7 Hobbies that makes you instantly attractive to Women

[taiyuu_otoko]

But less than being a singer or guitar player in a band.

Being a singer or a guitar player in a band isn't exactly a hobby most guys can just "pick up."

I still maintain that most guys would get better results with ladies if they spent an hour a day on social skills and communication skills rather than spending that same hour a day on a "hobby" that they hope will make it easier for them to get girls.

 

[Travel memoir21]

Being a singer or a guitar player in a band isn't exactly a hobby most guys can just "pick up."

I still maintain that most guys would get better results with ladies if they spent an hour a day on social skills and communication skills rather than spending that same hour a day on a "hobby" that they hope will make it easier for them to get girls.

Good idea, do you think going up to random strangers and starting conversations and maybe doing a DJ bootcamp again can help? I also think maybe having a Coffee Shop buddy who you can conversate will help. Maybe also volunteering or getting a part time job at which you can practice talking to strangers.

 

[zekko]

Interesting that golf is on there. I can see how it can be beneficial socially. But you always see that trope about the poor husband who wants to go out and play golf, and his wife is ticked off about it.

 

[jhonny9546]

I can see how it can be beneficial socially.

This is precisely why I've been considering some changes recently. I currently go to the gym and pay 500 euros annually. Most people there focus on their individual workouts, and there isn't much of a social or group atmosphere, even in the classes they offer, such as Pilates and yoga.
On the other hand, there's a smaller gymbox further away from my home that costs about 1,500 euros per year to attend classes. They also offer courses like yoga and mobility. What I've noticed is that people go there not just for the workouts, but also for the camaraderie with the trainers and managers. In fact, they form a tight-knit group that often organizes dinners, parties, and outings together. They are very united.

This made me think about whether investing three times what I currently spend would be worthwhile, considering the benefits. The social connections formed would be long-lasting and durable, as they revolve around healthy activities that I enjoy for life, like fitness, going on exploring new natural places, having fun togheter, etc.

It got me thinking about how I could stay there for at least 10 years and build strong friendships with these people. It's a bit like going back to school and having access to a new social network.

Have you ever thought about this too? Do similar experiences happen in your city?

Smart people have understood that after a certain age, people gather in certain places, mostly to solve their main problems. For example, you go to the gym not only to improve physically but also to have a social group, and social interactions. It's similar to when you see older people who always gather at the same bar.

 

[SW15]

Interesting that golf is on there. I can see how it can be beneficial socially. But you always see that trope about the poor husband who wants to go out and play golf, and his wife is ticked off about it.

Check out Post #9 on this.

A golf is usually a married beta male. Even before marriage, he was likely a beta bucks type to his wife. He wasn't the kind of guy who created genuine burning desire in her psyche and her body. With the passage of time, she desires him even less. She wants to get sex from the hot guy on the Florida beaches at Spring Break.

 

[zekko]

This is precisely why I've been considering some changes recently. I currently go to the gym and pay 500 euros annually. Most people there focus on their individual workouts, and there isn't much of a social or group atmosphere, even in the classes they offer, such as Pilates and yoga.
On the other hand, there's a smaller gymbox further away from my home that costs about 1,500 euros per year to attend classes. They also offer courses like yoga and mobility. What I've noticed is that people go there not just for the workouts, but also for the camaraderie with the trainers and managers. In fact, they form a tight-knit group that often organizes dinners, parties, and outings together. They are very united.

Interesting, I have never heard of such a thing. Sounds cool though, if that's what you are looking for. Most guys around here just say they go to the gym to work out and don't let anything distract them. Makes sense though that if you pay them much to join a "group", that there be some diverse benefits you can gain from it.

 

[SW15]

Interesting, I have never heard of such a thing. Sounds cool though, if that's what you are looking for. Most guys around here just say they go to the gym to work out and don't let anything distract them. Makes sense though that if you pay them much to join a "group", that there be some diverse benefits you can gain from it.

I have been to group fitness classes at multiple locations and I've never experienced a very sociable one.

 

[zekko]

I have been to group fitness classes at multiple locations and I've never experienced a very sociable one.

