Hitting the Wall

[The Duke]

How do you know the guy had any sexual interest in her? As said above, he was likely lonely and wanted to go with someone. As for fixing the fence, maybe he needed practice.

I was out with some people for brunch, one woman I knew took me aside and said "Badboy89, the 46 year old single mother wants to be ALONE with you." I said "Why?" Same woman, if I had an extra hockey ticket, I would ask her to go with me 2 seconds. Not down for sexual relations with her, but I'm down with companionship with her. Now if that woman said "The 23 year old single never married no kids woman wants to be alone you." I would have said "OK"

In terms of the Wall with women, I don't think its not "never doing anything with a woman" I think when most men refer to the Wall, they refer to it in terms of sexual relations with a woman

I don't know what his intent was, however I'll make sure to follow up with her and let you know. How much you want to wager that there was sexual intent on his behalf? He sure fits the template for a Basic Billy Beta. Hmm....fix the fence for cheap, free weed, free drinks, free concert, free limo. I bet the guy dropped over $800 and this guy is a blue collar worker. You really think he was just lonely? If he was lonely why did he do basic billy beta things that show motive towards sexual intent? Do you spend $800 a night on 50yo women when you're lonely, plus fix their fence for cheap? Bad Boy, your theory isn't holding water with me.

This is the first I've ever heard of a definition of the wall related to something other than sexual interest.

 

[Chow Mein]

Ain’t nothing but single moms and gorditas down there

Excuse me, but the preferred term is torta

 

[Solomon]

A lot of you make me laugh when you claim that women over X age have no options except to sit at home and pet their cats. So here's a story of another case where its not as true as some of you make it out to be.

A female I know very well is almost 50. This woman has a cute face, but is 25lbs over weight. Recently she had three of her single male neighbors offer to repair her fence that fell down. She took the first guy up on his offer and he barely charged her. A few days later he is asking her to go to a concert. She accepts. He picks her up in a limo for a concert that is over 1hour away.

Free weed, free alcohol, free concert, almost a free fence repair, and rode to the concert in style! This chic has no sexual interest in this guy. I wouldn't even call them friends.

Not something I would ever do, but a lot of guys do. I'm just saying it happens more than a lot of you want to believe.

This is how pu$$y gets overinflated.

In my opinion the Wall only applies if a woman wants to have children with marriage. Yes I know with tech women can have children later in life but it's not guaranteed. Most women if they keep themselves in shape or not fat will still have options in their 40s 50s and heck even beyond.

The issue I have with redpillers is like you they foolishly think women will be alone or can't get "Chad" The truth is because of the thirst(and loneliness epidemic) of modern men, women will always have options even ugly fat ones.

 

[Dr.Suave]

A lot of you make me laugh when you claim that women over X age have no options

This chic has no sexual interest in this guy. I wouldn't even call them friends.

Sounds like she has options, just not options she actually like. Factor in her age, weight, etc and yes, I could say she a post wall woman. Many members would say Im coping, or sour grapes or whatever; But how can that be the case if I have younger, hotter, better women than the one you are describing?

 

[CornbreadFed]

In my opinion the Wall only applies if a woman wants to have children with marriage. Yes I know with tech women can have children later in life but it's not guaranteed. Most women if they keep themselves in shape or not fat will still have options in their 40s 50s and heck even beyond.

The issue I have with redpillers is like you they foolishly think women will be alone or can't get "Chad" The truth is because of the thirst(and loneliness epidemic) of modern men, women will always have options even ugly fat ones.

The biggest wall negator for women is that they do not sexually desire younger men in the same regards as how men desire younger women. A 45-year-old woman is going to more than likely take a 50 year old guy with his shvt together over some 21 year old frat boy testing out the cougar juice.

 

[maturin]

How much you want to wager that there was sexual intent on his behalf? He sure fits the template for a Basic Billy Beta.

Of course there's sexual interest. When theres no sexual interest the guy either ignores or shows up as if hes meeting with a buddy.

Not necessarily a beta. Clearly infected with the BP mind virus (unless hes running a con). That's what this looks like and he will behave more and more beta. This works in the older ladies favor now and she may actually prefer this at this point. Malable easy agreeable men.

Again support drones are the men (this term is used lightly here) filling the boxes of 60 year old ladies. This man might be seeking companionship but women never change. Theres always something conditional. At this age they seek a handyman, driver, and philanthropist. One thing I'll guarantee you, is this tool starts paying some of her bills real fast. She won't even ask. He'll volunteer. If they are together for a bit and she has a new car you'll know where it came from.

This cowboy mending fences and hiring a limo is classic BP game that would make any clergyman proud. Put the woman in a superior position and try to prove yourself. Seek validation. Heavy investment up front. Textbook.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Could have just fixed the fence in a tight white tee, jeans and some timberlands, that’s what I always did when I was a suburban housewife and the neighborhood moms always found a reason to come say hi. Could have saved that guy a grand.

