150 mpg car

[Mr.Positive]

Not sure if any of you have seen/heard about this, but this could be the future..

http://evolution.loremo.com/index.php?lang=en

It's an extremely efficient diesel car, only weighs 990 lbs, and gets better than 150 mpg!

It's supposed to be available in 2009, hopefully it will makes it's way to the US.

 

[BMX]

I'm down with the mileage on that.

 

[dopexile]

The US has extremely strict diesel regulations regarding sulfur emissions. In the EU they have VW's that get 55 MPG, but our government won't let us have those over here. Plus this car would devestiate general motors... so they're likely never to make it here.

Also we have really strict requirements on car safety features which makes light weight cars a non-starter.

By the way, general motors isn't a car company. They're more like a health care and pension corporation that kind of makes bad automobiles as a side interest.

 

[Joe The Homophobe]

due to safety regulations and the oil companies that car will never make it to the u.s. I would buy it in a heart beat though.

 

[HandyAndy]

Why do all these amazing cars with such capabilites have to look so ugly? Why dont they make a regular looking road car like the toyota camery and give it the same potential as this one?

 

[Levex]

Good idea, but in reality i would NEVER drive that here in the states..

Do you know what would happen if a 2500 HD Silverado or and F250,which can weigh up to 10 times as much, plows into one of those? They'll be picking out your teeth from what used to be your spare tire.

I drive a 2800 pound sedan, and i already feel nervous around trucks and suvs, because 1. They may not see you sitting so low 2. And if they dont, i'm the one ****ed not them.

No matter the safety features, theres a VERY good chance you'll die in case of an accident driving one of those.

 

[TheHumanist]

I bet money if that thing is real and still have all the conforts, the government will use the safety reasons to keep it from ever comming out. Though in my humble opinion, I suspect while they will use the weight and safety as their reasoning, the reasons will be the one above.

 

[KarmaSutra]

due to safety regulations and the oil companies that car will never make it to the u.s. I would buy it in a heart beat though.

Absolutely right.

Tesla would have made this world a far better place had Henry Ford not gotten together with his cronies and fvcked his life and work.

This is one reason I will NEVER own a Ford or descendant product of Ford. His goal was to stifle reality changing ideas for a buck.

Fvck him.

 

[SmoothTalker]

Sweet car - a bit too futuristic looking for my tastes but I like the concept.

Unfortunately you guys are right, there is a stupid, vicious cycle in North America with massive cars.

All the stupid ****s that think its manly to drive a 5 ton car that needs a 400 horsepower engine just to drag it's fat ass around - you are killing both the world and your country. Same for the soccor moms that need a Chevy Suburban to get groceries.

How ****ing selfish is it to go, "Oh I don't give a **** if I crush whoever I hit, as long as I'm ok." If you both drove normal sized cars, odds are pretty good both would survive.

Until the big three die off, and mark my words at least 2 of them will, North America will be dragging its feet in the automotive world, and we'll be paying $5 a gallon for gas as a result.

 

[bbestar]

Its actually the people which are many who are supposed to regulate what types of cars are driven and used here, not the few like the government or companies. Unless the heart of man is changed and repent, most likely this car will not make it.


Since they killed or stopped the inventors of cars that run 400 mpg of water back in the 90's.

 

[Joe The Homophobe]

How ****ing selfish is it to go, "Oh I don't give a **** if I crush whoever I hit, as long as I'm ok." If you both drove normal sized cars, odds are pretty good both would survive.

Until the big three die off, and mark my words at least 2 of them will, North America will be dragging its feet in the automotive world, and we'll be paying $5 a gallon for gas as a result.

There are positive signs, the small car segment is becoming more popular (yaris, zion, honda fit) and the prius is selling out everywhere. You do see more priuses and smaller newer cars on the road now adays. When gas hits $5 (and it will) the ____ will hit the fan for sure.

 

[Deep Dish]

Since they killed or stopped the inventors of cars that run 400 mpg of water back in the 90's.

Yeah and it's too bad Stanley Meyer, the man who you undoubtedly speak, was a proven fraud, right?

When I clicked on this thread, I knew somebody was going to mention his perpetual motion machine. Perpetual motion machines, by the way, are impossible and violate the laws of physics (specifically, the law of conservation). It's impossible for energy output to exceed energy input, but that is precisely what he claimed with his “machine.” The patents for which he held are publicly available for anyone to re-create, but yet nobody has stepped forward. What, where, when have any engineering teams from MIT, Carnegie Mellon, CIT, Cal Tech, Michigan, or any other top-notch engineering school have assembled a functioning copy of the machine? None. Why, because it doesn't work. I called you out on this before (click here), and maybe you didn't get the memo, but it irritates me you continue to propagate such nonsense.

 

[Mr.Positive]

due to safety regulations and the oil companies that car will never make it to the u.s. I would buy it in a heart beat though.

Good point, but if you look at the FAQ link, they talk about safety. This car has ABS, airbags, and a crunch zone 50% larger than most vehicles. It seems pretty safe, although it is small.

The question, is whether the oil companies will "pull some strings" to keep the car out of the U.S. If they want to, they probably will find a way unfortunately.

EDIT: and the price of the car...about $13,000. I'd buy this car in a heartbeat if/when it gets here.

 

[bbestar]

Yeah and it's too bad Stanley Meyer, the man who you undoubtedly speak, was a proven fraud, right?

