Tired of being Fat & Ugly?

BPH

Master Don Juan
Joined
Nov 8, 2010
Messages
2,594
Reaction score
1,217
Location
Wilmington, DE
Just be ugly!!

1737498743004.png

In all seriousness, every man on this forum should go to the gym. Outside of becoming rich and learning how to approach and talk to women, exercising and becoming physically fit is the easiest and fastest way to see a "return on investment" men it comes to getting girls. Short of being physically disabled, there's no reason you shouldn't be working out at least for the purpose of maintaining health. 24-hour gyms exist, home gyms exist, and you really only need about 1 hour 3-5 times per week to see significant changes in a pretty short time.

I have about a half hour before before my shift ends, so I want to write up a quick guide for total beginners.
  • Who?
    • You
  • What?
    • The gym
  • Where?
    • Ideally at the closest commercial gym to where you live
  • When?
    • 3-5 days per week
  • How?
    • By walking inside and doing the exercises
  • Why?
    • So you can get healthier and start sleeping with more women
First, some terminology for the newcomers:

Workout - A complete day of lifting. Finishing a workout means you have completed all reps and sets of the exercises you came to do that day.

Rep - Short for "repetition", referring to how many times a particular exercise motion is performed consecutively before finishing the exercise.

Set - How many times you repeat the amount of reps per exercise. For example, "4 sets of 10" would mean that you do 10 repetitions consecutively per set, 4 times over, for a total of 40 repetitions.

Failure - When no rep count is specified, that means you will perform the exercise until you no longer can. This is often the case with exercises that rely on your body weight, rather than resistance.

Form - Refers to correctly performing an exercise's motions. Form usually suffers when people try to add more weight to an exercise, believing themselves stronger, and compensating throughout the movement to complete the exercise, rather than complete it correctly.

Macros - Carbohydrates, fats, and proteins. It is worth noting that calories are NOT a macro, but a product of the amount of macros you ingest.

The Workout

Starting Strength Beginner Program: https://startingstrength.com/get-started/programs

I've recommended this before, I'll recommend it again. If you have no idea what you're doing in the gym yet, this is the simplest way to start. The basic concept is to alternate between 2 workouts, 3 days per week, comprised of only 3 exercises per day utilizing compound lifts. Compound lifts meaning that each exercise is stressing large/multiple muscle groups at the same time, meaning that you do not need to perform exercises to isolate a particular muscle group (squats are an example of a compound lift which works multiple muscle groups in your legs, while something like leg curls are not because they isolate the hamstrings and do not stress the quadriceps). From that point, you will seek to add between 5-10lbs to your lifts periodically until you reach a point where you cannot complete all reps/sets of that exercise if you were to add weight. This is called reaching a "plateau". If you are new to lifting, you will likely reach this point quickly, but will also move past it quickly.

Let's briefly go over the exercises:

Squat - https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PPmvh7gBTi0

Bench Press - https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hWbUlkb5Ms4

Press (Overhead Press) - https://www.youtube.com/shorts/zoN5EH50Dro

Deadlift - https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZaTM37cfiDs

Power Clean - https://www.youtube.com/shorts/vI7Akim4dKM

Chin Up (NOT Pull Up) - https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Oi3bW9nQmGI

Outside of the actual exercises, diet will definitely come into play. The basic rule is to simply eat fewer calories if you're trying to lose weight, and more if you're trying to gain. A great way to track this is with a free app called MyFitnessPal: https://www.myfitnesspal.com/

If anybody has questions about this, or fitness/health in general as it pertains to the gym, I'd be happy to answer here.
 

zekko

Master Don Juan
Joined
Aug 6, 2009
Messages
16,094
Reaction score
8,949
I've been on that Starting Strength program before, but the way I had heard it, there wasn't any power cleans, I think you did bent over barbell rows every other day instead. Anyway, yeah, a great way to start out.

