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Okay, so as for kino I am thinking I can hold her hand on the way into the restaurant, or as we come out. Also, perhaps I could put my arm around her or something while we are smoking cigs outside the restaurant afterward. If both of these moves go as planned, then maybe I could go for the KC...

So do you think I should use kino directly w/o verbally saying I want to date her? This is what I'd do normally except that I'm already friends with her and thought she may have a bad reaction to it.

Hey guys, I was a user on these forums many years ago, but stopped visiting for a while and am now back. For a while I have been friends with a girl who had a boyfriend. She is quite hot and on top of that I think we get along really well. She recently broke up with her bf, and I want to...

I was a member of these forums a few years ago, under the name humiliator or some variant of that. (I made a new name because the "forgot password" feature isn't sending me my old username/password for some reason...) I'm about 6 weeks away from going 2 years without getting laid. Let me give...