15 Reasons To Avoid Single Mothers

[Tiguere]

15) Baby Damage

Child birth has a traumatic effect on the female form. Pregnancy leaves stretch marks, saggy breasts, and c-section scars. I've also heard that the nookie is even stretch out and it isn't the same anymore. Then there's the weight gain. Some chicks NEVER LOSE IT, or they never get their former hot shape back.

14) Babies Interrupt Nutbusting

I've had this happen to me. I was banging a chick and her kid interrupted my sex. Needless to say I was pissed. If some kid is going to interrupt the meanest head you've ever gotten, that kid should have your last name.

13) Scheduling and Logistical Problems

Chicks will use this as an excuse to get out of date with you or they may legitimately can't find a baby sitter. Either case it isn't your problem. By avoiding single mothers you effectively eliminate to excuse from ever being used.

12) Is He The One?

This is only a problem if your trying to pursue something other than a booty call. Wanting to spend time with you, but not wanting to bring strange men around her kids, you find yourself only seeing this chick after 10 or 11PM. You want to move forward, but she has to make sure your the "one." This could take months. It's bad enough these chicks are "interviewing," you to be a potential boyfriend, but these chicks are now gauging your parenting and fathering skills? AH, HELL NAW!!!**** YOU AND THAT!!! I suggest dealing only with chicks that are readily available to hang out.

11) Rent-A-Daddy

Realizing her mistake, realizing that kids (especially boys need fathers,) The chick gets desperate. Any and every guy has the potential to be "daddy." Your out trying to smash, not inherit a family.


10) Double Heart Break

Your with the chick then everything falls apart. You not only do you have to deal with losing the chick, but you've formed a bond with lil' Jimmy. You and Jimmy play HALO together, watch the A's toss the ball around, go to the zoo, and things dads do with sons or daughters. On top of maybe missing the chick, you miss the kid. The cold part about it is, you may miss the kid more than you the chick.

9) Unnecessary Expenditures

Contrary to that **** women spew about "not needing a man to spend money or take care of their kids," guess what's going to happen if relationship moves forward,YOUR GOING TO BE SPENDING YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY ON HER KID!!! Your six months to a year or year an half into a relationship with this chick. You mean to tell me NOT EVEN ONCE, your going pay this kid a video game, this month's issue of Batman, a cake for her birthday, some school clothes, or a Christmas present? Or course you will, especially if they father isn't around. Also early in the relationship, if your feeling the chick, if she can't get a sitter, either you or she will suggest bring the kid along. Suddenly those romantic evening you had planned for that fly little lounge get tossed for family outings at Chuck E. Cheese.

8) You Know What She Going To If She Gets Pregnant

There's a school of thought that says single mothers are easy to ****. The irony is that the same chicks that believe in premartial sex, when they get pregnant, suddenly have an epiphany, find Jesus, and won't have an abortion. Knowing this fact, do you really want to be this father of this
woman's child?

7) Decision Making and Judgment Skills Are On Display

This chick got knocked up by somebody that she was "supposedly in love with." Not only is she a bad judge of character, she's GROSSLY irresponsible. The same guy that's an inattentive, insensate, abusive a$$hole now, is the same guy she thought the world of and had unprotected sex with.

6) You'll Never Be#1

When your trying to build a relationship with somebody, you should be the focus of the woman's life. It should be about you and her. If she has a kid, you'll NEVER BE #1!!! That's not a bad thing either, but it's something I don't want to deal with. Neither should you.

5) Resentful Little Bastards

I recently experienced this. Though it happen to me personally. This chick I'm messing with, her best friend is involved with a co-worker. Thing is baby girl just broke with her "baby's daddy," for good after eight tumultuous years.
The daughter though a bright and sweet little girl, is a ****ing brat. Even though her parents had a ****ed up relationship, (due to her father and his issues,) it was all she knew. Due to her age, (the little girl is eight,) all she want is her mom and dad to be together. Being upset, jealous, resentful, and wanting a return to normalcy, the little girl told her grandmother, (my bed buddy's friend's mother,) that her mom loved her new boyfriend more than her.

If your dealing with a single mother, not only do you have to win over the chick, you have to win over the kid(s), something that may or may not ever happen. When your dealing with a chick, you shouldn't have to worry about a third party trying to sabotage your relationship.

