10 SJW Myths That Will Not Die

[Tictac]

I've been called an Uncle Tom my whole life. I wasn't referencing anybody on here at all.

BLM - where you and the other mouth breathers can commiserate endlessly and never have a thought or deal with facts.

 

[Dhoulmagus]

And you and stormfront can do the same

 

[Tictac]

And you and stormfront can do the same

You can infer that I am a racist.

You cannot produce a single word of mine that it's accurate.

Meanwhile everything you post is racist to the core.

 

[SmooveMooves]

Similar being 99% white like 99% black for urban schools. Way to post some source by some controversial figure. I see where you lean now, and that's all I wanted to find out!

Why would the purpose of of the discussion to be to find out where I "lean?" Try refuting arguments as I'm doing you.

For once, I need you to look at the data that is being provided to you and refute that. So what if you deem the figure "controversial." If a Nazi says 2+2 = 4 does that make it wrong because he is a bad person? I gave you data just like you gave me and you didn't refute it. If it's truly wrong data then you should easily be able to poke holes in it.

And stop with the allusions to stormfront, for one, I'm a minority myself. Two, that's extreme nonsensical hyperbole or actually, downright lies. People disagreeing with you does not suddenly make them radical racists. All because people don't want to cry victim "boohoo woe for blacks they're so disadvantaged," they become racist. Your rhetoric is odd.

(After previously complaining of ad hominems) "You guys are closet Stormfront racists. But don't call me a BLM activist because I've been called and Uncle Tom before."

"You guys are gay, but don't call me gay back because I've been called straight before"

How fųcking weird does that sound. Who thinks this way? I think I'm done trying to have a logical debate with you. You're one strange dude.

 

[Tictac]

Why would the purpose of of the discussion to be to find out where I "lean?" Try refuting arguments as I'm doing you.

For once, I need you to look at the data that is being provided to you and refute that. So what if you deem the figure "controversial." If a Nazi says 2+2 = 4 does that make it wrong because he is a bad person? I gave you data just like you gave me and you didn't refute it. If it's truly wrong data then you should easily be able to poke holes in it.

And stop with the allusions to stormfront, for one, I'm a minority myself. Two, that's extreme nonsensical hyperbole or actually, downright lies. People disagreeing does not suddenly make them radical racists. All because people don't want to cry victim "boohoo woe for blacks they're so disadvantaged," they become racist. Your rhetoric is odd.

(After previously complaining of ad hominems) "You guys are closet Stormfront racists. But don't call me a BLM activist because I've been called and Uncle Tom before."

"You guys are gay, but don't call me gay back because I've been called straight before"

How fųcking weird does that sound. Who thinks this way? I think I'm done trying to have a logical debate with you. You're one strange dude.

Be kind to @Dhoulmagus. He's 'special'.

 

[SmooveMooves]

Be kind to @Dhoulmagus. He's 'special'.

Edit: I read your post the wrong way. I thought it said be kind to @ him.

As in notify I was speaking to him.

 

[Tictac]

Edit: I read your post the wrong way. I thought it said be kind to @ him.

As in notify I was speaking to him.

No. He's special as in short bus.

 

[BlueAlpha1]

The only thing left for this black supremacist is to claim black people "can't be racist." Nobody engage him until he answers that question...

 

[Tictac]

The only thing left for this black supremacist is to claim black people "can't be racist." Nobody engage him until he answers that question...

Nobody here is 'engaging' with him anyway. A dead tree has more sense than a supposed human being with a fully closed mind.

 

[Tictac]

So Dhoul,

What is your answer to the problems you cite?

What needs to be done?

He's already typed it a few times. All white Americans have to stop being racists.

Like I said before, I will quit using the race card as a defense when white americans quit being racist. This is a fair and simple deal I think so!

With no sense of irony.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Because they are only 13% of the population and there's a higher quantity percentage of the black race that "ain't shyt" compared to the white race, in terms of the "ain't shyt" group not graduating HS, not acquiring any type of real marketplace skills, having kids before they are able to provide for them, and getting involved in thug lifestyles which eventually SLAPS felonies on your record making it hard to get decent jobs.

Correct, those are the facts. You attribute it to meritocracy. I attribute it to institutionalized racism in housing, schooling, and the criminal justice system. Different interpretation of the same data.

Now, when you respond, tell me specifically what do you disagree about with my analysis. Don't name call, just tell me specifically where you believe I'm wrong with this analysis and we'll keep the convo going from there, deal?

