Living in a Midwestern state where passive-aggressiveness is actually one of the cliche's and slogans, I've thought about it more than you could fathom.
What part of the Midwest?
I hail from Michigan.
I have done direct/indirect tons of times in my life(My first 1000 approaches are all on record)
Over 1000 approaches is impressive.
and I found a combination of both works very well for me. I have tailored my game to basically get the best results possible.
I've tailored my game as well.
The
core principles remains the same, just tweaking some things here and there, based on the trend(s).
So yes I take women on walks/coffee dates etc.
Again, as do I.
And during that
first walk, I check her temperature by escalating shiit (getting physical)...reading her body language and demeanor.
If she passes that test, THEN we can discuss dates.
Due to the fact that not every chick is willing to come through to give me that guak guak 9000 of rip.
Exactly.
Even if she ain't willing to come through and give me that Becky

, she gotta be receptive towards my mere touch..and she also have to be receptive to my conversation(s) about sex.
No pay-dates until either of those
two are checked off the list.
The problems that guys have is; they pay for dates
before she checks off those two.
Bad gamble, in my opinion.
Let me say this, for me at my age I'm not focus on quick sex or even one-night stands been there done that. My game now is evolving in regards to companionship and a woman breaking bread, something a lot of members here are not in the realm to speak of.
Understood.
If that's where you are in your life, ain't nothing wrong with it.
But, even with that said...I would still recommend against
pay-dates...and as you already know; walks and at the very least, a
coffee date should be the most simplistic approach during the early
courtship phase.
Sounds like you know how to play the game.
If you're looking to smash easy pumpum I totally agree with this, why waste your time on a chick who is cold or lukewarm. I totally get this and agree with you on this
But see, the whole "easy pumpum" thing..I look at it different.
My mindset is, "What was
easy for me, would have been
difficult for you".
In other words, she saw something in me that
made it easy...
Not only does that put things in a completely different light....but I believe there is actual merit to it...which gets overlooked.
I will say now that you clarified it a bit more with context what you says makes more sense. However we both know if you're dealing with a chick, especially a baddie.
Sometimes you have to take them out. It's just the reality even for guys who are celebs or ballers they gotta take a bop out every now and then. That doesn't mean a baddie won't come through to smash. But I found that if you do something especially with summer coming up like walking while getting ice cream, coffee etc. These things don't break the bank. However once again I don't disagree with you because to me it sounds like your game is based on getting pumpum my game is moreso on hitting them pockets,
Bro, we think alike...and I cant say that I disagree much with how you operate.
But I do want to offer some pushback..regarding what you said about a "baddie".
I'm gonna shout you out on a thread I plan to post later...you'll see.