 

[Clockwerk50]

I can’t hate the guy for trying to get laid. People over 50 still need to get their balls drained. Sadly, he is just a nice guy.

 

[DJ Novice]

There will always be women in their 50s who by a combination of good genetics, taking care of their appearance and plastic surgery will look much younger than their age and would induce a boner.

Conversely there are women in their 40s who make gargoyles look attractive and your junk shrivel to the size of a rice kernel.

 

[Clockwerk50]

There will always be women in their 50s who by a combination of good genetics, taking care of their appearance and plastic surgery will look much younger than their age and would induce a boner.

Conversely there are women in their 40s who make gargoyles look attractive and your junk shrivel to the size of a rice kernel.

Sofia Vergara is 52, albeit with ton of surgery.

 

[Sophisticator]

Someone offering free weed?

 

[H8CourtshipWithAPassion]

reminds me of a mindset i've had for years now

 

[crowolf]

Simping should be illegal at this point. Men should stop giving away free attention, gifts, and everything else as a compensation of their lack of game and inner value..

 

[Clockwerk50]

Simping should be illegal at this point. Men should stop giving away free attention, gifts, and everything else as a compensation of their lack of game and inner value..

That is self-explanatory. Don't be like this:

 

[CornbreadFed]

Simping should be illegal at this point. Men should stop giving away free attention, gifts, and everything else as a compensation of their lack of game and inner value..

So don’t talk to women at all?

 

[crowolf]

So don’t talk to women at all?

Talk to women, but if they don't reciprocate interest and investment (in terms of time, energy, etc.), don't shower them with free attention, compliments, validation, gifts, etc. in order to buy your way into their kitty (and not even succeed at getting there).

As someone said: It's like training a dog and rewarding it for bad behavior. Why would anyone do this?

The natural male/female dynamic is that the woman should look up to you, as a man. Not to look down to you. And not you pedestalizing her way up there. You are the prize. And if you are not, well, too bad for you.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Talk to women, but if they don't reciprocate interest and investment (in terms of time, energy, etc.), don't shower them with free attention, compliments, validation, gifts, etc. in order to buy your way into their kitty (and not even succeed at getting there).

As someone said: It's like training a dog and rewarding it for bad behavior. Why would anyone do this?

The natural male/female dynamic is that the woman should look up to you, as a man. Not to look down to you. And not you pedestalizing her way up there. You are the prize. And if you are not, well, too bad for you.

So is going on a first date giving out free attention & energy?

 

[Clockwerk50]

Talk to women, but if they don't reciprocate interest and investment (in terms of time, energy, etc.), don't shower them with free attention, compliments, validation, gifts, etc. in order to buy your way into their kitty (and not even succeed at getting there).

As someone said: It's like training a dog and rewarding it for bad behavior. Why would anyone do this?

The natural male/female dynamic is that the woman should look up to you, as a man. Not to look down to you. And not you pedestalizing her way up there. You are the prize. And if you are not, well, too bad for you.

I don't think it's rewarding bad behaviour.It's the simple premise of high interest/low interest. Women signal disinterest subtly, and many men don't pick up on it. That creates the illusion that more effort might flip the script — or they confuse politeness with attraction. When she replies to a compliment with 'You're so sweet,' she's brushing you off, not playing hard to get.

I think simping wouldn't exist if men knew how to read the signals. Unfortunately, when women tell you directly they're not interested, men often throw a fit - which only reinforces why they prefer to reject subtly in the first place.

Calling a woman out

I've probably made a thread like this before, but anyway here we go. If a girl assumes something about you, you have to hit her back. Alot of this site keeps saying "walk away, be smooth, girls are silly, don't take it seriously." Well, I somewhat listened to that advice during my last...

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Proof that women past 50 play AW games on apps!

All rise! You may be seated. Drink some soda or juice. I was talking to a 55 Y.O on Hinge. Things went good until it was time to come off site. I had to handle her in a way she wasn't used to due to playing immature 304 games. But some say I should've given her my number. Simp move to me...

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[Giovanni SouthSide]

Well kept milfs and gilfs with curvy bodies and fat asses will always be on the menu.
I was just at Costco the other day , and this older Mexican Latina milf in her late 40s early 50s in front of me literally gave me a hard on in line. She had the right amount of thickness and a banging body. Natural organic peach booty. Not too big and not too small. Her face was fair enough but nothing that dim lights and a pillow won’t fix.
Mind you, I just had gotten back from sprinting a couple rounds and running 3 miles. I was having Hannibal Lecter intentions with volcanic testosterone boiling in my veins.
She was very well kept and gave the vibe of a traditional home maker. Went she went up to the register she was ultra feminine with an on going soft attitude towards the other female cashier. That gentle mannerism even turned it on more.
I was confident and zeroed in on the cold approach in the parking lot but I had to scale back since I believe it was her husband waiting for her outside. I was going to shoot my shot and who knows maybe she wanted some young lifeblood to rejuvenate her existence.