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lol so ur saying just run back? Doesn't that make me cheap? Shouldn't she have to work a little to get me back? I kind of want to drive her crazy by ignoring her, reply slow, show a little interest but maker her want more and then get her to the point where she just straight up asks for it. She...

lol there is no way this girl is going to drop her panties like that. Yes, she will get turned on and all of that with the right alpha mindset I agree but she is very shy on the topic of sex to the point that I can't imagine her doing it anytime soon. I think she is probably a virgin at age 36...

I think this is pretty accurate. However, some women will do all of that but still be kind of hesitant to meet up. Some might just kind of like the attention of connecting on instagram and liking each others pictures and some messages back and forth but everytime u ask to meet, they might not...

yeah, in my experience, if they have 10k followers, its going to be almost impossible to get a reply unless u can somehow really stand out like having the blue verified instagram check or a lot of common friends or something

well that's good. Did you have common friends with her? After she gave you her number, what did you do? Call her and chat and set up a meetup? I would say that the vast majority of time telling a pretty girl on Instagram "Give you me your number" will be ignored. I think there has to be at least...

Awesome, how did it start in the very beginning? What did you message her? How did you ask for the number?

UPDATE - So once this girl told me the friend thing, I have completely stopped talking to her. And today on Instagram, I posted a picture of me out at a cool place, and she immediately commented with interest at where I was. All of you who said just simply ignore here are 100% CORRECT. Now...

i'd say that it could be worth if it if she is super attractive and if you are also pursuing other women at the same time and not wasting time only focused on her

A lot of times I hear people on this forum emphasize the importance of advancing with a woman to intimacy (minimum kiss or more) as soon as possible in the dating process and ideally after date 1 or date 2. And that, if this doesn't happen, the man will most likely be placed in the friend zone...

sounds creepy, she might have given u a fake #, clearly she was not comfortable giving u the number and u asked for it too fast without establishing any repoir and were being weirdly overly aggressive and not listening to her say no. I'd be shocked if she actually met up with u.

But, I don't think I was timid? When alone at her place, I put my arm around her. She kind of came in and then went away. I tried to massage her neck. She said "oo that feels good" only to say "oo now it hurts, sorry i'm bony" 3 second later. Then, I put my arm on her thigh on the cough, no...

If so, how do you approach it? I have randomly followed attractive women and sometimes they follow me back. I usually then try to start a conversation. Any tips or advice on what works and what doesn't? I also try to avoid women with huge numbers of followers because they clearly just want...

I agree with you but then why do women often friend zone guys who are attractive? I mean, yes they probably screwed up and acted like weak men but still, the woman could still hookup? We as guys would not friend zone a woman who is attractive? Sure maybe we wouldn't want a relationship but we...

ok so lets say its the end of the 2nd date, we just had dinner and now its at the end of the date and I am dropping her at her apartment. She doesn't invite me upstairs and there are no clear signals she wants to kiss but also no clear signals she doesn't. How would you proceed in this...

okay so is there anything i can do now or do i just straight up exit? For example, could i just ignore her for a little bit and then ask her to hang out again and then try again to escalate with a better plan and more assertiveness? She said she loves hanging out but wants to do it as a friend...

Then why are there all these women who refuse sex until after marriage and really do live true to it? They may want it deep down but because of cultural upbringing, they often really do wait to have sex until after getting married.

yes, as of now not a lot of options. Just curious but how would you recalibrate the approach if you were in this type of a situation?

She is born in India but came to the US as a little child at age 5 or something. I did indeed escalate immediately after coming to her place. But, I wasn't getting the signals back so I didn't know what to do. It was also a work night so it was getting late for her because she goes to sleep very...

very astute observation! She is 36 so yes I fully agree that it is odd that she is still single at this life stage. Instead of micro-obsessing (which you are correct that I'm doing), what next steps would you suggest that I pursue? Her friends are not smearing me as her friends don't know me...

So, I recently met this girl and we went on like 4 dates or so. She is an intellectual type, born in another country, conservative on relationship things like sex and living with a guy, and has a good personality and bubbly and fun. She is a physician and she moved to my city and we began...