Its not the women.
Its YOU.
Stop being friendly with women. Learn your lesson. Next time do what the guy did. Ask for the number right away and don't ask "Lets hang out". There is no hanging out with a women you like. Stop trying to be friends with them.
1. Get your life in order...
There are no openers that can help you.
How about being authentic?
I bet you no other guy came up to her and told her how nervous he was about coming up and talking to her but you had to do it or you wouldn't be able to look atyourself the next morning. You could say anything you want as...
Send her a message and tell her,
"Thanks, we are the cutest two people on facebook."
Follow it up later in a few days, open up a conversation. Look at her profile before hand and learn about her.
If she isn't your friend, befriend her now.
You want to open up a conversation between...
"I get what you're saying but what's the point of them downplaying their excitement? I mean ..I haven't even fvcked these girls yet so why be fake?"
Good luck trying to figure that out. Actually don't try to.
Who knows, just like Doc said, I'ts party time for them. Maybe she wants to get a...
1. What do you care about it? Some women will act like it, until they get there and it will all change. Perhaps they don't like change.
2. Maybe they are downplaying it for you, but actually they are excited, they just don't want you to know it.
Either way, act indifferent. It shouldn't...
You just take her hand and pull her off to the side and say "lets go have a drink over here" or something like that.
Its not so much as what you say but how you say it.
1. Lead. Take her hand and lead her to the spot you want her to be with you.
2. You can tell her friends, you are going...
"I haven't seen you naked yet"
"Let's not jump to conclusions"
"I'm not that easy"
or if you respond with something that doesn't make sense, you are good to go.
You are overthinking this.
When you g/f asked you how?
Just say it was someone who you used to hang around with and leave it at that. Thats it, no more no less.
Thats all you need to say, "someone I used to know and hang around with." That should be your only answer even if she persists...
Take it as a learning lesson and move on.
Begin working on becoming the full package. The man who conquers himself. It is really all inner work. If you get that handled, all other will take care of itself.
Cut her loose. Focus your efforts and attention somewhere else.
Phones are to set up plans and to confirm or cancel them. They are never to be used for long 2 hour conversations.
You have already lowered your value. It's going to be tough bringing it back up.
Learn the lesson.
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