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I was thinking more stones sympathy for the devil. Yours sounds more interesting....

I don't understand?

No, this actually happened years ago and was just wondering in retrospect if there was ANYTHING genuine about her or it was all just artifice

Yes, another ****ing thread. I listened to the red pill handbook which sparked a memory of an incident with a bpd years back. Discussing previous sex partners and notch counts her first confessed number was a 5 relationships. That seemed off to me she'd already disclosed more just through...

Thank you. I know to some it may seem warped to seem willing to embrace and court pain and rejection but I can only explain it as having sat on something and repressed it for so long there comes a point where NOT doing is more painful than doing. Long live the game.

THIS IS BIBLICAL

Yes masochistic but it's like taking on a bigger fighter knowing damn well you won't win but the process takes the edge off the fear and sharpens the teeth for when it might actually matter. Thats what I'm telling myself anyway

Sound advice. Have already begun the process of pulling away but I suspect that this play is far from over. Look forward with some curiosity to doing a little subtle detective work and finding out what was actually the deal. Then pack it in my travel bag and March on.

I think I'll go for it. At this point I'm in a kind of "**** it" mood, like I want the rejection.

Good stuff ranger Mike. Will take this process as a very real operating guideline

I explained I get the initial impression. Been harbouring these questions for years so they've been divulged in one go. Grateful thus far for the constructive advice and glad for more so I can finally bury these queries and move onwards and upwards. Respectfully Ain't that the point?

Some girls believe in that stuff in terms of compatability and even pre destination they'll use it as a criteria to filter. Ie she's a Virgo and looking for her Capricorn soul mate or some such bull. Each to their own

You learn more thru your experience than others teaching, granted. My main concern is while I'm happy to try it myself it's the stipulation to not use the humour, negs, sarcasm, all that stuff I'd usually use just to have a more engaging interaction. strip that away and I'm wondering what the...

This is true. crazy ex of mine once described her libido and state of constant arousal as "her gift to the world". That made me feel queasy at the time and in retrospect not so much a gift as a curse or biblical style plague. (shudder)

Excellent answer dude. Thanks. Two points tho: as you mention this is great for the bar scene, what about in say more "respectable" circumstances as I'm actively avoiding bars and clubs at the moment in favour of daytime early eve activities in which quite so demonstrative and open an approach...

When you put it like that seems pretty obvious. I guess I got overly wary of validating uninterested girls egos by expressing interest. It's not like they don't get enough validation elsewhere and I hate to be that guy.......

I appreciate the appearance, however I've been reading this site for years and only just decided to dive in and contribute /ask hence all these long standing mysteries to me are being vomited out as fast as they occur so I can get some expertise and finally put them to rest. I get how it looks...

True, except more than once I've flirted with girls with rings and they confessed wearing it to avoid getting hit on but we're fine with it as long as they were into you. Mind you turns out they never had intentions of giving it up but were more than happy to lap up the attention as long as it...

What are some conversational checks to vet if a girl is shy and unsure but into you as opposed to being just disinterested and trying to get rid of you. I've seen how some good looking girls can have an inexplicable lack of self awareness seemingly of how attractive they are, like they've got...

Oh, I thought you meant lesbians :-))