★ Vice's Highly NSFW Journal Thread [Warning: Explicit Content] ★

[Vice]

So, after meeting the hottest girl I've ever been with almost two years ago and then breaking up with her a few months ago, Vice is back.

And he's kind of a newbie again.

I went from this two years ago:

As for my game, I've been getting closer and closer to getting laid, and from there I'll be working on consistency. Last weekend I brought a girl back to my car and almost drove off, had there not been a police car behind me (I had a drink a few hours prior but I didn't want to risk it) and her gay friend pulling up and collecting her.

...to not being able to kiss a girl at the end of a date I had LAST NIGHT.

So in this thread we will be able to track my progress to how I used to be: able to approach, get physical quickly, and have awesome results. This is my new official journal. I'd keep an eye on it; I'll be dropping lots of material that you usually have to pay for in order to help my progress.

For now, I'd recommend those who are interested in a good read on how I turned myself from a lame video game player to a stud to check out my old journal for some awesome insight and inspiration.

At this point in my game I still hesitate to do certain approaches, and I'm sporadically getting physical in those approaches. But it improves each day. I have been working out and I'm getting better looking each day; I just need to work on my willpower and avoid eating Subway and Taco Bell once every few days. My local area is VERY target rich, so I believe my success rate will be of epic proportions once I build up some momentum.

 

[Vice]

(kindof) LAY REPORT

Starting to get over the fear of kissing a girl... again. I remember I was getting makeouts consistently in the prime of my game. I hate having to live in the past, but comparing myself to my past is better than comparing myself to someone else. Plus since I've been there before, the old neural pathways will light off once again faster than when it initially took to place them in. Imagine your neural pathways like a pathway through a field. You crossed over the same path every day for years, and created a trail. Then you went away for two years, and nature took back the path. You come back and the path is overgrown, but traces of it are still there. All it takes is a few walks and you're back in business.

Anyway, about that girl I didn't kiss on our date. I invited her to an art opening that night, and she was dressed cute (small black dress, little blazer, high heels, etc). Didn't pull the trigger and saw the "window" for a split second and realized the mistake right away. You've got to take a few punches before you realize how to handle the situation next, you know?

So the following Friday I had to leave town for the weekend for side job stuff. I text her and she invites me to her apartment. Stayed about an hour, talked, little kino, little bit of physical escalation. Took her outside to show her how to ride a skateboard. It was cold, she was shivering, and she was grabbing on to me and stuff. I ended up kissing her as I left. It really wasn't that bad, I didn't know what I was afraid of.

I returned to town on Sunday; I called her Saturday and pretty much told her to make me dinner for when I got back. When I showed up she made undercooked spaghetti with some alfredo sauce LOL. We ate, then talked on the couch. I kissed her a few times. I'd then start making out with her and then when I'd stop I would IMMEDIATELY resume the conversation like nothing happened.

Then the makeouts would get more and more intense, and soon we were really at it. Picked her up, and carried her into the bedroom. No sex ended up happening, but it was cool. I wasn't needy, and handled her LMR perfectly. If I was persistent I am sure it could have happened, but during one of her LMR cycles I ended up falling asleep LOL. We spent the night together and that was that.

Before I left I told her, "I can't wait to see you in the hallway before class and talk to you as if nothing happened here." She smiled. I like to keep things discreet.

Until next time. Fade to black...

 

[BraddH]

Im getting excited! Keep on posting.

 

[Vice]

Starting to get more aggressive towards women. Both physically, mentally, and socially.

Dropping the "niceness" a few notches and starting to incorporate "assh*le game". That means messing with women almost all the time. Subtly making fun of them in a manner that amuses ME (they don't have to get it).

Considering next time I go to the gay club, when a girl asks me if I'm straight I'll IMMEDIATELY respond with "Are you bisexual?". If the answer is "no", I'll say "Straight girls are so stupid/silly/retarded. Not good enough." And just walk away.

If they say "yes", I'll tell them that playing mock bisexual to get their attention fix from lame ass guys at straight clubs doesn't count. And then immediately rag on them for not being perceptive enough to tell why I'm at a gay bar.

Doing this puts THEM on the defensive and also puts me in control of the situation. I'm tired of explaining to girls why I'm at a gay club and I'd rather just f*ck with their emotions instead of being the "nice, safe straight guy" at the gay club. I want them to want me to f*ck them in the bathroom.

