“Women will cry a river about wanting Mr. Dependable and then go off to fuc.k Mr. Exciting.” - Rollo Tomassi, “The Rational Male”

[self_is_an_illusion]

Source: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/90...t=Women will cry a river,pill , relationships
I found this to be so true. When women are tired of their current boyfriends they start talking to other guys to get that excitement back. Sometimes the staleness and stagnation that comes with an LTR can be a killer so make sure if you have a girlfriend that you keep things interesting and sexual as much as possible because she will get that excitement from someone else.

 

[SW15]

It was true in 2013 when "The Rational Male" was published and still true in 2023.

 

[zekko]

Meh. If this happens the girl is a dirtbag, and not LTR material. Now admittedly, there are a lot of dirtbags out there, but they're still not LTR material. Which is not to say you should slack off and take things for granted.

 

[Pandora]

Meh. If this happens the girl is a dirtbag, and not LTR material. Now admittedly, there are a lot of dirtbags out there, but they're still not LTR material. Which is not to say you should slack off and take things for granted.

2 years ago I would not have agreed with this. I agree with this now. Most people have not done the work not to be a dirtbag. The issues we run into is because we are dealing with un healed people. We are trying to get into relationships with people that have a lot of baggage.

 

[BadBoy89]

2013? I knew this in 1992.

It’s been said 1,000 times before; “dualistic mating strategy”

Sex and babies from the Alpha
Resources and Money from the Beta

 

[mbc0029]

Mr. Dependable (Beta Bucks)

Mr. Exciting (Alpha ****s)


It seems the nuts and bolts never change.

 

[soulforge]

2 years ago I would not have agreed with this. I agree with this now. Most people have not done the work not to be a dirtbag. The issues we run into is because we are dealing with un healed people. We are trying to get into relationships with people that have a lot of baggage.

Damaged chicks with a high notch count will cheat. You can only keep things exciting to a degree.

 

[soulforge]

The question is, in 2023 is it even worth it to be the good Alpha type of guy?

Considering most women are damaged to chit these days & a product of a single mother upbringing.

Why even bother to be the good guy?

I mean think about this.

Pretty much all women are temporary these days. It's only your turn with them.

If you're the good guy, the strong alpha, you might get lucky and squeeze 1-2 years of a relationship out of her.

If you're the Jerk, treats her bad, sometimes neglectful kind of guy, you will more than likely squeeze the prime years out of her, maybe 5-8 years.

Who is the winner or loser here?

The jerk wins every time.

I mean both dudes will lose her in the end, but the Jerk gets the most milage out of her.

 

[Pandora]

Damaged chicks with a high notch count will cheat. You can only keep things exciting to a degree.

Very true. This is the majority of Gen Z women worldwide actually.

 

[soulforge]

Very true. This is the majority of Gen Z women worldwide actually.

Yeh I mean to keep things exciting constantly for a chick over many years isn't even possible, when she has access to exciting chads on her phone 24/7

 

[Millard Fillmore]

This is like the male version of Madonna/Wh0re polarity.

 

[Manure Spherian]

A pertinent listen.

There are four parts but I linked only the first.

 

[pipeman84]

Why even bother to be the good guy?

At the end of the day, everyone, both men and women will be who they really are.

If you're the good guy, the strong alpha, you might get lucky and squeeze 1-2 years of a relationship out of her.

If you're the Jerk, treats her bad, sometimes neglectful kind of guy, you will more than likely squeeze the prime years out of her, maybe 5-8 years.

Who is the winner or loser here?

The jerk wins every time.

I mean both dudes will lose her in the end, but the Jerk gets the most milage out of her.

If you're the good guy, you'll be able to spot a good woman and have a drama free, long lasting relationship with her. If you're the jerk you'll attract all sorts of hoes full of baggage that will make your life miserable ... that doesn't sound like a winning proposition to me.

 

[self_is_an_illusion]

2 years ago I would not have agreed with this. I agree with this now. Most people have not done the work not to be a dirtbag. The issues we run into is because we are dealing with un healed people. We are trying to get into relationships with people that have a lot of baggage.

So true bro. That all too important pus.sy can make a man go blind.

The question is, in 2023 is it even worth it to be the good Alpha type of guy?

Considering most women are damaged to chit these days & a product of a single mother upbringing.

Why even bother to be the good guy?

I mean think about this.

Pretty much all women are temporary these days. It's only your turn with them.

If you're the good guy, the strong alpha, you might get lucky and squeeze 1-2 years of a relationship out of her.

If you're the Jerk, treats her bad, sometimes neglectful kind of guy, you will more than likely squeeze the prime years out of her, maybe 5-8 years.

Who is the winner or loser here?

The jerk wins every time.

I mean both dudes will lose her in the end, but the Jerk gets the most milage out of her.

Holy s.hit what an amazing response

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Depends on a lot of things.

I would say this is only the case if the other guy is Mr. Boring, not Mr. Dependable.

Dependable and Exciting aren't mutually exclusive, you could be both. Or at least exciting enough that she won't want to look elsewhere.

