but still I didn't want to pressurize her anymore. Should I just next her?

It seemed like there was some attraction but the fact I didn't even kiss close makes me think there isn't enough there. BTW she's in her early 30s so not in that playing around age anymore.

Are there any tips as to how to play it as I still don't seem to know the best way to go about these dates and creating attraction?

 

[ARrocket]

I then spent the next 10 mins going into specific detail why sleeping with me would be a good investment decision hahaha.. It made her laugh but still I didn't want to pressurize her anymore. Should I just next her?

Dude.....what????? That sounds like it could only have been bad. Could you specify what exactly you did here?

 

[drift king]

Dude.....what????? That sounds like it could only have been bad. Could you specify what exactly you did here?

I was just making up ****y funny stuff about why it was in her best interests to sleep with me specifically detailing all the pro's and con's.. It was pretty funny though awkward but she's seeing me again friday.

I know she was trying to LJBF me and I would not let her do it and I made it pretty clear that I wouldn't be happy just being friends.. I told her I wasn't looking for a relationship either and she understands my position.

I could clearly see my problem was that during the date I was not creating the attraction needed and I wanted to know if there were any tips on how to do this?

All the literature and tips on the site seem to 'you need to create attraction.. and you can do this by buying my book etc' but there are no tips specifically for what to do on the date to create this 'attraction'.

 

[JackPrescott]

You cannot "Create" attraction. It is either there, or it isnt. IF it is supressed, then you have a shot. 1st dates with these kind of "I just got out of a relationship and my vagina is stitched together for now" lying assed bit*ches is easy.

1. Set the terms of the date IMMEDIATLEY. (Lets say it's to an outdoor rock concert. On the cell phone....

Jack: Hi, Tisha, would you like to go to a concert with me in 2 weeks, on a Tuesday, it's going to be a lot of fun, and a great show, and everyone is gonna be there!!

Tisha: Sounds like fun, sure.

Jack: Now Tisha, you know how I feel about you. I'm taking you as my date. Is that understood?

Tisha: Well, Jack, me and Bruttu just broke up a month ago and my heart and pu$$y still yearn for him in the dark hours of the night, and all I see all men as for now, are just friends"

Jack: No problem, Tish. Tickets for Section 3, are 95 bucks, I'll need help with gas, about say, 15 dollars, and you need to bring some money for food and beverages as well, in case you get hungry, because I am not feeding you, or buying you overpriced drinks at the concession stands.


Now, if Tish is a REAL friend, she will agree to all terms. If she is a dumb assed bit*ch, she will back out of the date, but she would have initially agreed if I hadnt set the pace, and I would have paid 95 bucks for her ticket, 30 in gas, and shelled out another 75 in food and alcohol frozen drinks. 200 dollars all so that she could refuse to kiss me at the end of the date? Fukk that noise.

Now lets change the circumstances.

Jack: Tish, would you like to go to this concert with me, it's gonna be a great time. Now you know how I feel about you Tish, I am not taking you as a friend, but as my date. And you know there is a difference.

Tish: Sure Jack, I'd love to go with you....AS YOUR DATE.


At this point, she can still be a flake on the date, and refuse to kiss me, or refuse Kino, but at LEAST she now knows the terms, and knows where she stands with me. Now she is worth the 200 bucks.

 

[drift king]

You cannot "Create" attraction. It is either there, or it isnt. IF it is supressed, then you have a shot. 1st dates with these kind of "I just got out of a relationship and my vagina is stitched together for now" lying assed bit*ches is easy.

1. Set the terms of the date IMMEDIATLEY. (Lets say it's to an outdoor rock concert. On the cell phone....

Jack: Hi, Tisha, would you like to go to a concert with me in 2 weeks, on a Tuesday, it's going to be a lot of fun, and a great show, and everyone is gonna be there!!

Tisha: Sounds like fun, sure.

Jack: Now Tisha, you know how I feel about you. I'm taking you as my date. Is that understood?

Tisha: Well, Jack, me and Bruttu just broke up a month ago and my heart and pu$$y still yearn for him in the dark hours of the night, and all I see all men as for now, are just friends"

Jack: No problem, Tish. Tickets for Section 3, are 95 bucks, I'll need help with gas, about say, 15 dollars, and you need to bring some money for food and beverages as well, in case you get hungry, because I am not feeding you, or buying you overpriced drinks at the concession stands.


Now, if Tish is a REAL friend, she will agree to all terms. If she is a dumb assed bit*ch, she will back out of the date, but she would have initially agreed if I hadnt set the pace, and I would have paid 95 bucks for her ticket, 30 in gas, and shelled out another 75 in food and alcohol frozen drinks. 200 dollars all so that she could refuse to kiss me at the end of the date? Fukk that noise.

Now lets change the circumstances.

Jack: Tish, would you like to go to this concert with me, it's gonna be a great time. Now you know how I feel about you Tish, I am not taking you as a friend, but as my date. And you know there is a difference.

Tish: Sure Jack, I'd love to go with you....AS YOUR DATE.


At this point, she can still be a flake on the date, and refuse to kiss me, or refuse Kino, but at LEAST she now knows the terms, and knows where she stands with me. Now she is worth the 200 bucks.

I think I see where you're getting at.. I ended up paying for both drinks and coffee even though I said during the date that I believe that it should be equal 50/50 and she agreed. Yet when the bill came she didn't even offer to pay, I hesitated to see what she would do to take the money out of her purse.. Which she didn't and proceeded to put her scarf on then excuse herself to go to the bathroom..