 

[Bokanovsky]

Considering next time I go to the gay club, when a girl asks me if I'm straight I'll IMMEDIATELY respond with "Are you bisexual?". If the answer is "no", I'll say "Straight girls are so stupid/silly/retarded. Not good enough." And just walk away.

If they say "yes", I'll tell them that playing mock bisexual to get their attention fix from lame ass guys at straight clubs doesn't count. And then immediately rag on them for not being perceptive enough to tell why I'm at a gay bar.

Doing this puts THEM on the defensive and also puts me in control of the situation. I'm tired of explaining to girls why I'm at a gay club and I'd rather just f*ck with their emotions instead of being the "nice, safe straight guy" at the gay club. I want them to want me to f*ck them in the bathroom.

I'm assuming that posting this thread is your way of coming out? As if the pink font wasn't suggestive enough, you are telling us that you frequent gay clubs and pretend to be bisexual? If you like sausage, you might as well admit it. No need to pretend that you go to gay clubs to "pick up women".

 

[Vice]

I'm assuming that posting this thread is your way of coming out? As if the pink font wasn't suggestive enough, you are telling us that you frequent gay clubs and pretend to be bisexual? If you like sausage, you might as well admit it. No need to pretend that you go to gay clubs to "pick up women".

I'm accusing THEM of playing mock bisexual. Read the post again.

Purple font 'cause I do what the f*ck I want.

Ditto for going to gay clubs to pick up chicks. It's not the only venue I frequent, but it's certainly the one that people are the most reactive to.

 

[Vice]

LAY REPORT

Finally slept with that girl I chumped out of kissing. I texted her "Making dinner. Want some" and she texted back that she was with friends at dinner, but wanted to know what I was doing later. Ended up coming to her place at 11pm. We talked about our crappy days, then made her give me a massage on her bed. I told her "no weird stuff tonight I'm really tired" and then told her "I probably couldn't even get it up". So we gave each other massages and fooled around for a bit before I suddenly had my brain go into full reptile mode and got excited. Fade to black...

I'm starting to realize that if a girl likes you, she'll make it easy for you. This is my 9th or 10th girl I've slept with (I don't keep official count, I'd have to sit down and think about it. The actual number is irrelevant outside of ego gratification and trying to get guys to think I'm cool) so you figure I'd know this better by now. Took me a month and a half since moving to a new town to have this happen. Not too bad considering I broke up with my exgf two months ago, and that it took me 4-6 months to find my exgf since the girl before that. Then again, the area that I live in is more target rich.

I need to scale back on chasing girls and get my life together. I've started mildly neglecting school, my finances, and my health to varying degrees. That means SIT DOWN and study. I need to work on creating a lifestyle that brings girls to me, instead of me going out to them as the case is with bars. That means if I study, I study in a public place. Preferably using the techniques outlined in RooshV's book "Day Bang". This concept is also explored in RSD's program by Tim called "The Flawless Natural".

Need to get back to eating healthy and buying real food, not Subway or Taco Bell. Need to get back in the gym; I haven't been since last week, and I can feel the difference already.

I have another pair of college girls I met who seem down to meet me. I also have two other girls that I'm friends with that'll hook me up with college parties. Thus is the fruit of my labor: connections.

Now that I've "got" this girl I can focus on the other aspects of my life. Which, ironically, means that I'll get more women.

 

[Vice]

Song of the night: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRiULBkv6VE

Went out last night with the FB/FWB. Took her to the gay club, it was her first time at one. Wanted to test the waters to see if she had any bi tendencies; the seed is there. I'm sure she'll open up if drunk enough, with the right girl. Saw only a few cuties. Ended up staying the night at her place doing bad things to her.

I did see this tall girl I've had my eye on last night. I see her at the gay clubs every once in a while, and she's cute. I'll approach her next time I see her, I think she just hangs out with her gay friend.

Going to a big art reception tonight. The theme? Sex. www.nudenite.com

Should be an interesting time. After that bouncing to the club.

Got one plate spinning. Feels good; starting to build my confidence back up. Starting to play that "assh*le game".

Starting to realize that I'm a good looking guy, and that game isn't really as necessary as it would be for guys that don't have looks going for them. The guy I hang out with mentioned that the reason why one of the girls started acting weird around me was because she was intimidated by me and my style. I'm very commanding and arrogant. That explained quite a bit. She frequents the gay bar on Tuesday nights, so one of these days if I run into her I'll have a chat. I'll ask her if I intimidate her and then watch her melt when I kiss her. Drag her to the bathroom and have my way with her.

