monkey branch timeline

[jhonny9546]

We've seen it all, from the POV of the man who suffered, and from that of the man who took advantage, and many experienced men here have witnessed it so many times that they likely have a clear idea of the precise steps a woman takes when she monkeybranches.

If you were to list these steps to visualize them better, like a system or repetition of patters, and make an informative post for the men out there, about how, what, and when she will monkeybranch, what would you include and in what order?

It would be incredibly helpful to know what the man should do "in response to her moves", because many men, unfortunately, through no fault of their own, fail to use the "romantic" "Disney narrative" to their advantage, thus leading, but fall into it and become the victims.

 

[dark god]

1. Wants to hang with friends more then usual or now wants to hang with work buddies who a few months prior didn't care for so much.
2. Texting more then usual and secretive about it.
3. Dressing differently.. now little extra attention to how she looks.
4. Hobbies and interest that she didn't have before.
5. Going to the gym..with you she was a couch potatoe now what's to be the next miss usa fitness.
6. And the biggest red flag is sex slows way down or stops.

I can't really put an order to these because every woman is different but if she's doin at least 3 out of the 6 above your in trouble my friend.

 

[jhonny9546]

6. And the biggest red flag is sex slows way down or stops.

I do agree with many of your points, but this is not always true.
One of my exes started to beg me everyday to have hardcore sex with her, doing more perverse things, like BSDM stuff, and she increased oral sex frequency. From nothing.
In the meanwhile, I found out She was having experiences "abroad" our Relationship

 

[The Duke]

There is never a set of steps, women aren't that methodical. Stop trying to understand women using such structured logic. They are ruled by their emotions. Some of you view women as mathematical equations when you should take a more psychological/sociological approach.

All the things @dark god listed are good, here are a few more possible indicators that I've witnessed in person:

-She is out shopping more.
-She starts buying lingerie.
-Happy hour is more frequent and lasts longer.
-She has to work late more often.
-She stops attending your functions/hobbies/events.
-She skips out on your grandma's funeral even though she knew how important it was that she should be there.
-She opens a new checking account for herself.
-Her sleeping habits change.
-She doesn't always take your calls.
-Her texting habits change.
-She gets flakey on plans with your.
-She doesn't want to see you every 2-3 days like she did before.
-She leaves out details on what she is doing when she isn't with you. Becomes more vague.

What should a man do? lol, pull away and prepare to end the relationship. By the time she starts disrespecting your relationship, she has already flipped the switch. Her actions are an attempt to make you angry and do something stupid so she can justify leaving and blame it on you.

You don't try and keep women like this. There are many others out there if the one you have doesn't work out. Trust me, it will be just fine. Variety is the spice of life anyways. There isn't a single one of them that is perfect or even close to it.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Disinterest is only met with more disinterest.

Men need to stop looking at "what can I do to get this woman back" and start looking at it as "this woman no longer deserves my attention so I will give it elsewhere".

But again...too many people are trying to get to a place of abundance coming from a place of lack and that will not work, ever.

 

[New_Journey]

We've seen it all, from the POV of the man who suffered, and from that of the man who took advantage, and many experienced men here have witnessed it so many times that they likely have a clear idea of the precise steps a woman takes when she monkeybranches.

If you were to list these steps to visualize them better, like a system or repetition of patters, and make an informative post for the men out there, about how, what, and when she will monkeybranch, what would you include and in what order?

It would be incredibly helpful to know what the man should do "in response to her moves", because many men, unfortunately, through no fault of their own, fail to use the "romantic" "Disney narrative" to their advantage, thus leading, but fall into it and become the victims.

If you think your woman wants to monkey branch then you fvcked up, either from the beginning you weren't her best option or during the relationship you became puzzy whipped.

The only action to do here is, put a dead relationship out of its misery don't let her hang on the next branch, let her go through the trouble of trying to replace you. Cut her off your life, focus on yourself and do a lot of reflection on what you did so you don't repeat the same mistakes again.

 

[jhonny9546]

If you think your woman wants to monkey branch then you fvcked up

Not mine in particular, but I'm observing three friends in LTR (7, 10, and 11 years). Their gf's have cheated in the past and were forgiven. Now, the couples with 10 and 11 years together also have kids and are planning to get married.