Sneaky tactic in my eyes and one I will learn not to fall for again next time. I'm taking her out again this week but I am going to play some pool which should cost me very little as I'm not falling for the same sh1t again.

I told her I wouldn't pressurize her for sex next time we met but I made it clear that I'm looking for someone to hang out with and to fvck and I wouldn't be happy with just being friends. She understands the terms but says she's not 'ready' yet for any guys.. How do I break this shield and get to penetrate her? (No pun intended)

I'm sure it's possible to create attraction as all the tips on the sosuave site seem to preach about how their books will teach you how to do this via prizeability making yourself scarce etc but there don't seem to be any tips on how to do this on a date or what to do.

Any tips?

 

[slowgold]

Forget the stupid books. Here's where you went wrong:

I then spent the next 10 mins going into specific detail why sleeping with me would be a good investmen

Reeks of insecurity. You were like a used car salesman selling an beat up old VW...overselling.

A confident, secure man would never do this.

I have many more tips but since I'm a woman, you probably won't listen anyway.

 

[MacAvoy]

Drift, do yourself a favour and ignore Jack's advice. He left out his most DJ aspect of his method, if she doesn't fvck him, he will kick her out of her car in the middle of the night in the middle of no where and make her walk home.

 

[ARrocket]

hey man, don't listen to Jack, he's still pissed about something else.

 

[drift king]

Ok so do you guys have any tips for me for my situation about creating attraction?

 

[JackPrescott]

I think I see where you're getting at.. I ended up paying for both drinks and coffee even though I said during the date that I believe that it should be equal 50/50 and she agreed. Yet when the bill came she didn't even offer to pay, I hesitated to see what she would do to take the money out of her purse.. Which she didn't and proceeded to put her scarf on then excuse herself to go to the bathroom..

Sneaky tactic in my eyes and one I will learn not to fall for again next time. I'm taking her out again this week but I am going to play some pool which should cost me very little as I'm not falling for the same sh1t again.

I told her I wouldn't pressurize her for sex next time we met but I made it clear that I'm looking for someone to hang out with and to fvck and I wouldn't be happy with just being friends. She understands the terms but says she's not 'ready' yet for any guys.. How do I break this shield and get to penetrate her? (No pun intended)

I'm sure it's possible to create attraction as all the tips on the sosuave site seem to preach about how their books will teach you how to do this via prizeability making yourself scarce etc but there don't seem to be any tips on how to do this on a date or what to do.

Any tips?

Well, lets go over a few things.

1. BEFORE the bill comes, you call the waitress over. You say, "oh, by the way waitress, "seperate checks" see, this isnt really a real date, we are out as just friends, aint that right cool breeze" as you look at her, for her nervous reaction. Then she is forced to pay for her own $hit.

2. I wouldnt pressure her pathetic ass for sex, but I WOULD let her know not to waste your ****ing time (In that exact language, but said with a calm smile, in a nice tone) with the LJBF bull$hit. If she wants to date me fine, if not, Hasta la Vista, flake.

3. If she insists on being a lying cu-nt with this "I'm not ready for anything yet" crap, tell her you have other options, and would rather invest energy on them, and leave her sitting on the table as you leave.

 

[slowgold]

It's kind of funny to see JP here posting about first date tips...someone who probably never had a second date.

You want tips? Here's one. BE A GENTLEMAN. Be flirty but not obnoxiously so. Open doors. Ask her about herself in addition to telling her about yourself.

Actually, do pretty much the opposite of what this Jack character tells you to do if you even want to see her ever again.

Good luck!

 

[JackPrescott]

Drift, do yourself a favour and ignore Jack's advice. He left out his most DJ aspect of his method, if she doesn't fvck him, he will kick her out of her car in the middle of the night in the middle of no where and make her walk home.

I find that highly amusing.

 

[JackPrescott]

It's kind of funny to see JP here posting about first date tips...someone who probably never had a second date.

You want tips? Here's one. BE A GENTLEMAN. Be flirty but not obnoxiously so. Open doors. Ask her about herself in addition to telling her about yourself.

Actually, do pretty much the opposite of what this Jack character tells you to do if you even want to see her ever again.

Good luck!

Do the opposite of what the Jack character tells you so you too can be an emotional Tampon like slowbraingold.

 

[drift king]

Well, lets go over a few things.

1. BEFORE the bill comes, you call the waitress over. You say, "oh, by the way waitress, "seperate checks" see, this isnt really a real date, we are out as just friends, aint that right cool breeze" as you look at her, for her nervous reaction. Then she is forced to pay for her own $hit.

2. I wouldnt pressure her pathetic ass for sex, but I WOULD let her know not to waste your ****ing time (In that exact language, but said with a calm smile, in a nice tone) with the LJBF bull$hit. If she wants to date me fine, if not, Hasta la Vista, flake.

3. If she insists on being a lying cu-nt with this "I'm not ready for anything yet" crap, tell her you have other options, and would rather invest energy on them, and leave her sitting on the table as you leave.

This is really good advice thanks. The thing is with 3 i said this in the car before i dropped her off so couldn't just walk out and leave haha. What would be the equivalent for that scenario?

Also if I suddenly get up and leave is that suppose to help you get the girl showing you can just walk away any time or is it to disrespect her and be rude just leaving her there standing by herself?

I can't imagine the girl wanting to meet you again if you suddenly up and leave in disgust causing her mass embarassment.