 

[Vice]

Last night was bizarre and very eye opening to how the hookup scene really is.

Me and my buddy (side note: this guy has slept with over 40 women) started off by going to Nude Nite. It wasn't worth the $25 cover; the crowd was pretentious and filled with those annoying equestrian-obsessed mid-age housewives that wear riding boots, True Religion jeans, excessive makeup, and some trendy top in an effort to stay relevant in the sexual market. You know, the kind with rich husbands they cheat on frequently.

Anyway, I got TONS of inspiration for when I eventually start painting. Nothing helps get a girl's mind to sex faster than some smutty modern painting YOU created hanging up on your wall. It might have been worth the $25. There were live exhibits, so there were topless girls dressed up in elaborate costumes and there was even a mild **** performance involving rope that I didn't watch because I'm not into that sh*t.

We ended up bouncing to the gay club, which had its typical amount of cute girls. Got eye f*cked ALOT tonight, by both genders. Nice ego boost. Had a few drinks and started talking to everyone. Spent a little too much time with my friend though, but we just met each other and had quite a bit of ground to cover in terms of talking about philosophy, picking up girls, finances, life, etc. Made out with one girl after like 20 minutes of conversation (I'm still nervous and getting my "edge" back).

Later I ended up walking past this girl and her gay friend and he hit on me. I walked past him but turned around and engaged by saying "Sorry dude, I'm straight" and he said "We know, you're awkward as f*ck". I immediately knew what was going on and grabbed the girl and walked off with her. He wasn't too thrilled about being left alone, so he grabbed her back. We chatted for a bit more and he grabbed her phone and forced me to put my number into it; he wanted to hit on some dude I guess. I punched it in and then grabbed the girl and LIFTED HER UP ON MY SHOULDER and started to walk off, and then I feel my balance shift: the guy was trying to pull the girl off me. I struggled a bit but had to put her down (I'm tall so that could have been a disaster LOL). I could tell she loved it. The guy walked off with her shaking his head while she looked back at me with sultry eyes.

I found my friend as it was almost time to leave. He was eying a cutie at the bar, but she had a fattie friend. We executed a PERFECT approach after I laid out my little "battle plan"; we walk up, initiate the conversation, I distract fattie, and he closes. He kiss closed and number closed her, and she was calling him later that night when we were back at his girlfriends apartment.

We ended up going back to his girlfriends apartment (same girl that LJBFed me because she was protecting her ego because she couldn't manipulate me like she can with my friend). I was hoping her roommate would be at the apartment so I could f*ck her, but she was at some guy's house that night, so I ended up crashing on the couch and listening to my friend f*ck his girlfriend LOL.

Side note: that's karma coming back in a mild fashion. Two years ago when I first met my exgf, the sh*t we did was like something you'd read in Penthouse Letters. Public sex, rooftop sex, sex in alleyways, etc. Anyway we were on our way to a concert, and we were both drunk as hell in the backseat of my car while my friend drove. She squirts like a porn star, especially when drunk. So we're getting into it and I'm fingering her and she is just squirting ALL OVER THE INSIDE OF THE CAR. She was screaming and squirting c*m everywhere. I'm pretty sure some got on my friend. The back seat was soaked and so was her dress and panties.

So listening to people having rather mild sex wasn't that big of a deal, especially after making out with some chick and getting a hot phone number. The girl I threw over my shoulder texted me at 5am; I was sleeping. What's up with that? Anyway, hopefully I'll see her again soon. This thread has more haters than lay reports.

 

[Vice]

Ended up almost hooking up with my friend's girlfriend's roommate. We all hung out at the bar/club and me and her were verbally sparring/flirting all night. On the walk to the bar I would push her into things and try to give her a flat tire. My "game" has essentially become being a 5 year old boy again. I would also wander off and talk to other girls. We bounced to another bar and I started pointing out other guys and told her that she loved them. I would offer to introduce them to her and she would playfully laugh and say "Nooooo!". I ended up giving her a quick kiss when I saw the window of opportunity, which showed up after I did something similar to this.

On the drunken walk back home I accidentally called my friends gf a c*nt, and his gf and her roommate heard it. His gf got in my face about it when we got home, but I ended up defusing the situation and working things out.

