What we can and MUST learn from the men on the pop the balloon shows

[CornbreadFed]

That's because other races/ cultures YET have cultural things to fall back on such as marrying their cousins, or where simply having money is more important than western demands such as looks and status.

The white incel doesn't care nor does he understands the importance of what I'm saying in this thread( hence the lack of responses). They are still indoctrinated by their upbringing where they saw their fathers being beta chumps who still got a lifelong partner. So they believe that no matter what, there will be a woman who will love then regardless of their flaws.

Black women have no merci whatsoever. As a black dude you are either top 5 or bottom 95. No in between. So yeah, the new incels are most definitely men of colour who move like white incels.

White Incels are temporary and usually fade out hence Wheat Waffles for example. Brown/Black Inceldom requires a different approach to get out of. A black guy can be a doctor, good looking, and jacked and still be an incel by putting himself with the wrong types of women. Brown incels are more self-inflicted because they refuse to date within their own culture and shoot for pretty blonde-white women that they can control.

 

[Divorced w 3]

I agree. So many men gave up on dating because there literally no fun in it for them.

One of my homies is a great example. He became a skinny incel who complains that women don't want him because of his looks. But he also doesn't want to work on himself. It's again a chicken / egg dilemma. When we talk about it I get answers like this( with all due respect bro) Basically saying that his "future wife" gotta be able to see through his weaknesses and appreciate his character yadiya. I keep saying nah bro. You gotta put in the work. Like they say abs are made in the kitchen. Attraction made in your day to day life by the decisions you make. Attraction is about MAKING yourself attractive to women. Hence my gym analogy; it seems simple but its damn hard to do and maintain it consistently, especially when you are at a minus and you need to get into a surplus of attractiveness.


If a man is down bad it might take him two years to upgrade and become date-able. But those two years will feel really ungrategull, only hard work with little to no reward. That's what turning men off.

They don't realise that that NEW woman does not know the old you nor does she care. I don't care if a hot woman used to be a fattie 5 years ago. I only care about what I see TODAY.

I’m not sure if your intention in quoting me was to agree or disagree but, the purpose of what I said was that as long as you are intentional and own your persona, that you will attract people because you are conveying a confidence and purpose that will attract curiosity and that’s what seduction is about.

Think I am kidding? Some of the ugliest men on earth have controlled masses and altered history with their confidence and rhetoric - Macro sociology.

Okay, so then we can’t all be Jim Jones nor do we want to be. Everyone here knows Mystery, or Neil Strauss, (if not, mandatory reading) - ugly guys. Micro sociology- peacock theory

 

[Gamisch]

I’m not sure if your intention in quoting me was to agree or disagree but, the purpose of what I said was that as long as you are intentional and own your persona, that you will attract people because you are conveying a confidence and purpose that will attract curiosity and that’s what seduction is about.

Think I am kidding? Some of the ugliest men on earth have controlled masses and altered history with their confidence and rhetoric - Macro sociology.

Okay, so then we can’t all be Jim Jones nor do we want to be. Everyone here knows Mystery, or Neil Strauss, (if not, mandatory reading) - ugly guys. Micro sociology- peacock theory

I disagree.

Ofcourse you have a point, but when we try to analyze seduction imo these descriptions are too vague.

Yes, you should strengthen your inner being. Buy having good( as possible) lolls will make the interactions with women flow way more smooth and "natural"


Let's just say that a man without women won't wake up one day( or day 600) and think" let me embrace my inner self "
He needs ACTION, stuff that's touchable. Style and physique are both touchable . So-called "game " is already a more difficult concept to grasp. What you're saying is completely next level.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

I disagree.

Ofcourse you have a point, but when we try to analyze seduction imo these descriptions are too vague.

Yes, you should strengthen your inner being. Buy having good( as possible) lolls will make the interactions with women flow way more smooth and "natural"


Let's just say that a man without women won't wake up one day( or day 600) and think" let me embrace my inner self "
He needs ACTION, stuff that's touchable. Style and physique are both touchable . So-called "game " is already a more difficult concept to grasp. What you're saying is completely next level.

I think the idea DW3 was pushing is that your persona will drive your style and presentation. A good physique will always help needless to say.

 

[Divorced w 3]

I disagree.

Ofcourse you have a point, but when we try to analyze seduction imo these descriptions are too vague.

Yes, you should strengthen your inner being. Buy having good( as possible) lolls will make the interactions with women flow way more smooth and "natural"


Let's just say that a man without women won't wake up one day( or day 600) and think" let me embrace my inner self "
He needs ACTION, stuff that's touchable. Style and physique are both touchable . So-called "game " is already a more difficult concept to grasp. What you're saying is completely next level.

Everything I am saying is 101. Self esteem and confidence are not next level they are playground level.

The reason they are attractive is because most people lack self esteem and confidence, they want to be lead.

 

[Divorced w 3]

I think the idea DW3 was pushing is that your persona will drive your style and presentation. A good physique will always help needless to say.

Right. Somewhere in young adulthood, personas start to develop and the inner confidence and esteem push some people into distinctive styles and their belief system starts to outwardly manifest in visual and nonverbal forms.

If this was not true, people here wouldn’t be constantly deifying Chad and Stacy. The reality is that they’ve been obsessed with being Chad and Stacy since third grade but they couldn’t quite put a finger on it and then they read books and developed a bigger vocabulary and picture of the world.

I’m sure I’m not the only one here whose been told in my late 30’s or whenever that they were probably popular back in the day.