When I clicked on this thread, I knew somebody was going to mention his perpetual motion machine. Perpetual motion machines, by the way, are impossible and violate the laws of physics (specifically, the law of conservation). It's impossible for energy output to exceed energy input, but that is precisely what he claimed with his “machine.” The patents for which he held are publicly available for anyone to re-create, but yet nobody has stepped forward. What, where, when have any engineering teams from MIT, Carnegie Mellon, CIT, Cal Tech, Michigan, or any other top-notch engineering school have assembled a functioning copy of the machine? None. Why, because it doesn't work. I called you out on this before (click here), and maybe you didn't get the memo, but it irritates me you continue to propagate such nonsense.

Why should I let MIT, Carnegie Mellon, CIT, Cal Tech, Michigan, or Television, or President Bush or you determine my reality or your reality or what is possible or impossible. Free energy was discovered decades ago, the reason they want you to think is impossible because they can't make money off you using water powered cars.

If you and millions of people want to live in the box they want you to live in... fine...Its your life... but probably not the life God intended you to live..
abundant life. that's for sure.

 

[Teflon_Mcgee]

Why should I let MIT, Carnegie Mellon, CIT, Cal Tech, Michigan, or Television, or President Bush or you determine my reality or your reality or what is possible or impossible. Free energy was discovered decades ago, the reason they want you to think is impossible because they can't make money off you using water powered cars.

If you and millions of people want to live in the box they want you to live in... fine...Its your life... but probably not the life God intended you to live..
abundant life. that's for sure.

The bottom line is there is no such thing as free energy.
People who speak of such things assuredly have not spent the years required to understand thermodynamics and the math, physics, and chemistry to back up the claims they make.

We haven't seen better engines/cars for several reasons.

1. The heat engines we use already approach maximum efficiency as is goverend by physical laws.

2. Fossil fuel is one of the best fuels available, period. Nothing comes close to being as easy to safely transport and get as much energy per amount.

3. Because fossil fuels have been so plentiful and easy to use there has really been no need to find other sources. Even now we are still sitting on BILLIONS and BILLIONS of barrels worldwide. Yes it will be depleted but when there is such an enourmous amount there is/was really no reason to find other sources.

It's simply the market that has existed that stops this "miracle" car from existing. Once the market changes enough (oil runs out) we will have alternate sources. None of these sources will ever compare to oil.

Even electric cars take polluting power plants to charge. Not to mention transmitting electric power from the plant to your house creates huge power losses due to the power dissipated in the power lines. This means that it takes even more energy to charge your battery.

Fuel cells look promising. But what about the energy it takes to manufacture these? What about the chemicals and processes that reak havoc on the enviroment?

Water powered vehicles? If you use electroalysis to get hydrogen then where do you get the electricity from? Where do you store the hydrogen? Where do you get the water? Water in the future will cause more wars and death than oil does now (even if it's used only for drinking and irrigation.)

 

[SmoothTalker]

Lets not get into a flame war about whether there's some conspiracy holding down free energy..

While oil is currently the best fuel, there is absolutely no reason why we can't use it more efficiently. This car tries to do exactly that, and from the looks of it, is pretty successful.

 

[Ingeniarius]

I was just wondering exactly how strict are the car safety regulations in America? This car is made in Germany and was on TV in Europe a while back, and the documentary showed that it had Formula 1 safety technology. Those cars use carbon fiber tech now, but a few years back (late 90s to early 2000s) they employed sheet metal for the driving cell. There hasn't been a death in F1 racing for a long time considering the way they drive (like crashing into a wall at 180 km/h).

The German government is the natural enemy of all engineers, according to some engineering students I met there a while ago. Hell, they can't even make custom stretch limos because of the safety rules.

 

[Ingeniarius]

Compare the measurements to a Boxster for size, the damn thing is awfully small though.

Loremo:
Measurements (l x w x h) 3800 mm x 1360 mm x 1140 mm , < 600 kg
Boxster
Measurements (l x w x h) 4.329 mm x 1.801 mm x 1.292 mm, 1.305 kg

 

[Mr.Positive]

I was just wondering exactly how strict are the car safety regulations in America? This car is made in Germany and was on TV in Europe a while back, and the documentary showed that it had Formula 1 safety technology. Those cars use carbon fiber tech now, but a few years back (late 90s to early 2000s) they employed sheet metal for the driving cell. There hasn't been a death in F1 racing for a long time considering the way they drive (like crashing into a wall at 180 km/h)..

Good info Ingeniarius!! thanks for this. From what I've read, this car does pass the safety standards here in the U.S.

It's the emission standards that are pretty f*cked up here.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but it's my understanding that they take the environmental impact per gallon of fuel burned. So, a car in the EU puts out more carbons per gallon of fuel compared to our standards here.

The f*cked up thing, is that with better fuel economy, the cars in the EU are actually better for the environment because they burn less overall. Less fuel per mile driven. Argh!

This little car has a 20hp turbo diesel. HOPEFULLY, it will be allowed here in the U.S.

I'd like to see someone argue that a 20 hp diesel is worse for our environment than a huge 400hp gas hog seen everywhere on our roads..

 

[djtdot]

20 HP diesel? How is it going to accelerate on the massive freeways here?

From the back it kinda looks like a 911.

PS: Ok after some reading I found out that it can go at a max speed of 160km/h. One version goes from 0-100km/h in 19seconds and the other one in 9 seconds.

I would buy this car! Much more fuel efficient than any other car and only $14K .