Her roommate had already gone to bed, and I was supposed to crash on the couch. I was alone in the living room, and I didn't really know what to do. I just kissed the girl, and she was in her bedroom. "Oh well", I thought, as I walked up to her door and knocked. I realized last night that you don't really need even a good reason to go into her room; just a reason. Assuming she's into you, of course. I sat down on the edge of the bed while she was laying down. I ended up talking to her about the c*nt thing initially, and then about other nonsense, and before I knew it, we were kissing again. I realized that she liked me by the fact that I was in her bedroom on the side of her bed at 3am and she was wearing just panties and a t shirt. Come on. I had to go to the bathroom and when I came back she put on pajamas. Anti sl*t defense? Whatever. We kept fooling around and I got her shirt off, took mine off.

I am SUPER dominant when intimate with women I like, so I was throwing her around and pulling her hair and moving her head where I wanted it. She was really tired and had to go to work in the morning, so I didn't press for sex. I know she'll fantasize about it later on. It'll eventually happen between us.

 

[Dgwizdal]

Song of the night: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRiULBkv6VE

This song fvcking blows.

 

[Vice]

This song fvcking blows.

Thanks for the input bro.

What's with all these butthurt users on here finding petty things about me to remark on? All because PHM got banned? Go out and post the field report. Tossers.

 

[BraddH]

You are fvcking interesting. Love your posts. Keep em coming.

 

[Watawata]

nice journal bro, keep it up.

 

[Vice]

Frustrated lately.

Called a few girls yesterday. No call back.

Set up to stay the night at the plate's house. No call yet. I don't even want to stay over at her place tonight; I'm so butthurt and enraged that it would be better to sleep at home. We'll see what she says if she calls.

Wasted Friday night sleeping. Saturday night was also wasted on chasing my friend's girlfriend's roommate. They ended up picking us all up from the club we were at because everyone was too drunk to drive (my f*cking designated driver/wingman failed in that department). My friend's friend and his girlfriend went along too, and we all crashed at my wingman's girlfriend's apartment. I was going to sleep in her roommate's bed since the other two were in the living room, but when I got in she claimed to be too tired and wanted the girl to sleep in the bed with her. I realized she was being serious and got up and left without a word, JUST as the other girl was on the way to her room. Saved myself an awkward exchange.

Then instead of crashing on the couch, I just walked out the apartment drunk. Walked around downtown in a rage, couldn't get any Subway, and ended up settling for some crappy 7 Eleven sub and a bag of chips. The girl sent me a text on how I wasn't a bad person but she was going to do the best thing for herself. I replied with something along the lines of "Go to sleep grumpy" and a text I wish I could take back: "Yeah and friends are over- not discreet", which insinuated that I expected sex from her. (Last Wednesday night I hung out with her and her roommate's bf who is also my wing. We ended up kissing at the bar and then fooling around at the apartment. I only got as far as getting her top off) Sobered up and drove home.

Exchanged a few apologetic texts, and invited her to hang out tomorrow, but she didn't reply to inviting her out. F*ck her. Seriously. She's too much of a challenge to go after, especially with her looks not being that great. I don't even want to crash on their couch anymore, which means I really need to watch my alcohol when I'm with my wing. Worst case, I'll sleep in the car.

So this weekend plus tonight are rejections, along with not having any of my calls answered.

But there is one girl that invited me out to a party, so I have that going. Plus she's cute, and apologized when she flaked on going out to an amateur comedy night. Plus I have an old flame coming into town this week, so we'll see what happens. There's also this cute girl that I see at the club that occasionally goes, but last time her gay friend kept dragging her around because I guess he needed to be with another person to not look lame.

OH, and there was also the 2-3 girls I made out with this weekend at the club.

Despite all of this, I can feel the fury building. The fury that will motivate me to step the f*ck up and be more aggressive in going after what I want. I'd say this is a pretty good reaction to rejection and lack of perceived success. I also need to keep in mind that this "crap" weekend by my standards would be considered a killer weekend by some users here. Need to remember the advice RSD gives: focus on your successes, not your failures.

 

[Tarfun]

Loving the journal Vice

 

[Vice]

LAY REPORT

Finally had sex with a girl I met FOUR YEARS AGO. I was at Starbucks, and she was a barista. I was dressed well, studying my job material, and she came up to me on her break and asked how my drink was. I got the hint back then that she was interested, and that's how we me. Won't go into too much detail, but we've kissed before and fooled around, but never had sex.