I like that sign "Tired of being fat and ugly? Just be ugly", lol. Although in my case back in the day, I was too skinny when I started out.
That sign reminds me of those graphs where women don't find men attractive. Even the most attractive men don't score as well as the more attractive women. This has always confused me on what men have to offer. I know it is something, because women have become emotionally attached to me, but I admit I'm a little baffled by it. Women's bodies are works of art, as a man I have a hard time seeing what they see in us, aside from maybe dominance, and opposite-ness.

Seems to me it has to be something beyond looks, although a lot of the manosphere claims the women are more drawn to looks than men are. Also, it used to be the case here that most guys on the forum thought they were way above average looks-wise, despite what statistics say. I don't know if that is still the case, since there are more incels here now. Some explain by saying it's because guys here are more into fitness, but I think it's mostly just ego.

If I could do it all over again, I would have simply bought heavy resistance bands from the outset and skipped the gym completely.
One downside to that is how do you know when the resistance bands have worn out? Can you just say replace them every year, or every six months? They're aren't that expensive to replace, so that's a good thing. Or as heavy to lug around, that's another positive.
 
  • Like
Reactions: BPH

Scaramouche

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jan 27, 2008
Messages
4,094
Reaction score
1,214
Age
80
Location
Australia
Hi BPH,
Most of you won't stick it out,you will drop by the wayside after a couple of years...The secret to an exercise program,is variety and a spread sheet where you may give yourself a score every day....I have been consistantly exercising since the age of fourteen....You need aerobic:Walking,running,cycling,swimming,canoeing combined with a changing variety of free weights,weight stack,bands and the usual calisthenics.Boredem,poor eating habits and excessive work load are the greatest enemies to fitness and longevity....Need I add that chasing Tarts and regular Bed Room workouts,will fool your body into thinking it is younger,encourage you to stay fit.
 
Last edited:

SW15

Master Don Juan
Joined
May 31, 2020
Messages
13,798
Reaction score
11,530
This forum tends to overemphasize lifting weights. Lifting weights is good. I'm not crapping on it. This forum never talks about engaging in sports, either individual or team sports as a form of exercise along lifting weights.

I like some individual sports.

There are options like tennis, running, soccer, swimming, bicycle riding and basketball that are all good for fitness.
 

BadBoy89

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jan 18, 2020
Messages
1,824
Reaction score
2,154
The answer to all of life's problems is the gym.

Can't talk to girls -> hit the gym
Can't get a girlfriend -> hit the gym
Broke up with girlfriend -> hit the gym
Can't get a job -> hit the gym
Lost a job -> hit the gym
Mom passed -> hit the gym
Dad passed -> hit the gym
Stock crashed -> hit the gym
Got in car accident -> hit the gym
Failed math test -> hit the gym
Got girlfriend pregnant -> hit the gym
World War 3 starts -> hit the gym

Rock on!
 

BackInTheGame78

Moderator
Joined
Sep 10, 2014
Messages
14,767
Reaction score
15,978
This forum tends to overemphasize lifting weights. Lifting weights is good. I'm not crapping on it. This forum never talks about engaging in sports, either individual or team sports as a form of exercise along lifting weights.

I like some individual sports.

There are options like tennis, running, soccer, swimming, bicycle riding and basketball that are all good for fitness.
Great way to get injured seriously once you pass 30 or 35.

Not worth the risk, I stopped in my early 30s and never played again
 

BPH

Master Don Juan
Joined
Nov 8, 2010
Messages
2,594
Reaction score
1,217
Location
Wilmington, DE
If I could do it all over again, I would have simply bought heavy resistance bands from the outset and skipped the gym completely.
I disagree with this attitude.

A lot of my best friends I met at the gym. The fraternity I joined I'd chosen because I met a bunch of the brothers at the gym and thought they were chill. My current core friend group consists of somebody I've known since high school because we both played football and went to the gym. Some of the guys I go out with more recently are regulars that I see at the same time when I go to the gym. I reconnected with another good buddy of mine because he goes to this same gym and I had no idea.

Depriving yourself of the social aspect forces you to rely entirely on your own motivation and discipline, which a lot of people will not have at the start.