Nor have I, but the one @jhonny9546 was talking about sounds like a unique one. He said they organize dinners, parties, and outings. Makes you wonder if they screen people to make sure they fit in. The fact that it's three times as expensive probably filters out some people.

 

[jhonny9546]

Nor have I, but the one @jhonny9546 was talking about sounds like a unique one. He said they organize dinners, parties, and outings. Makes you wonder if they screen people to make sure they fit in. The fact that it's three times as expensive probably filters out some people.

The problem is not the cost.
There are other courses that do it and cost the same.
But this is the only one that has already created a community of 50 guys, women and men, close-knit who like the same things.
I think there is an opportunity for me, since this is also local people, where i live

 

[SW15]

I have been to group fitness classes at multiple locations and I've never experienced a very sociable one.

Nor have I

Group fitness classes are one of the biggest disappointments I've encountered in approach venues.

I have been to group fitness classes at my own gym and at outside standalone fitness studios via either ClassPass or short term class package buys. The experience has been similar at both concepts.

I have also been to a multitude of class types. I've been to interval/circuit training type classes, boxing/kickboxing, weight lifting classes, indoor cycling, and yoga classes.

All of the class formats have been majority female. Depending on the class, it's been 65-80% female. It's difficult to find those ratios in any other venue. Swipe apps are closer to 65-80% male. Bars are majority male too.

Despite the great ratios, it's difficult to arrange first dates off of going to fitness classes. Women are not very sociable before/after classes. I think many of them already have boyfriends. I tend to go to venues with younger women (under 35-40) and in parts of my city where the majority of the population is unmarried. It's highly unlikely I'm encountering many married women at my fitness class venues. I never know the breakdown of unattached vs. attached women at these venues. I'm sure there have been enough unattached women who weren't sociable either.

In the video in the first post of the thread below, 2 YouTube content creators/seducers called group fitness classes an F tier way to meet women.

Rankings of Every Way You Can Meet a Woman According to a YouTube Channel

Here is the complete list, ranked in order of best to worst: S-Tier: - Throwing an event or party - Instagram Cold DM- Creating Content on Instagram and Boosting it - Paying a club promoter to introduce you to women - Being famous, even just small-time locally famous - Being a musician A-Tier...

www.sosuave.net

 

[zekko]

Group fitness classes are one of the biggest disappointments I've encountered in approach venues.

Well, as has been said, the point of these classes is fitness, it's not to socialize. It sounds like the group that @jhonny9546 mentioned has different goals. I've never heard of a group like this, but maybe it's a European thing? Do you live in Europe?

I'd add that I think that when you have groups comprised of mostly females, they tend to close ranks. Not to shun the guys exactly, but girls probably don't want to be seen as the first one to go out with one of the dudes. And as you say, most of them probably have boyfriends. Maybe a Chad could penetrate the ranks, I don't know.

 

[SW15]

I've never heard of a group like this, but maybe it's a European thing? Do you live in Europe?

I live in the United States. I'm in one of the biggest cities in the USA.

the point of these classes is fitness, it's not to socialize.

That's the only thing that prevents group fitness classes from being a total loss and a total waste. Even if you don't get dates at them, you are getting a good form of exercise in most cases.

I'd add that I think that when you have groups comprised of mostly females, they tend to close ranks. Not to shun the guys exactly, but girls probably don't want to be seen as the first one to go out with one of the dudes.

I can't speak for every venue, but I don't think that's been the case with my gym or the standalone fitness studios where I've been.

The women aren't very sociable with each other at these classes. Also, these classes tend to have different faces at them all the time. Let's say there's a class with 25 females in it on a Thursday at 6 PM. The next Thursday at 6 PM, that same class will only have 2-3 of the 25 females in it from the previous week repeating at that time. There's no way that there are women concerned about closing ranks.

Membership turnover rates are high at these facilities. The standalone facilities offer short term class packages of durations of things like 3, 5, or 10 classes. Those people turn over quickly. I would know because I am one of those people who has bought short term class packages.

And as you say, most of them probably have boyfriends. Maybe a Chad could penetrate the ranks, I don't know.