You think black people in general are where they are because of their own doing. I disagree with that,

I'm not a black criminal, I don't sell drugs, use drugs, nor do illegal shyt so I really do not have any interactions with the cops unless I'm getting a speeding ticket (in which case when I'm respectable, they usually let me go with a warning about 75% of the time)

I don't either. What's your point here?

But with that being said, from the study I have done on this, it appears as though young black men are committing crimes at a far higher rate than young white males.

It means young black men are convicted of crimes at a higher rate than young white males. Data shows arrests and convictions.

As a result of this, it could have led to police policing young black men more HARSHLY, profiling them more harshly, as well as Judges judging them more HARSHLY.

Why would police profile black men more harshly than white men for the same crime? Racism.
Why would a judge sentence black men more harshly for the same crime as a white man? Racism.

From my analysis, that's what I'm seeing, but you tell me where you think I'm going wrong with this analysis. Again, no name calling, just specifically tell me where you think I'm wrong here.

You seem to think that Pookie and Ray Ray committing a crime means police should treat Tenacity more harshly than Danger . What the hell do Pookie and Ray Ray have to do with Tenacity other than sharing the same skin color?

That's where you're wrong. You're justifying racism.

I work in the lending industry and I can tell you, a lot of black applicants come in with derogatory credit histories. A lot of times, you don't even see the applicant, the application comes in through an online app and is ran through an automated underwriting system full of pre-set algorithms. Either you fit the criteria for the program or you don't.

Human bias. If Shaquanda and Elizabeth have the same credit score, 9/10 Elizabeth will get the loan.

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My FICO is over 740 and I use a lot of my credit for business related activities. I have no collections, no missed payments, I have a good combination of installment/revolving credit, and low utilization rates. As a result, I've been able to build up my credit line availability total to over $200,000.

And I'm black. But I fit the criteria of the lending program, so that's why I got approved.

Anecdotal fallacy.

Just because your experience is A, doesn't mean B is untrue. Like I said, human biases exist. If a white hiring manager is racist, you won't get the job Tenacity.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Is that your position dhoul? That whites just need to stop being racist and this will fix itself?

Nope. Active structural changes are required in many areas such as housing, health care, education, and police reform.

 

[EyeBRollin]

In what ways? What kind of structural changes in those areas would fix this?

Housing
-Designated affordable housing already exists in many areas. Expand this.

Health Care
-Universal Health Care

Education
-Tuition-free college to public universities

-Fund schools at the state-level and distribute funding based on need to schools that need it.

Criminal Justice
-Decriminalize drugs
-Open more rehabilitation centers
-Establish diversity quotas among police forces, so that they are more representative of their communities. There is no reason in hell police forces in majority-minority areas should be 90+% white, like they are in some places.
-Get rid of mandatory three-strikes sentencing
-Abolish the death penalty
-Independent commissions to review police incidents
-Prohibit employers from considering criminal history on applications (this law already passed in NYC)

If you jokers truly want a meritocracy, this stuff will pass. But we know meritocracy is not the American way; protecting the rich elites is.

There's no cure to racism. All we can do is mitigate institutionalized racism.

 

[Tenacity]

Correct, those are the facts. You attribute it to meritocracy. I attribute it to institutionalized racism in housing, schooling, and the criminal justice system. Different interpretation of the same data.

But I need more information on why you contribute this number to racism, with some sort of data and stats to back it up. The reason being is that if you are RIGHT, we need to do more about this than just discuss it on this forum.

So I need more information on how did you come to this conclusion, with some sort of data, stats, reports, etc. in relation to it. I'll study said material and get back to you within the week.

You think black people in general are where they are because of their own doing. I disagree with that,

I'm going based on HS graduation rates, college graduation rates, majors sought, also the number of black entrepreneurs in the country. I'm also looking at aspects such as the HS drop-out rate, the black single mother on welfare rate, the black man in jail or with a felony rate. I'm looking at all of these things and I'm coming to the conclusion that there's FAR too many blacks making FAR too many piss poor decisions.

This where my conclusions are coming from. They are not coming from my representation of any white supremacy nor me trying to "fit in" with people on this forum (I've gotten into it heavily with a lot of people responding, like TicTac for example).