From an external POV, I can clearly see signs of monkeybranching in two of them. One I'm pretty sure because She tried to seduce me.
My friends are learning important lessons because they don't want to listen to what I see.
They're the 'secure' kind of men, really 'confident,' but immature and childish at the same time. And close minded.

you weren't her best option

Disagree with this, because You can be the 1st option now, but not tomorrow, and also, You can be the 1st option now, but She will still have someone on her https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/no-you-are-not-on-her-high-score-list.240607/

So either You are failing at getting your own sh11t togheter or either failing at analyzing the situation logically (you can still work hard, but she could still have no real 100% genuine interest in you). In the 2nd scenario it's not your fault.

 

[New_Journey]

either from the beginning you weren't her best option or during the relationship you became puzzy whipped.

Not mine in particular, but I'm observing three friends in LTR (7, 10, and 11 years). Their gf's have cheated in the past and were forgiven. Now, the couples with 10 and 11 years together also have kids and are planning to get married.

From an external POV, I can clearly see signs of monkeybranching in two of them. One I'm pretty sure because She tried to seduce me.
My friends are learning important lessons because they don't want to listen to what I see.
They're the 'secure' kind of men, really 'confident,' but immature and childish at the same time. And close minded.




Disagree with this, because You can be the 1st option now, but not tomorrow, and also, You can be the 1st option now, but She will still have someone on her https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/no-you-are-not-on-her-high-score-list.240607/

So either You are failing at getting your own sh11t togheter or either failing at analyzing the situation logically (you can still work hard, but she could still have no real 100% genuine interest in you). In the 2nd scenario it's not your fault.

I said either you're not her best option or you became a puzzy. Women cheat to move on, no woman will cheat on her best option and if she's in love, other men are invisible.

When a woman cheats and comes back, means that her other branch wasn't that secure and she got pump and dump. Those fuys forgave them cause they have no other options and have onitis

Everything that happens in a relationship is the man's fault. He either chose wrong or became a puzzy.

We have to stop making women accountability by verbalizing it, it doesn't fvcking fix anything. If a man can't live with a flaw from his woman, he either leaves her or lives with it.

Men commit to women, not the other way around, during the vetting process the guy :

1. Ignored red flags that were there and/or
2. He became a beta puzzy

There is no other way around, women chose who they have sex with and men chose they have commitments with

We can't change women, we can only change ourselves and your friends are blue pill betas.

 

[Westminster]

Therein lies the problem because once she cheats you need to end it. Whatever the cost, its over.

You forgive a woman for stepping out, you have no self respect and deserve no sympathy.

For me, its the ultimate deal breaker. No way back.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

If you think your woman wants to monkey branch then you fvcked up, either from the beginning you weren't her best option or during the relationship you became puzzy whipped.

The only action to do here is, put a dead relationship out of its misery don't let her hang on the next branch, let her go through the trouble of trying to replace you. Cut her off your life, focus on yourself and do a lot of reflection on what you did so you don't repeat the same mistakes again.

Usually this is the case, but there are also times when she realizes you aren't what she thought you were going to be over time and then it causes a rift in her mind which is very difficult to overcome because she sees you one way but realizes you aren't that...usually due to how you respond to situations that don't come up very often or in stressful situations.

This isn't necessarily "you doing something wrong", this is simply two people not being compatible long term.

 

[New_Journey]

Usually this is the case, but there are also times when she realizes you aren't what she thought you were going to be over time and then it causes a rift in her mind which is very difficult to overcome because she sees you one way but realizes you aren't that...usually due to how you respond to situations that don't come up very often or in stressful situations.

This isn't necessarily "you doing something wrong", this is simply two people not being compatible long term.

That usually happens when a guy uses PUA techniques to get girls, without internalizing he's the prize. That same $hit happened to Mystery.

IMO compatibility issues happens when the guy is needy and makes his woman the center, the girl feels in a prison, I mean you can't blame her.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

That usually happens when a guy uses PUA techniques to get girls, without internalizing he's the prize. That same $hit happened to Mystery.

IMO compatibility issues happens when the guy is needy and makes his woman the center, the girl feels in a prison, I mean you can't blame her.

Not really, but keep believing that