4) Reduction In The Number Of Children You Want To Have

We all have an idea of the number of kids we want to eventually have. If you get involved with a woman with children, you can significantly reduce the number of children that you planned on having. If a chick already has 1,2,3,4 kids, how many more do you expect her to have? Or what if she's one of those woman that have problem pregnancies and getting pregnancy effects her health or puts her life in jeopardy? Adoption is cool and I'm a big proponent of it, but there's something about having your on kid.

3) Your Not My Dad

You hook up with the chick. Eventually the issue of discipline is going to come up. Some kids being resentful or just being a bratty prick is going to eventually pull the "YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO!!! YOUR NOT MY DAD!!!" card. Personally, if I did date single mothers and some dumbass kid pulled that stunt on me, I would say, "Your right. I'm not your father. Since I have no authority over you and you refuse to listen to me, you need to pack your sh*t and go live with your dad." This would be a deal breaker for me. In addition some chicks or the dad would have problem with you disciplining their kid. I'm sorry, if some kid broke one of my G.I. Joes, I'm whooping his ass.

2) Baby's Daddy

When your dealing with a chick and your getting know her, you shouldn't have to deal with kid's father. Some guys can't get over the fact that their ex has moved on. Before he was an inattentive jerk and didn't give a jolly goddamn about her. Now that you've entered into the picture, the dude wants to be the ideal boyfriend and a "father of the year," nominee." The guy stars stalking her and wants to fight you. Even if the chick and guy are on good terms, the guy feels as if he can always smash. He knows her. He knows what she wants to hear and what makes her happy. The next thing you know, your having this conversation. "I've decided to try and make it work with Jimmy's dad." Best way to avoid the situation is to avoid single moms.

1) Tag, Your It!!!!

This should be the BIGGEST deterrent to EVER dealing with a single mother. In some jurisdictions, I think California is one of them, if you start dealing with a chick with kids, move in with her and things go south. THE CHICK CAN SUE YOU FOR CHILD SUPPORT!!!! She can claim that the her and child have "become accustomed to you supporting the child." YOU COULD END UP POSSIBLY PAYING CHILD SUPPORT FOR A KID THAT ISN'T EVEN YOURS!!!! Imagine being extorted money because you were doing what you thought was the "right thing." The state doesn't give a rat's ass about the relationship being over or you being a "good guy." They just don't want the chick on welfare. So as far as your concerned, "TAG, YOUR IT!!!"

The only reason why one should EVEN CONSIDER single mom, it's because it's FOR SURE ASS and she's the one doing the pursing. She's being the aggressor, she asked for the number, she's calling, she's setting up the date. Even then, she's just there until something better comes along. Instead of putting all the time and effort into M.I.L.F.s That effort would be better spent on G.I.L.F.s


credit goes to maximus rex

 

[f283000]

That was a very good list and hopefully members spend the time to read it. Nothing but gems.

 

[jafyk]

Thanks Tiguere, it's one thing when people say don't date single moms but when you break it down like this it makes for a better appreciation of that argument. I've dated a few single moms and some of the points that really resonate with me are #4, 10, 12 and 13.
While there's a lot of valid points to consider. The tone of thread sounds like single moms are worthless and only good for when you are in between a good fvck. At the end of the day men are also the reason they became single moms and although a lot of women are responsible for a relationship ending...the fact is who knows the ex-guy could really be the bad guy in this situation. As for argument # 15 what if you got married (ok maybe you may not be the marrying kind) and your wife 2 kids later did have some of those attributes so you toss her out? Sometimes the more I read stuff on this site. I tend to see the two sides of the men. One of that side is the evil side that just sees women as objects to F and discard. In the end I believe most people get into any kind of relationship hoping that things will work out but that's not always the case is it. I guess if I were a single woman after reading this post I'd definitely be going pro-abortion just so I can be able to get a date. Still, when women present arguments that they don't wanna catch STDs or get pregnant as a reason not to be with a guy they are not sure of we as guys say it's BS. So, someone please where is the middle ground in all this? In the end men and women from each other's perspective are the scourge of the earth yet the irony is that they both want to get together with each other.