Now if you are boring, hell yeah...no woman wants to sit around and watch TV all night and not go out and do something at least some of the time.

Also likely means the guy is not great in the bedroom either.

 

[soulforge]

You don't need to be a good guy nor a jerk. Being a normal person works fine. Trying to be a jerk thinking you'll get more women is pathetic, the opposite is also true.

Being the jerk in order to get MORE women is not what I am talking about.

I am simply stating that the Jerk/Narc/Fuk Boy overall seems to get the most millage out of the girl.

How many times has a chick told you that her ex was a Narc, an azzhole etc.. You then proceed to ask her, how long she stayed with him, guaranteed it will be something like 10 years and 3 kids later.

You take the average good guy, who has alpha traits, I doubt he can squeeze 2 years out of these modern woman.

 

[Robert28]

I’m fine being boring with my boring life.

 

[Gamisch]

The question is, in 2023 is it even worth it to be the good Alpha type of guy?

Considering most women are damaged to chit these days & a product of a single mother upbringing.

Why even bother to be the good guy?

I mean think about this.

Pretty much all women are temporary these days. It's only your turn with them.

If you're the good guy, the strong alpha, you might get lucky and squeeze 1-2 years of a relationship out of her.

If you're the Jerk, treats her bad, sometimes neglectful kind of guy, you will more than likely squeeze the prime years out of her, maybe 5-8 years.

Who is the winner or loser here?

The jerk wins every time.

I mean both dudes will lose her in the end, but the Jerk gets the most milage out of her.

Being the jerk in order to get MORE women is not what I am talking about.

I am simply stating that the Jerk/Narc/Fuk Boy overall seems to get the most millage out of the girl.

How many times has a chick told you that her ex was a Narc, an azzhole etc.. You then proceed to ask her, how long she stayed with him, guaranteed it will be something like 10 years and 3 kids later.

You take the average good guy, who has alpha traits, I doubt he can squeeze 2 years out of these modern woman.

I kinda agree with your sentiment , but one thing a lotta men underestimate ( and MUST burn into their memories!!) is the fact that women LOVE to play the victim whenever they can. Their minds are hard wired to act and stay within this victimhood AND the most important aspect is that: her female friends, familiy members NEW ORBITING MEN will ALL pick her side...ONLY a (subconsciously ) redpill aware dude will see through this bs..

The question is, in 2023 is it even worth it to be the good Alpha type of guy?

Considering most women are damaged to chit these days & a product of a single mother upbringing.

Why even bother to be the good guy?

I mean think about this.

Pretty much all women are temporary these days. It's only your turn with them.

If you're the good guy, the strong alpha, you might get lucky and squeeze 1-2 years of a relationship out of her.

If you're the Jerk, treats her bad, sometimes neglectful kind of guy, you will more than likely squeeze the prime years out of her, maybe 5-8 years.

Who is the winner or loser here?

The jerk wins every time.

I mean both dudes will lose her in the end, but the Jerk gets the most milage out of her.

Yes. Again a rather kumbaya kinda repsonse, but I do believe that you can be both the super hero and the villain..

Most "heroes " we grew up with were narcs/jerks/ evil enough to slap/ torture/ kill a man without any hesitation. Even if and when they were the "good guys ".

You just don't wanna be this bluepilled beta bytch who refuses to acknowledge all these harsh truths..but i kinda geuss that we've spent WAY too much time studying game and women to ever go back to becoming fully bluepilled again!!

Source: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/9002933-women-will-cry-a-river-about-wanting-mr-dependable-and#:~:text=Women will cry a river,pill , relationships
I found this to be so true. When women are tired of their current boyfriends they start talking to other guys to get that excitement back. Sometimes the staleness and stagnation that comes with an LTR can be a killer so make sure if you have a girlfriend that you keep things interesting and sexual as much as possible because she will get that excitement from someone else.

Makes you wonder how a NONE model tier looking dude like Rollo sustains a marriage for so long...is he a secretive millionaire, or simply a charlatan who gets cucked to keep his "wife happy"?

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

If you're the good guy, the strong alpha, you might get lucky and squeeze 1-2 years of a relationship out of her.

If you're the Jerk, treats her bad, sometimes neglectful kind of guy, you will more than likely squeeze the prime years out of her, maybe 5-8 years.

There are all types of shades between the good guy and the bad guy. Simplify life to good/bad and you'll probably end up bitter and alone.

I just live my life, I don't promise women exclusivity, if they don't accept me for who I am they can leave, I get enough sex/affection/intimacy to not put a special priority on sex or women, I treat women like lovers, but not like wives.

 

[soulforge]

At the end of the day, everyone, both men and women will be who they really are.

If you're the good guy, you'll be able to spot a good woman and have a drama free, long lasting relationship with her. If you're the jerk you'll attract all sorts of hoes full of baggage that will make your life miserable ... that doesn't sound like a winning proposition to me.

And please point me to these good women?

Bro these good women are literally Unicorns.