I think this is the biggest factor with the classes at my gym and at the standalone studios where I've been.

I will never know because women at these classes don't disclose their boyfriends or unattached status.

Some women give off body language so bad that it's not even worth approaching them. There are women who will field an approach but won't be engaging in conversation. The conversation will fizzle quickly, often within 60 seconds. Only a very super direct approach, bank robber, @We_ArE_VeNOM style might be useful there. I tend to think my conversations that end within 60 seconds at the end of group fitness classes are with women so disinterested in me because they are not seeking new penis due to a boyfriend.

A top tier guy ('Chad') might do better but even that's debatable. I've rarely seen that type at fitness classes. There are good looking guys at fitness classes but rarely the very elite.

 

[zekko]

The women aren't very sociable with each other at these classes. Also, these classes tend to have different faces at them all the time. Let's say there's a class with 25 females in it on a Thursday at 6 PM. The next Thursday at 6 PM, that same class will only have 2-3 of the 25 females in it from the previous week repeating at that time. There's no way that there are women concerned about closing ranks.

Perhaps closing ranks isn't the right world. I'm just saying there's like an unspoken pact that they're not going to hook up with a random guy there. Maybe it's just that they view a guy with suspicion when he comes into a mostly female class?

 

[SW15]

Maybe it's just that they view a guy with suspicion when he comes into a mostly female class?

This is more of a factor. I still think it's less of a factor than the boyfriend factor.

The women in interval/circuit training classes, boxing/kickboxing classes, and indoor cycling classes are often fit women under 40. Most of them are going to be desirable if they hit the open market.

 

[Vending Machine Veteran]

All of this is how to make you appealing to other men. If expanding your social circle is the goal then these are great skills/hobbies but why did you title this as to attract women when it mainly attracts the attention of other men? Kind of like driving a sports car.

None of these are niche. They are all stereotypical traditional skills that are now mostly undesirable to women. Leave trad values behind and you will start getting opportunities.

I would argue that most of these skills are bare minimum.

I'm a dip spitting, back woods, basically retarded conservative

And even i was bored with their chocies

2 got me though, boy lol

 

[jhonny9546]

@SW15 @zekko



Great analysis! However, this group is a bit special. They enjoy activities like surfing, hiking, social gatherings, dinners, parties, and more, and some have known each other since childhood.

There are busy women and single women, and being a busy woman with kids doesn't mean she can't introduce you to one of her friends if you're nice and good-looking.

That said, the tier list you linked could work. Do you validate it? Have you had real-life experiences with those places?

Each of us has different strengths. For example, I've always noticed that I don't make much of an impression at parties or clubs, or in front of a large audience, but I shine in small, one-on-one interactions or in a small group. Women seem drawn to me in these settings, although only some. I'm not sure why, but I think it's more related to my intelligence and showing a kind, confident character.

 

[SW15]

the tier list you linked could work. Do you validate it? Have you had real-life experiences with those places?

I have had real life experiences with the many places/tactics mentioned in that video that led to me starting a thread on it in December 2023. Here's the video again.

Over the years, I have spent most of my time on the C to F tier ways. I've done nightlife venue approaching (C Tier). I've done the majority of the standard daygame venues (D Tier). I've been to group fitness classes as mentioned above (F Tier). I've used dating apps as a non-top tier guy (D to F tier).

I've sent DMs on Instagram (not many) and that's listed as S Tier. I've been a college student on a college campus (B Tier) but it has been 15+ years since graduation.

 

[Modern Man Advice]

Many guys end up disappointed in motorcycle ownership as a way to attract women. I would also think that being a motorcyclist is more attractive than being a golfer.

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This is pretty spot on...

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[Travel memoir21]

This is pretty spot on...

Modern Man Advice

Hows your business holding up man? We need business like yours more than ever....masculinity and testosterone is under attack

 

[zekko]

Great analysis! However, this group is a bit special. They enjoy activities like surfing, hiking, social gatherings, dinners, parties, and more, and some have known each other since childhood.

It sounds very interesting, but I think the reason it sounds so unusual to @SW15 and I is I don't think we have anything like this in the US.