 

[Paintballguy]

1) Tag, Your It!!!!

This should be the BIGGEST deterrent to EVER dealing with a single mother. In some jurisdictions, I think California is one of them, if you start dealing with a chick with kids, move in with her and things go south. THE CHICK CAN SUE YOU FOR CHILD SUPPORT!!!! She can claim that the her and child have "become accustomed to you supporting the child." YOU COULD END UP POSSIBLY PAYING CHILD SUPPORT FOR A KID THAT ISN'T EVEN YOURS!!!! Imagine being extorted money because you were doing what you thought was the "right thing." The state doesn't give a rat's ass about the relationship being over or you being a "good guy." They just don't want the chick on welfare. So as far as your concerned, "TAG, YOUR IT!!!"

That is ****ing ridiculous. Child support laws are rigged so much towards the mothers, it's not even funny.

 

[Solomon]

Fuccing Brilliant, a lot of this is common sense that any guy whose dealt with a couple of single moms should know, I think single mothers is becoming a huge pandemic that's why there so many guys posting threads about them now, its fucced up

 

[BigJimbo]

Mark it down. One day I will buy Tiguere a nice bottle of champagne in Kiev (Arena!). Tiguere would fit very nicely in Eastern Europe. He has the right frame of mind. Actually, Latvia or Estonia might be a better place for him to start out. Tiguere, Me, and PUSH! in Riga. I need an American sidekick.

 

[seagull]

Great post to start off 2011. Ignore to the advice to your peril.

 

[runner83]

Very good list, and all true. Was going to give a rep until I found it was a copy and paste of lists previously posted various places on the web.

Have done it before for a fvck, but no more than that.

WHY THE FVCK WOULD YOU WANT TO WASTE YOUR TIME AND MONEY BRINGING UP A KID THAT ISN'T EVEN YOURS?

To me, that's just stupid and the perfect way to breed your genes out of existence! :nono:

Anyone who thinks this is not true, read this:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=145693

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

Schedules of Mating

Cheating

For this dynamic and the practicality of enjoying the best of both genetic worlds, women find it necessary to 'cheat'. This cheating can be done proactively or reactively.

In the reactive model, a woman who has already paired with her long term partner choice, engages in an extramarital or extra-pairing, sexual intercourse with a short term partner (i.e. the cheating wife or girlfriend). That's not to say this short term opportunity cannot develop into a 2nd, long term mate, but the action itself is a method for securing better genetic stock than the committed male provider is capable of supplying.

Proactive cheating is the single Mommy dillema. This form of 'cheating' relies on the woman breeding with a Good Genes male, bearing his children and then abandoning him, or having him abandon her, (again through invented social conventions) in order to find a Good Dad male to provide for her and the children of her Good Genes partner to ensure their security.

I want to stress again that (most) women do not have some consciously recognized, master plan to enact this cycle and deliberately trap men into it. Rather the motivations for this behavior and the accompanying rationales invented to justify it are an unconscious process. I fervently believe that for the most part, women are unaware of this dynamic, but are nonetheless subject to it's influence. For a female of any species to facilitate a methodology for breeding with the best genetic partner she's able to attract AND to ensure her own and her offspring's survival with the best provisioning partner; this is an evolutionary jackpot.

 

[jafyk]

Rollo this doesn't answer my question that does this mean single moms don't deserve a 2nd chance other than being used as a sex object.
I was reading the extended version of this excerpt that you had posted and it the thread was quite long I decided I'd come back to it when I had more time (I did read the whole of your writing but not all the responses which helps me to put things in perspective.
All the same while reading your post the following question cames to my mind, based on my understanding of what you wrote. You said that women do not cheat (follow their dynamics consciously) So, if Mrs Tomassi should cheat for whatever reason tomorrow shouldn't she just be absolved since from your article that would be a woman being true to her nature? If I know you like I think I do from your posts I'm quite sure you will cut her loose.
So, once again.
1)Where is the middle ground in dating a single mom?
2) Do they not deserve a second chance?
3)IF your wife should cheat why would that be so unforgivable, especially if women are that way from what you say?

 

[backbreaker]

seriously, this is DJ bible material. Great freaking post.