If I'm wrong, I will come right back to this forum and say I was wrong. So I would like for you to provide more information on your conclusion. I tried this with Max Rex, all the guy did was call me every Coon/Uncle Tom in the book....I'm just trying to have a conversation with you guys because hell, if I'm WRONG, I want to fvcking know.

But if you are WRONG, then it would be best that these theories stop being promoted.

We both can't be right, somebody has to be wrong here........we need to figure out who is.

It means young black men are convicted of crimes at a higher rate than young white males. Data shows arrests and convictions.

Let me see the data you are referring to.

Why would police profile black men more harshly than white men for the same crime? Racism.
Why would a judge sentence black men more harshly for the same crime as a white man? Racism.

Well, that's subjective...can we agree on that? It COULD be Racism, it COULD also be that they are seeing the same data I'm seeing where black men are doing more of the crimes and they are just coming down harder on them in relation to that.

You seem to think that Pookie and Ray Ray committing a crime means police should treat Tenacity more harshly than Danger . What the hell do Pookie and Ray Ray have to do with Tenacity other than sharing the same skin color?

That's where you're wrong. You're justifying racism.

But here's the thing though, the police aren't fvcking with Tenacity. My only interactions with the cops are when I'm speeding down the road, usually I get off with a warning. Pookie and Ray Ray are doing illegal shyt all day/everyday, because they are living a thug lifestyle. When you live a thug lifestyle full of illegal shyt, in combination with police departments looking to crack down on the shyt by deliberating targeting black men who LOOK LIKE they are doing this shyt....it's a recipe for disaster.

Can we agree on that?

- You are making the case that a law-abiding black man, minding his own business sitting on a bench reading the Wallstreet Journal, is all of a sudden smacked upside the head by a cop and told to lay on the ground.

- You are making the case that a law-abiding black man is driving along the road and is pulled over for speeding. And the cop just starts beating the fvck out of him for no reason because he's black, even if said black man is respectable, not running from the cops, not riding dirty, or anything of the sort to create said situation. Your argument is that just being black PERIOD, causes the cop to start beating your a.ss.

I just have not experienced anything like that man. I'm going to need more examples from you of law-abiding black people, just randomly getting their a.ss beat by the cops for no reason. Please show it to me......

Human bias. If Shaquanda and Elizabeth have the same credit score, 9/10 Elizabeth will get the loan.

Just because your experience is A, doesn't mean B is untrue. Like I said, human biases exist. If a white hiring manager is racist, you won't get the job Tenacity.

Can you prove this? Tenacity not getting the job COULD have been Racism, it could have also been that I wasn't qualified for the job and/or someone else was more qualified, or the hiring manager decided to give preferred treatment to his nephew who was also interviewing for the job. It could have been ANY of these things, how do you know SPECIFICALLY that it was Racism?

 

[Tictac]

Housing
-Designated affordable housing already exists in many areas. Expand this.

Health Care
-Universal Health Care

Education
-Tuition-free college to public universities

-Fund schools at the state-level and distribute funding based on need to schools that need it.

Criminal Justice
-Decriminalize drugs
-Open more rehabilitation centers
-Establish diversity quotas among police forces, so that they are more representative of their communities. There is no reason in hell police forces in majority-minority areas should be 90+% white, like they are in some places.
-Get rid of mandatory three-strikes sentencing
-Abolish the death penalty
-Independent commissions to review police incidents
-Prohibit employers from considering criminal history on applications (this law already passed in NYC)

If you jokers truly want a meritocracy, this stuff will pass. But we know meritocracy is not the American way; protecting the rich elites is.

There's no cure to racism. All we can do is mitigate institutionalized racism.

With no regard whatever as to how this stuff will be paid for. NONE.

The War on poverty has already spent somewhere between $15,000,000,000,000 and $20,000,000,000,000 and produced what? Mostly a huge permanent underclass. Failure of this magnitude is rare in the world.

It is an incontrovertible fact that poverty fell faster from 1950 to 1965 (before the War on Poverty) then it did from 1965 to 1980 and after.

And you want more and more for what? More failure and an even larger dependent class.

And unless you can say how this will be paid for (and I don't mean Bernie Sanders fairy dust tax/spending "plan"), get lost.

Congress and the White House can pretend that passing laws and mandating unfunded programs is okay. But if you count yourself as a person with an IQ over room temperature, you can't.

 

[Tenacity]

Housing
-Designated affordable housing already exists in many areas. Expand this.

