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Dating epiphany phase women as a former nice guy

JuanSama

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What is your plan of action to fvck more beautiful girls?
I'm gonna have to work on my niceness some more because it being too deeply internalized makes me have to fake a lot.

Asking for her bodycount won't do you no good as the only good answer is zero. Like Chris Rock said in his show :" two???? You sucked two whole d1cks before me?? Uhg!".
Patrice O'neal talked about this a long time ago where he said that men don't want to accept that there could be someone who smashed their woman better than they did. Maybe your woman's still thinking about that other man while having sex with you. He took it to the extreme by joining swing clubs to watch his woman have sex with another man. He even said that once there was a man who was much better than him smashing his woman right in front of him. This allowed him to let go of that ego but it still hurt to know that you're not her best choice. I'm definitely not doing that.
 

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Patrice O'neal talked about this a long time ago where he said that men don't want to accept that there could be someone who smashed their woman better than they did. Maybe your woman's still thinking about that other man while having sex with you. He took it to the extreme by joining swing clubs to watch his woman have sex with another man. He even said that once there was a man who was much better than him smashing his woman right in front of him. This allowed him to let go of that ego but it still hurt to know that you're not her best choice.
Never heard of him but he sounds like a Cuck
 

Gamisch

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Never heard of him but he sounds like a Cuck
PoN is THE original founder of the redpill as it is today ( arguably). He was a comedian/ actor who had a show called black doctor Philip where callers called in asking questions about women. Shyte was pure gold.

I guess what PoN meant was that when man let's go off his ego he basically becomes untouchable. He also stated that if a woman.wants to cheat on.him he will rather bless her instead of trying to prevent it.

His game was on another level, and he inspired countless of the redpill creators we know today.

He was a fat mofo but extremely charming, and one of the few standup comedians that never prepared a show but just improvised on the spot.

As you can tell I'm a big fan of him. He died few years ago IIRC due to sugar issues at only 38y.o.
When he knew his days were numbered he went all out and dgaf about his image or whatever.

RIP Patrice .
 
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JuanSama

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I thought about this some more and after some introspection, I realized that subsconsciously, I was feeling sorry for these women. In my gut feeling, these women have been "used" by bad boys just like my single mother, and they deserved better.

I've still got a lot of unplugging to do. Appreciate any tips from former nice guys.
 

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I didnt know you were the son of a single mom. I did have a dad growing up but sadly he passed away more than a decade ago.

You seem to be doing way better than the incels. Did you have father figures growing up?
 

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I thought about this some more and after some introspection, I realized that subsconsciously, I was feeling sorry for these women. In my gut feeling, these women have been "used" by bad boys just like my single mother, and they deserved better.

I've still got a lot of unplugging to do. Appreciate any tips from former nice guys.
Don't ever feel sorry for them. Thats treading into white knight territory which is very low grade. You feel sorry for those worthy of your sorrow. Children, animals, elderly. Not random women and/or thots. They don't feel sorry or care about you at all. Dont invest too much up front. This is a classic niceguy provider mistake. if you were drowning, most of them couldnt be bothered to throw you a life perserver. They made their choices. They werent used. And its not your problem. They have to live with those choices like the rest of us.
 

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I thought about this some more and after some introspection, I realized that subsconsciously, I was feeling sorry for these women. In my gut feeling, these women have been "used" by bad boys just like my single mother, and they deserved better.

I've still got a lot of unplugging to do. Appreciate any tips from former nice guys.
That's where you are wrong. They didn't get "used", they went for what they are attracted to.

Stop treating women like they are some delicate little flower in need of your protection. They are adults capable of making their own decisions.

Unlike you, these men simply believe they are the more important person in the relationship, as EVERY person should, and acted accordingly.
 

Barrister

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“Old man” at 30? Come on man.

You can easily still pull 18-21 range at 30. That’s not old at all. Early 30s is honestly the sweet spot for dating for men as you still have your youthful appearance but your SMV is higher than your 20s as you’ve (hopefully) gotten established in your career.

Don’t limit yourself like you’re doing. That’ll just mean less dates and less sex for you.
 

JuanSama

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I didnt know you were the son of a single mom. I did have a dad growing up but sadly he passed away more than a decade ago.

You seem to be doing way better than the incels. Did you have father figures growing up?
Sorry for your loss. Having a dad sure sounds great. A lot of my males friends still hang out with their dad and they're way healthier than me mentally. I didn't have father figures. I had my uncle but he frequently got in trouble and nobody liked him as a result. I grew up thinking bad stuff about men in general.

Don't ever feel sorry for them. Thats treading into white knight territory which is very low grade. You feel sorry for those worthy of your sorrow. Children, animals, elderly. Not random women and/or thots. They don't feel sorry or care about you at all. Dont invest too much up front. This is a classic niceguy provider mistake. if you were drowning, most of them couldnt be bothered to throw you a life perserver. They made their choices. They werent used. And its not your problem. They have to live with those choices like the rest of us.
That's where you are wrong. They didn't get "used", they went for what they are attracted to.

Stop treating women like they are some delicate little flower in need of your protection. They are adults capable of making their own decisions.

Unlike you, these men simply believe they are the more important person in the relationship, as EVERY person should, and acted accordingly.
I hear you guys. I already read the Rational Male collection and no longer hang around my mother too often, but I still have all the feminine programming deep in my psyche. A couple years before I discovered the manosphere, I believed that women hated sex, so I'm definitely making progress, but there's still work to do.
 

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It's your job to be Confident and be the best version you can be.

But after it's done, you must know where to find these Quality women you are looking for. The problem is where you're meeting these ladies that you attract in your life.

You must stimulate good Karma within yourself. You do that by having a Sense of Purpose and Giving goals that benefits society and your local community around you. Are you searching for these women at random places like bars and clubs? Or Cold Approaching? What you want to do is stimulate that SOCIAL MOMENTUM by having a great Social Circle around you that you can talk to from time to time, doing things like not masturbating and looking at Porn, by practicing Delayed Gratification and again, searching for the right places like Church, Mosque, Bookstores, Pottery classes, Yoga classes, meditation classes etc.
 
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