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If a frat guy with social status who is a 6 and another frat guy with no status but hes a 8 who you think is more likely to get the hot girl lol

Hot guys attract hot women, atleast in the very beginning. For a guy to even get his foot in the door with a 8+ he would have to be a 8+ himself, personality, game, social skills come after that but initially its the looks.

What i mean is, calling/texting 24/7 trying to set up dates, send good morning text, sweet talk her, act extra nice, ask her out numerous times ect remember shes not attracted to you already so you have to work on her for some time to build the attraction, she has the upper hand because she...

This guy gets it.....

Bruh, why does it bother you for her to go out without you? You sound beta as **** lol, you should have so much going on in your own life you dont even keep up with her enough to even notice her doing **** like that. Your girl should be trying to keep up with you not the other way around. Your...

Yep, the guys on here dont hear me though lol, they like chasing women, its clearly what there comfortable doing lol

Right, i dont know if guys are misunderstanding what im saying but theres a difference between a natural and a pua, what im describing is being naturally attractive thats all im saying, i never said anything about not talking to girls or approaching women ect im just saying when you carry...

Well anybody in a LTR would have to have more than swag, were not talking about Long term relationships though, were talking about initial attraction and getting a girl into you without having to use pua tactics or "let me wait 3 days before i call her" or going on six dates and spending money...

Yeah, all you can do is what works for you, what works for me and the people i know i guess wouldnt work for you.

Agree to disagree And maybe it will kill me over time but im 25 years old and its been doing me good so far.

I stopped reading at "being popular is for high school" SMH

You need to get laid...... And you right, i dont run game lol i dont have to.......again, who cares about building attraction, im talking about having initial attraction so guys wont have to kiss ass and chase girls and jump through hoops like you have to just to laid lol

Very good points......but when you have instant attraction alotta times they chase you and its much easier, you usually have the upper hand from the gate, when you have to build attraction, she has the upper hand(not all the time this is the case) but majority of the time since shes not already...

Yes, its all about how you carry yourself, The goal is to become naturally attractive instead of using pick tactics and jumping through hoops

Your on the right track bro, getting ***** is definilty critical to your swag, thats exactly what im saying...... The first thing the nerds needs to do is stop being a nerd and make himself more attractive, you have to feel good about yourself to pull off that vibe that draws women in. Hot...

Listen up guys, dont get me wrong im not saying that if shes not instantly attracted to you then your done, what im saying is, you can either be the guy who instantly and naturally attracts women just with your swag and or charisma and draw them to you(trust me, things are much easier) or you...

Right, so which one would you rather be? The who gets raw instant attraction or the guy who has to work on a girl for weeks displaying his great personality and social skills? If theres no instant attraction then you will be jumping through hoops and wondering why "she never initiates contact first"

So let me get this straight, you never seen a guy naturally draw women to him without him having to do anything? So if a nerdy lame looking guy who looks like he hasnt gotten laid in 4 years goes up to a HB6 and starts "spitting game" he has a chance now? Lol nope, she knows shes not attracted...

Nah not really, im 25 years old and i way 135 pounds flat lol no lie, im scrawny as **** lol but my good looks make up for that i guess. Its a mind thing, mind over matter, improve yourself until you are socially successfull(banging girls, popular, exciting social life) put yourself out there...

First of all good job, you did really good so you should feel good. I personally dont think shes playing games but if i was you i would fall back until she comes to me which would let me know shes possible interested, you did your part fam, the ball is in her court. Im not saying to never ever...