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Re: Re: Juggler "Method" Revisited Haha, the player lifestyle has definitely got me :) There’s really not much he can respond with, in terms of disagreement or clarification. My points were solid and he knows it. If you take away anything from the post, it should be that follow through is...

Juggler "Method" Revisited Yes, the “middle game” is considered the phase where you build up the attraction. Closing on the other hand is not a direct extension of this. When you close you do more of a ‘making use’ of that attraction than a continuation of creation of it. Strike one...

You’re missing the point. It’s human nature, in most cases, to strive for things that are bigger, better and more efficient. People come up with methods and theories to aid their natural ability (which all people have a different level of ). Another reason is that they seek to repeatedly and...

Giovanni it’s time to set you straight. That is if you are - oh that’s right, you only * act * gay to try to get women. No we won’t forget. “Do you have a problem with understanding words (Sexpdx)? I have NO USE for a Juggler workshop, or a Gunwitch workshop, or a speed seduction workshop...

“IMO any AFC can sarge lone wolves, they are not hard. It is like shooting at stationary targets, you don't have any distractions or obstacles.” –uni Picking up women who are in groups is usually easier than in solo situations. There are more people to speak to and more people that speak. It...

The following are my definitive points: Topic: Conscious Awareness of Increasing Attraction Before Closing Covered. Knowing this does not have to specifically be articulated. What should be articulated is how they believed they increased that attraction. Topic: Role Reversal...

“Nobody is ARGUING with it but many don't seem to understand it.”-PDX What’s so hard to understand about it? It’s simple, the most common method is to go up to the girl, have a conversation focused on increasing the attraction and then do some form of closing. Just because there may be people...

“The only way you can talk to her is to get right in her face or ear, and getting on the dance floor (or leaving to chill outside) is how you establish that closeness or (getting away from all the noise).” Yes you got something right. The only way to talk to her when music is blaring is in...

I’m not too crazy about gunwitch. That whole article is simply a bunch of unnecessary word usage and self-limiting rules and concepts that some guy came up with. He might have even ‘borrowed’ some ideas from some of his asf buddies that think they know so much. That alone would be enough of a...

A certain amount of analyzation is inevitable in seduction. There’s a thin line between productive analyzation and too much analyzation (which is unproductive). The key is not to analyze too much. Step back once in awhile and look at the big picture. Put things in perspective. It seems like...

I didn’t overlook the importance of eye contact and other non-verbal signals. I took their importance as a given. Knowing things like that are common sense, not a measure of how ‘versed’ someone is. :rolleyes: My point is that you should at least chat with the girl for a brief moment before...

The language is too extreme. If he were to qualify the rules with words such as 'some' or 'most', then it would be alright.

“The insecurities of the AFC do not let him realize that 'most' women are 'ready to party'. He assigns god-like qualities and immesurable virtues to every HB.” It’s not about the ability to realize that the woman is interested; it’s about the ability to get her to a point to where she is...

What’s up with you and your don’t “ask” policy? It’s getting old don’t you think? Don’t ask this, don’t ask that. Sheesh, there’s no problem with “asking” her to dance. A casual, “Hey you want to go dance” or “hey let’s go dance” is a hundred times better than what you advise to do which is a...

Of course the main aim when hitting on women is to increase their attraction towards you before number closing. That's a no-brainer and no one is arguing with that. Have them seduce YOU? It sounds good in theory but what does it actually mean and how can you tell when it's happening?