 

[Maximus Rex]

Tiguere. Thanks for the shot out and most importantly for giving me credit. I really appreciated that sh*t. Out of all the things that I've posted on the Net, this is the most controversial and the one that gaunders the most responses.

If you google 15 (13 the original was 13 Reasons,) Reasons To Avoid Single Mothers, you'll see the other places where this is on the web. Some dudes straight plagarized my sh*t and claim it for his own. The used it for the topic on an internet show. I have to find the link to the show.

Tiguere, I was trying to find the option to give you some respect points, but I couldn't find it. Where's that option so I can add to your rep.

 

[dk_in_mn]

Excellent post! I made this mistake recently and learned my lesson from it for sure.

 

[SharinganUser]

It's good to know but I don't need 15 reasons to stay away from single moms.

 

[Maximus Rex]

1)Where is the middle ground in dating a single mom??

No. As I stated. You know she's a poor judge of character and you know what she'll do if she gets pregnant. By the mire fact she has a kid, you can pretty much figure who she's going to react in future situations.

2) Do they not deserve a second chance?

The question isn't rather they deserve a second chance, but rather why are you the one that's giving it to them? Leave to single mothers to the masses and their babies daddies. I'm assuming that you're a happening young guy with little or no responsibilites. Why would want to be with somebody whose lifestyle is so radically different from yours?

 

[Tiguere]

Tiguere. Thanks for the shot out and most importantly for giving me credit. I really appreciated that sh*t. Out of all the things that I've posted on the Net, this is the most controversial and the one that gaunders the most responses.

If you google 15 (13 the original was 13 Reasons,) Reasons To Avoid Single Mothers, you'll see the other places where this is on the web. Some dudes straight plagarized my sh*t and claim it for his own. The used it for the topic on an internet show. I have to find the link to the show.

Tiguere, I was trying to find the option to give you some respect points, but I couldn't find it. Where's that option so I can add to your rep.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/reputation.php?p=1767292:woo:

 

[Blackmm]

Add on 3 more reasons:

1. Low relationship contribution potential. Most single women with kids are usually struggling to make ends meet either by working multiple jobs and/or going to school to better their situation. You want someone who brings something to a relationship other than ass.

2. Excuse for failure. How many times have you heard "I was going to be (insert dream career) but when little Johnny came along, all those things (along with my weight management, hygiene and future goals) were put on hold.

3. Loser social circles. Birds of a feather flock together and most of her friends are going to be in the same boat as she is. You don't want to be surrounded by all that broke "poor me" energy, do you?

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

1)Where is the middle ground in dating a single mom?

Not sure what you really mean by this, but I'll assume you're wondering if a single mother can be more than a pump and dump. Remember things are conditional in relation to how they impact your own condition. Most guys don't realize the trap that a single mommy represents while they're ƒucking her. Her subconscious imperative is to secure long term provisioning. Very few single mothers would ever openly acknowledge this considering the underlying stigma they bring upon themselves as a general rule, but it becomes a point of pride for women to adopt the "independent-I-pay-my-own-way" meme that society has built in for them as a fail-safe.

I think most, desperate, guys see single mommies as the low hanging fruit that they are. They are already hypersexual, but this is due to their necessity, so chumps think they've hit the sex jackpot and by becoming more involved than just a ƒuck buddy or STR they tacitly commit to being the support they seek. So the only middle ground really depends on a guy's own conditions. Are you ready to be drawn into this as a life course? Any mother worth having children acknowledges that she can provide a better life for her child in a 2 parent family. Do you want that, or is that your ONLY option?

2) Do they not deserve a second chance?

See above. Only you can decide that for yourself, but one thing you can be absolutely certain of is that she will NEVER openly acknowledge or appreciate you offering her that 2nd chance. You get involved with a single mother, and even part of your own backstory is thinking she'll reciprocate your generosity for giving her a second chance, and you will end up like all the other Cap N Save a Ho, white knights wondering why she thinks she's entitled to your support.

3)IF your wife should cheat why would that be so unforgivable, especially if women are that way from what you say?

Yes. It wouldn't be unforgivable, because I believe in forgiveness, but it would be untenable from the perspective of genuine desire. From that point on any sexual desire would be based on negotiation and obligation, and as you know, that's the death knell of any LTR.