Getting easy IOI: Is This Common? Do You Experience This Too?

[jhonny9546]

I often notice that women, after a short interaction, show me incredible IOI.

Let's give the gym example: it could be that I ask them if I could use the machine after they end using, or if I could use a weight or barbell they aren't using. Even to I'm not trying to flirt, after this first interaction, they'll usually start to show interest. Some of them will start heavy/obvious IOI. It won't happen often, but let's say 50% of it. All those women are pretty let's say from 6 to 8. Then, day after this, if we met again, they'll start to smile or just making sure they are near me. Now, lately, this happens frequently, and I wonder if it's normal. If that happen also to you, and at which point of it.

As someone who's 5'5" in a world where 6'3" is the new standard, I'm curious about what makes me interesting to them. Is it my voice, way of speaking, or how I gaze, How I move? I'd like to understand this better, this could be a weapon if only I could understand what it is.

I've heard many women say I have beautiful eyes, but this doesn't explain they will show interest after our first interaction, or spending a lil time togheter.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Too hell with fvcking IOIs for God's sake. Please eliminate IOIs from your vocabulary ASAP. IOIs are just code for I am too pvssy to make a move. One time I had a threesome with two random girls sitting next to me at a bar. There were no IOIs given, I just approached them and bam. However, there's a girl at the gym that says hi and smiles to me and follows me around the gym. Guess what, she has a boyfriend or husband that goes to the gym with her, so what do you make of that IOI?

 

[Hamurabimbi]

IOI’s are subjective and unreliable.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Study after study show men interpret virtually anything that could even remotely show interest as a woman wanting to suck them off in the nearest bathroom.

In other words, you are likely interpreting these as far more of an IOI than they actually are.

 

[jhonny9546]

It might make sense, but maybe I explained myself badly: I don't go to the gym to notice "ioi's", it's what happens while I'm focused on doing my thing, which is different. They are so obvious that there is no need to "focus" on them. I would just like to understand why it happens after the first interaction. Their behaviour change towards me.

@Hamurabimbi @CornbreadFed I agree up to a point

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

IOI’s are subjective and unreliable.

I'd say 99% of IOI's guys think they are getting are really just normal polite behavior.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

If a girl likes you. She will be unambiguous.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Comment: Why men always think women are flirting with them

Straight men, research has found, are a lot more likely than straight women to fool themselves into thinking someone is romantically interested in them when they aren't.

www.sbs.com.au

 

[ManlyMan]

Not waitng for IOI's is unreliable. Its not efficient.

 

[Manure Spherian]

Too hell with fvcking IOIs for God's sake. Please eliminate IOIs from your vocabulary ASAP. IOIs are just code for I am too pvssy to make a move. One time I had a threesome with two random girls sitting next to me at a bar. There were no IOIs given, I just approached them and bam. However, there's a girl at the gym that says hi and smiles to me and follows me around the gym. Guess what, she has a boyfriend or husband that goes to the gym with her, so what do you make of that IOI?

What about IOI’s acted upon?

 

[Manure Spherian]

If a girl likes you. She will be unambiguous.

When I’ve used the term IOI I’ve had in mind lack of ambiguity. Am I using it incorrectly?

 

[Skyline]

I often notice that women, after a short interaction, show me incredible IOI.

Let's give the gym example: it could be that I ask them if I could use the machine after they end using, or if I could use a weight or barbell they aren't using. Even to I'm not trying to flirt, after this first interaction, they'll usually start to show interest. Some of them will start heavy/obvious IOI. It won't happen often, but let's say 50% of it. All those women are pretty let's say from 6 to 8. Then, day after this, if we met again, they'll start to smile or just making sure they are near me. Now, lately, this happens frequently, and I wonder if it's normal. If that happen also to you, and at which point of it.

As someone who's 5'5" in a world where 6'3" is the new standard, I'm curious about what makes me interesting to them. Is it my voice, way of speaking, or how I gaze, How I move? I'd like to understand this better, this could be a weapon if only I could understand what it is.

I've heard many women say I have beautiful eyes, but this doesn't explain they will show interest after our first interaction, or spending a lil time togheter.

They are showing you interest because you didn’t come off as a weirdo and apparently have pretty eyes. I’ve also noticed that men under 5’10 can play into the pretty boy stereotype extremely well. I would look into dressing yourself and maintaining your whole head to encourage more interests from women who prefer less intimidating men(which is popular right now thanks to stuff like KPOP and innocent looking actors becoming famous like Pedro Pascal).

I have something similar going on and it’s because i am desirable. I would start by greeting them and eventually building up to basic rapport from there. Don’t rush things because your job right now is to draw attention by being polite. You will ruin your chances with most of the women there if you misplay this.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

When I’ve used the term IOI I’ve had in mind lack of ambiguity. Am I using it incorrectly?

The ambiguity of IOIs is subjective.
What I had in mind was a girl initiating. Or offering to go out.

 

[SW15]

Indicators of interest (IOIs) are useful. An approach is more likely to result in a positive outcome if a real IOI is observed.

There are some issues with this.

In the last 15 years or so, the 2 younger generations of women (Gen Y/Millennials and Gen Z) have gotten much worse at giving IOIs than their predecessor generations. I noticed this as early as the early 2010s and remember having an in-person conversation about this in 2012. I had noticed an IOI difference in 2011-2012 as compared to 2004-2005.

Smartphones, earbuds/headphones, and social media have been primary causes of this.

Women are also less motivated to give out IOIs when they have hundreds of men in their swipe queues. It's more difficult to be present in the real world when plenty of virtual top tier men (6'0"+, fit/muscular, and sometimes with money) are matching with them on their phones.

Men also have the tendency to overstate an IOI. Some IOIs mean less than others. There's subjectivity in IOIs as @BackInTheGame78 and @Hamurabimbi both mention.

 

[Clockwerk50]

Real IOIs are subtle and outside conscious control (ie. blushing, involuntary mirroring of your gestures, unusual shyness or awkwardness, a sudden flash of anger or resentment, heightened emotional responsiveness, etc).

Things like smiling or staying near you can simply be politeness, especially in a social setting like the gym. The key is recognizing what they can’t control, not what they’re doing to be nice.

 

[Manure Spherian]

The ambiguity of IOIs is subjective.
What I had in mind was a girl initiating. Or offering to go out.

That’s what I mean by IOI too. Flagrant staring, waving, touching, smiling (and I don’t mean smiling as she rings up your groceries), initiation of conversation.