But who controls the housing market? Don't the people who own the property as well as the state of the surrounding area help determine what the purchase price of said property is going to be? You want the government to control this? That's promoting STRAIGHT communism (not even socialism), sir. What does that have to do with racism? That's a difference in political policy.

Health Care
-Universal Health Care

Education
-Tuition-free college to public universities

-Fund schools at the state-level and distribute funding based on need to schools that need it.

Both of these are promoting socialism, what does that have to do with racism? That's a difference in political policy.

Criminal Justice
-Decriminalize drugs

ALL drugs?? Or just weed?

-Open more rehabilitation centers
-Establish diversity quotas among police forces, so that they are more representative of their communities. There is no reason in hell police forces in majority-minority areas should be 90+% white, like they are in some places.
-Independent commissions to review police incidents

I agree 100%.

-Get rid of mandatory three-strikes sentencing
-Abolish the death penalty

I disagree. I support these. They help criminals stop being lifetime criminals.

-Prohibit employers from considering criminal history on applications (this law already passed in NYC)

I don't agree with this at all. So you want someone coming to your house to sell you financial services who has a felony on his record in relation to previous financial service fraud? You want THIS person to have access to your SSN, DOB, bank statements, etc.?

 

[speed dawg]

Dhoul,

You never answered my question. What needs to be done to fix the alleged structural racism against blacks?

Why do you waste your time?

You know you are right, I know you are right, Dhoulfungus and Eyeballfondler know you are right. It ain't never been about facts.

The reason I ask you specifically is because you go above and beyond with the facts. I think Tictac has taken the right angle, just make fun of them until they lose interest.

 

[Tictac]

Why do you waste your time?

You know you are right, I know you are right, Dhoulfungus and Eyeballfondler know you are right. It ain't never been about facts.

The reason I ask you specifically is because you go above and beyond with the facts. I think Tictac has taken the right angle, just make fun of them until they lose interest.

You can't take those guys seriously. "Because I typed it" is their standard of truth.

And dhoulmaggot is just a serial liar.

 

[Tenacity]

Guys, I honestly think they believe their stances are the truth lol.

It's why I try to sit down and have a conversation with them, because we BOTH can't be right. Somebody has got to be wrong, and whomever is wrong should be proven, shown and brought to the forefront....so corrections in thinking can be made.

But it's hard to have a conversation because the moment you take a stance against their narrative, they just call you names and refuse to have a discussion. Just like being a black guy that votes Republican, nobody even wants to understand WHY I'm voting Republican, they just immediately jump to calling names like Coon, Sambo and Uncle Tom.

I personally believe we are being ripped off with a Global NWO of Central Bankers, Big Business, Big Government and Big Media, all in bed with each other and screwing over everybody else.

While we sit here arguing back and forth with each other, demonizing each other over Democrat v.s. Republican, or "Systematic Racism", we are ALL in this fight together against this new Class War Era that we have been in, since at least 1975.

The Global NWO wants you to think it's still about racism, they want you to think there's a real difference between a Democrat or a Republican, they want you to think there's a real difference between Hillary or Trump......it's a distraction to keep us fighting EACH OTHER rather than the REAL ENEMY.

 

[Tictac]

Guys, I honestly think they believe their stances are the truth lol.

It's why I try to sit down and have a conversation with them, because we BOTH can't be right. Somebody has got to be wrong, and whomever is wrong should be proven, shown and brought to the forefront....so corrections in thinking can be made.

But it's hard to have a conversation because the moment you take a stance against their narrative, they just call you names and refuse to have a discussion. Just like being a black guy that votes Republican, nobody even wants to understand WHY I'm voting Republican, they just immediately jump to calling names like Coon, Sambo and Uncle Tom.

I personally believe we are being ripped off with a Global NWO of Central Bankers, Big Business, Big Government and Big Media, all in bed with each other and screwing over everybody else.

While we sit here arguing back and forth with each other, demonizing each other over Democrat v.s. Republican, or "Systematic Racism", we are ALL in this fight together against this new Class War Era that we have been in, since at least 1975.

The Global NWO wants you to think it's still about racism, they want you to think there's a real difference between a Democrat or a Republican, they want you to think there's a real difference between Hillary or Trump......it's a distraction to keep us fighting EACH OTHER rather than the REAL ENEMY.

When a guy calls me a racist and then pitifully, post after post, tries to smear me and cannot produce a single phrase I've written that backs up his charge, I am done trying to talk.

He's pathetic, serial liar and I have no use for him.