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What do you guys have to say for yourselves? :). The same story plays out right here on SS. Women don't want you and employers don't either. Tough world.

 

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I've had interactions with Gen Z in the workplace. I've also interacted with Gen Z females in a mating context.

My Gen Z interactions in a mating context have been rather limited as an older Millennial.

My workplace interactions with Gen Z have been mixed. Some seemed inept and some were ok. In some ways, I've perceived Gen Z as more extreme versions of some of the worst Millennial traits.

A lot of things being said about Gen Z in the 2020s were said about Millennials in the late 2000s-early 2010s.

In the late 1990s, I remember my father complaining about working with 1970s born Generation X'ers and how they were worse workers than most Baby Boomers.
 

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Yes - I find myself ending up anywhere but my computer. I find myself going to the gym, laying in bed all day, or taking a trip somewhere.
Take it from someone who's been there I don't think I'll ever go back to office life and working from home has so many pros it's incredible I don't know if you're a natural introvert like me but I love it!
 

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What do you guys have to say for yourselves? :). The same story plays out right here on SS. Women don't want you and employers don't either. Tough world.

Today's teens and early adolescents are similar to folks of that age, immediately after The Summer Of Love.... Not quite sure if they were boys or girls, and very tough to hire. We're going to have to undergo a cultural shift similar to the one we went through in The 1980s, when moving up the corporate ladder, being a successful entrepreneur, and purchasing a home in a ritzy neighborhood was no longer seen as "normie stuff" anymore

Yes, this had it's problems also, namely the lionization of consumerism. What we're doing today though is living lots of folks on the bottom rung of the socioecomic ladder, and ravaging our economy, in an era where we're facing unprecedented overseas competition from overseas markets
 
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Yes - I find myself ending up anywhere but my computer. I find myself going to the gym, laying in bed all day, or taking a trip somewhere.
As opposed to wasting your time in the office with pointless chit chat, sipping coffee, taking 30 minute shvts, and pretending to look busy all day? No one actually works all day, except hard laborers.
 

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I've had interactions with Gen Z in the workplace. I've also interacted with Gen Z females in a mating context.

My Gen Z interactions in a mating context have been rather limited as an older Millennial.

My workplace interactions with Gen Z have been mixed. Some seemed inept and some were ok. In some ways, I've perceived Gen Z as more extreme versions of some of the worst Millennial traits.

A lot of things being said about Gen Z in the 2020s were said about Millennials in the late 2000s-early 2010s.

In the late 1990s, I remember my father complaining about working with 1970s born Generation X'ers and how they were worse workers than most Baby Boomers.
You make a good point.

When I was 21 or so, I remember hearing about how my age demographic made terrible employees.

Here I am at 33, hearing the same thing about today's early 20-somethings.
 

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Take it from someone who's been there I don't think I'll ever go back to office life and working from home has so many pros it's incredible I don't know if you're a natural introvert like me but I love it!
I'm an introvert...but an introvert who needs to become more comfortable interacting with gals.

If I worked from home, I'd basically never interact with gals in person on workdays.
 

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As opposed to wasting your time in the office with pointless chit chat, sipping coffee, taking 30 minute shvts, and pretending to look busy all day? No one actually works all day, except hard laborers.
That’s a broad generalization and doesn’t apply to what I do.

I understand that working remotely has become a huge part of a lot of people’s lives, and I suppose that a lot of those people who can prove the value of their remote work should have no issue maintaining that lifestyle moving ahead.
 

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As a parent of 3 Gen Z's (from the perspective of a Gen X parent & Greatest Generation grandparents....)

Everything comes down to values. Values and value systems are learned at home in childhood.

My family tends to skip generations. My parents were born in the 1930's (Younger Greatest Generation people) and they had children late - in their 30's. So I am the oldest of 4 Generation Xers. Like my parents (who both had law degrees and valued education), my sisters and I all got degrees and focused on edcation first, financial self sufficiency second, and getting married 3rd. I had my 3 kids in my 30s.

So my family skipped the Baby Boomers, and skipped the Millenials too. So in my family we have Gen Z learning the values from Gen X, who learned values from Greatest Generation individuals.

Interestingly my Gen Z children held their Greatest Generation grandparents in very high esteem and are emulating them. And my ex husband and I have been very open about dealing with people, money, influences and attitudes. I think that has helped.

They have work ethic (my son was regional sales leader in an automotive company as a part time gig while in college), and people skills (my ex husband and I required them to learn to talk to people rather than burying themselves in electronics.)

But here is the biggest thing my kids have learned or are in process of learning:

You are NOT a special snowflake. Neither is mom or dad. The world owes you nothing and does NOT care about you. The world only cares about your results, and will reward you based on your results. So get the right results and the rest will follow suit. That leads into goal settng, achievement mindset and positive thinking.

So if you work hard and work smart and get good results you can make a name for yourself in the world.

And I gave them each a copy of 48 Laws of Power.

I remember my son (in the 8th grade) telling me he wanted to study mechanical engineering at MIT. Here's what I told him:

Ok son. Next year you start high school. It is straight As or bust. In high school your grades count from the get-go"......

Well he got a C in math his first semester as a high school freshman.

So we sat down over the Christmas break. I told him:

Ok son. MIT is off the table. You have not performed well enough to qualify for MIT and you have thrown the chance for that opportunity away. You did not get the result that opportunity REQUIRES for consideration. He wanted to argue.

I explained to him that every kid they accept has straight As. So he is no longer in the running. That was a tough eye opening lesson for him at 13.

But he took it to heart and took his results far more seriously after that.

One final thought: There are lots of crappy, lazy parents out there who are doing a terrible job of preparing teenagers for adulthood. Some of my peers thought my parenting was too tough. But being a parent is about training up the youth to handle adult life, not about being BFFs with your teen. Love them yes, but equip them. That's not easy. My children appreciate those hard lessons as life brings those values into sharp focus.

Just as my parents did for me. My $0.02.
 

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Slave harder, kids...
 

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My parents were born in the 1930's (Younger Greatest Generation people)
That's the Silent Generation. The GI/Greatest Generation was 1910s-early 1920s births. GI/Greatest Generation fought in World War II.

being a parent is about training up the youth to handle adult life, not about being BFFs with your teen. Love them yes, but equip them. That's not easy.
My mom did the majority of my parenting and she made it clear that we weren't friends. I think my mom had a similar ideology.

people skills
Gen Z has not done well with this. My generation (Gen Y/Millennials, 1981-1996 births) has also not done well with this.
 

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Correct. My grandparents were Greatest Generation. My parents were Silent Generation.
 

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The Culture of Narcissism predates today's youth by several decades, clearly
They did pat themselves pretty hard on the back for doing what our revolutionary, civil war, first Great War , and other predecessors did, it is an interesting point.
 

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