can men and woman be friends?

[BeExcellent]

I can't resist, but this is a woman's perspective. Not knocking this though. Enter the judge.



Read between the lin- Thanks for a rather sensible post.

FYI, When I winged I got my guy friends laid with other women. A couple dozen times in fact for one of my male friends; another male friend I introduced to his wife, and the wife is 27 years younger than him

 

[PlatoPacks23]

Oh, what I do is..when (if) I go out at night, I usually wait until the sun goes down, to ensure that it is "nighttime".

Then I leave the house, walk to my motorcycle, put the keys in the ignition, and put it in (D)rive.

Then I take off, and I'm out.

That is how I go out at night.



All by myself.



Why would she (or you) find it odd?

from my experience, if you are seeing a woman more than a couple months and have no close friends/people to introduce to her it's weird. Not your experience?

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

from my experience, if you are seeing a woman more than a couple months and have no close friends/people to introduce to her it's weird. Not your experience?

Not my experience at all...not even in the slightest bit.

 

[plumber]

The quote just explain why women who works with men in a job, will eventually cheat one day.

Anyway,

being "friend" with men it's also a "digital" thing nowadays.
I don't like what He says around minute 8, about esabilishing "boundaries" in a indirect way.
If you're serious about your LTR, You MUST tell her what you consider a limit and what is not!
What do you think?


And btw, one of my boundaries I've set for what I consider to be LTR is "to not use social media at all".
Infact, during the LTR, social media will be paused. If she won't agree, I'll next her.

The boundary will not likely work out. So much social activity and professional/business activity that is wired into social media. I get what you want to avoid, but it has to be done a different way.

Social media for sure gives access to your LTR for others. They will just ignore you and continue with getting to know your LTR. Really can't block social media completely and still get things done...

If she is starting or allowing the getting to know with guys and there is no reason other than to become friends that probably is not the LTR you want. Better to find out soon and make the change than to block her (control) and later things go silly. If she wants other men, she doesn't want you the way you want to be wanted. That sucks, but its a fact.

She might try to convince you that its ok, and platonic and bbla bla bla. Its not about her, its about you and how it feels for you. If your that low on her priority, then she should be lower on yours; maybe FWB. Never ever met a man that wants his mate to get to know other guys. I know plenty that tolerate it, and even defend it because that is part of tolerating. convincing self and others.

Plenty of good women screw up good men, because they will not give up the thrill of getting attention from men in general. Some men can tolerate it for time, but it will eventually screw up even the strongest. Never ever heard of a lifetime(60 years) marriage where the woman is or was flirty.

She needs female friends, make sure she has some and or gets more.

 

[jhonny9546]

Some men can tolerate it for time, but it will eventually screw up even the strongest

For a LTR with me, either pause social media, or stay single and keep it active..your choice.

We need to replace online validation with a private, physical connection, like a personal photo album documenting our special moments. Seeking validation from your partner is healthy; seeking it from acquaintances isn't. Find a woman who agrees, and you're set.

Never ever heard of a lifetime(60 years) marriage where the woman is or was flirty.

Interesting pov, please tell us more.

 

[plumber]

For a LTR with me, either pause social media, or stay single and keep it active..your choice.

We need to replace online validation with a private, physical connection, like a personal photo album documenting our special moments. Seeking validation from your partner is healthy; seeking it from acquaintances isn't. Find a woman who agrees, and you're set.

Almost any social group your in will have a social media footprint. Its sort of jerky to not use it for logistics. You do have to pay attention to what is going on with it. I think you mean you don't want men getting to know her on social media, if so I would agree. But social media is part of life now for most interactions. If she is keeping touch with some dude, that's a hard no. If she is scheduling for a party or event, then its ok. If you have social media and she does not allowed, that's not good. If neither of you have it, it will affect you ability to thrive in the world. It sucks, but its part of life now.

Now a different question is if social media should be private between a couple or public. Its easy to hide the social media and just lie about not having it. It probably should not be private, as privacy is the mother of all corruption. If a dude is trying to connect and your the one that answers occasionally and that doesn't bother her, that's good. If it bothers her, then she wants her privacy because....????? Its a blazing red flag. Many women will really fight for this one to have privacy and respect and accuse you of being insecure, find a woman that is happy to have you involved with her interactions with other men.

For short time or non LTR, really don't care who she talks to.

Interesting pov, please tell us more.

Its just the basics, long term LTR doesn't ever work when woman insist to keep contact with the guys. Some women will insist it is ok, and some men will also so that they don't sound weak or insecure. Deep down men don't like that and it slowly takes away from them if she does it and he allows it.

She can be polite without needing to get a connection and not allowing a guy to get a connection with her.

I don't know of any examples where the woman is flirty and its works out for long time. I know plenty of examples where the man is flirty and it works out just fine. Maybe its not fair.