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Simple. If she doesn't offer to make it up to you, by offering another date-day/time of her own free will - tell her maybe some other time(when she gives her line about why she can't go out), hang up, and toss her number immediately; she didn't like you anyway so don't waste any more of your...

I once thought that good looking-to-beautiful women couldn't possibly have no or low self-esteem because their whole lives have been one compliment after another. I met one when I moved here, my brother's g/f. She used to be a model for one of those motorcycle mags. You know, the ones with the...

You should, though. Women only touch men they are comfortable with, but you have to take into account everything else - not just the touch. Well there you go, she was engaged with the conversation and wanted to emphasize her point. You have to consider the woman, though - her body language...

You should, though. Women only touch men they are comfortable with, but you have to take into account everything else - not just the touch. Well there you go, she was engaged with the conversation and wanted to emphasize her point. You have to consider the woman, though - her body language...

Thanks everyone, for your comments It feels great not finishing last anymore ------------------ Definition Of Insanity: Doing what you've always done and expecting things to change.

Thanks everyone, for your comments It feels great not finishing last anymore ------------------ Definition Of Insanity: Doing what you've always done and expecting things to change.

Yes, THOSE make up a percentage of women that I overlooked in my post above: The ones that simply have no self esteem and do this number on guys they are even repulsed by, all for a temporary boost of themselves. They deserve their fate.

How did you go about getting these numbers, how did you ask? How did the conversation go prior to asking? How did she react to your asking - body language/facial expression/ verbal response. How soon are you calling them after getting the number? From a certain point of view, yes - that...

I was at dinner rally earlier this evening, a political-type function. Now, I went there specifically for that purpose, but when I got there - politics was the last thing on my mind. I never would have expected that many 20-25 y/o women there, compared to the same lot of men. (BBJ-Looked to me...

I was at dinner rally earlier this evening, a political-type function. Now, I went there specifically for that purpose, but when I got there - politics was the last thing on my mind. I never would have expected that many 20-25 y/o women there, compared to the same lot of men. (BBJ-Looked to me...

And they are absolutely correct. Only she knows when she is comfortable enough for touching. She'll let you know when that is because she'll be touching you. She knows your somewhat interested already; you asked her out, didn't you? She just doesn't know how much you're interested. You don't...

That's it, that is the first step. I noticed things beginning to change - once I began to be aware of things as they happened. Now, i'm just trying to perfect my grace at responding and improving to the situations. Still have mishaps here and there, but growing pains are alowed for a while I...

Thanks AD, that's what I was looking for - the verbage (as well as that extra, about the "not interested - counteroffer"). I know to say no, just didn't know the most effective way of putting it, if you will. I like to come off smoothe, and not tactless like, "No thanks, bye.," but more like...

Good point! Hmmm..Her goldfish? hehe barf Yeah.. I have those weak moments too when it's happening. But at least, like you, i'm catching everything that's happening now and not repeating them anymore. [This message has been edited by Armand (edited 11-03-2000).]

Nevermind, i think i've got it now.

What would be a smoothe way to respond to the old, "Sure i'd like to go, but could you call me that day a few hours before to confirm?" and the variances to that? I know you have to retain the control here by not agreeing to that, but what would be the best ways of saying no...

Testing, testing... Sounds like you're passing those tests with flying colors man. ------------------ Definition Of Insanity: Doing what you've always done and expecting things to change.

Continued: For example: Tuesday I was back in the Chinese restaurant for lunch, and she WAS working. I was able to talk with her very briefly (extremely busy-straight up noon) and throw the above her way. She smiled, but hesitated with a little sideways dart in her eyes (constructing a good...

I'm in Baton Rouge, LA. And you are in Orlando, FL? Real Estate there is pretty cut-throat eh? Same here..hehe. My brother is in residential-commercial new construction and looking to get into property development. I'm considering getting into development myself. There is SO much old farm land...