So anyway, she was in town and invited me to her hotel room to hang out. I got there and we caught up on what's been going on in our lives, and I ended up staying the night because it was late and it was a long drive home. I didn't really try anything besides snuggle up next to her confidently. I knew we were going to have sex; I just wanted to tease her a little. Plus I had a test at school that morning and didn't want to be tired.

So I left that morning, and came back later that night and had a few drinks with her at the bar. She bought them all for me using her company's credit card, and when the bar closed we headed back to her room. I kissed her as soon as we got in and threw her on the bed, with all the sexual tension over the years and last 24 hours boiling over.

I finally took inventory and realized she was my 11th girl I've slept with. That's two girls in one month as well, something I've never done before. Goes to show what happens when you consistently work on this area of your life.

Girl number 12 might be this girl that invited me to a party tonight (Friday). We like each other, so I'm sure it'll happen some day, if not tonight. Then there's still Saturday. And this girl at the gay bar gives me f*ck me eyes every time I see her, but her gay friend is SUPER protective of her. And there's a few girls at school I see walking around I'm planning to cold approach. And there's another girl at school I've made friends with who has that fake ass red hair I love.

Been managing my time more effectively at school, as well as business. I'm getting my sh*t together.

 

[Vice]

Hung out with these two college girls last night. Things got suggestive very quick.

I met them like two weeks ago when I was doing some basic BMX tricks at the college campus and we started chatting. Talked about sex VERY quickly, got their number and didn't hang out until last night.

Anyway she had an essay to do, so I was just hanging out with her friend. We had some banter going on, and I would pull her hair and "discipline her" when she got too fiesty by tapping her on the head like she was a bad cat. She kept biting me and all kinds of fun stuff. The girl I was after finally finished her essay, and we all just hung out in her room. I kept getting threesome vibes LOL. One thing I did was talk about how big I was and how little she was, and decided to compare jaws, so I flipped my head upside down and we rubbed our jaws together. It aroused her a little because of my stubble, and she said "That's a good way to get a girl to kiss you." I told her I was tempted lol but she had a bf.

Anyway I hung out with those two for several hours, then their friends arrived, and then they finally left. Me and her eventually got alone, and we were massaging each other at like 5AM. We moved to the bed and I gave her a massage on her bed and got her SUPER aroused, where to she finally flipped over after I started kissing her neck and collarbone and all over her body. She wouldn't kiss me on the lips though, so I just kept kissing her all over body and rubbing my hands over her body. She was moaning and pushing her hips against me.

Then when she got really bothered she rolled to the side and started crying. I pulled back immediately, confused, and then realized it was probably about the boyfriend (it was). I told her it was okay and we probably shouldn't be doing this and that I should just go. She wanted me to stay, so I just laid next to her and talked.

I didn't really care if I got laid or not, because my FB wanted to hang out the next day, so I was not needy. I told her that it wasn't a big deal because we would both leave the situation win-win (we both got a nice massage). She thought it was going to be a lose-lose situation because she would have left with a "broken heart" and I would have left with blue balls. I told her I didn't really care about getting off, and if I needed to take care of myself in that way I could probably do it better than she could, and vice versa. Shortly after saying that she grabbed my hand and put it down her pants LOL.

What ended up happening was I just fingered her heavily and had her taste herself. I tried to have sex with her but she kept stopping me. I didn't really care so I just stopped. We ended up sleeping together for a few hours and when I left in the morning she told me not to tell anyone about what happened.

 

[Vice]

REGRESSION!

After a pretty nice run, I've regressed back into slight anxiety towards approaching new women. I'm also VERY tired of the gay club scene, and now I'm more interested in hot hipster, scene chicks, and rocker chicks. So that means a change in my primary venues.

So for the next two months I'm going to hang out in places that these types of girls go to. I'm not a fan of the hot pants and pixie cuts that these girls tend to sport, but it gives me a conversation starter, and if the girl has a nice body I can convince her to grow her hair out and change her wardrobe a little bit.

But right now is Spring Break, so most of the college kids are gone, and I also have to spend some time out of town, so it looks like I'll be trying out suit game for the first time.

 

[:-)]

i have yet to meet a girl who has the first clue about cars let alone what year it is and how much it cost.