Seeing the same people and building familiarity, being introduced to new exercises by watching others, being greeted by the front desk attendants who know you by name - all are great feelings that build a sense of community so you'll keep coming. Which you should do.

I've been on that Starting Strength program before, but the way I had heard it, there wasn't any power cleans, I think you did bent over barbell rows every other day instead. Anyway, yeah, a great way to start out.

I like that sign "Tired of being fat and ugly? Just be ugly", lol. Although in my case back in the day, I was too skinny when I started out.
That sign reminds me of those graphs where women don't find men attractive. Even the most attractive men don't score as well as the more attractive women. This has always confused me on what men have to offer. I know it is something, because women have become emotionally attached to me, but I admit I'm a little baffled by it. Women's bodies are works of art, as a man I have a hard time seeing what they see in us, aside from maybe dominance, and opposite-ness.

Seems to me it has to be something beyond looks, although a lot of the manosphere claims the women are more drawn to looks than men are. Also, it used to be the case here that most guys on the forum thought they were way above average looks-wise, despite what statistics say. I don't know if that is still the case, since there are more incels here now. Some explain by saying it's because guys here are more into fitness, but I think it's mostly just ego.


One downside to that is how do you know when the resistance bands have worn out? Can you just say replace them every year, or every six months? They're aren't that expensive to replace, so that's a good thing. Or as heavy to lug around, that's another positive.
There are different variations of Starting Strength, I just posted the most basic program with the fewest things to worry about.

As for the looks thing, everybody has different tastes; I've seen absolute beauties with guys who look like they weigh less than their women. My current FWB has told me several times that she likes it when I'm on top of her because she likes feeling my "heft" as she puts it - my weight on her makes her feel small. I think that ties into women's basic desire to feel like their man could protect them.
 

BackInTheGame78

Moderator
Joined
Sep 10, 2014
Messages
14,767
Reaction score
15,978
I disagree with this attitude.

A lot of my best friends I met at the gym. The fraternity I joined I'd chosen because I met a bunch of the brothers at the gym and thought they were chill. My current core friend group consists of somebody I've known since high school because we both played football and went to the gym. Some of the guys I go out with more recently are regulars that I see at the same time when I go to the gym. I reconnected with another good buddy of mine because he goes to this same gym and I had no idea.

Depriving yourself of the social aspect forces you to rely entirely on your own motivation and discipline, which a lot of people will not have at the start.

Seeing the same people and building familiarity, being introduced to new exercises by watching others, being greeted by the front desk attendants who know you by name - all are great feelings that build a sense of community so you'll keep coming. Which you should do.



There are different variations of Starting Strength, I just posted the most basic program with the fewest things to worry about.

As for the looks thing, everybody has different tastes; I've seen absolute beauties with guys who look like they weigh less than their women. My current FWB has told me several times that she likes it when I'm on top of her because she likes feeling my "heft" as she puts it - my weight on her makes her feel small. I think that ties into women's basic desire to feel like their man could protect them.
I don't go to the gym for social hour at the Ritz Carlton. It's a business trip.

No talking, head down, headphones on, maximum effort, in and out with short rest periods.
 

BPH

Master Don Juan
Joined
Nov 8, 2010
Messages
2,594
Reaction score
1,217
Location
Wilmington, DE
I don't go to the gym for social hour at the Ritz Carlton. It's a business trip.

No talking, head down, headphones on, maximum effort, in and out with short rest periods.
So do I. But you still see regulars. You still ask to work in. You still ask for a spot. You still say hi. And over time if you like those people you can do this thing called "hang out with them".
 

plumber

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Jan 1, 2022
Messages
227
Reaction score
159
Unnecessary and bands are much easier on your joints long term and give you roughly the same results if you know what you are doing.

Plus it's a lot easier working out in your house or garage without having to make a special trip and pay monthly fees.
makes sense. the only negative is that its then another isolated activity. many men are struggling to find things to get involved with others.
 
Top