Maximizing elevator approaches

[sharkfinale]

I live in high rise building. I am new to the building. The building has a few airbnbs that brings in girls regularly. Gym on the top floor, parking lot in the basement. Access to rooftop (with pool) from 7 am to 7 pm.

In-person approach 1: I was coming back from the gym in the building, top most floor. I wait for the elevator. Cute mid-20 something girl steps out. Then gets back in fast. Smiling and mentioned "Wrong floor". But she did not press the button for her floor.

I laughed and asked, where did you get on from?

She said, 'X city'.

I laughed hard and explained my question. She laughed and told 5th. My floor came up and got off the elevator.

In-person 2: Again in the elevator. I was bring something up to my apartment from the my car in parking lot (basement of the building). I was wearing a olive green bomber jacket. There was already a girl in the elevator. She was wearing a green trench coat. I pressed button to my floor. She was again mid 20's. Cute overall, but bordering anorexic, I would say.

She was completely checking me out, after she looked at me a couple of times. I asked "Are we twinning?" pointing at our jackets. She let out a nervous laugh and mentioned "My floor" and got out giving me the side eye. My floor was further up. I just waved.

Did not see both these girls again in the building. probably were airbnb guests or just never crossed paths yet. Saw other girls too in the elevator, but there were others in the elevator. So did not approach them.

I want to improve approaches in elevator. What do I do? Do I ride with them till their floor? If we reach their floor first, do I get down and continue?

Do sharer your thoughts and experiences.

 

[Chow Mein]

They call it elevator pitch for a reason in sales.

Word of choice is very important in the initial interaction. You could have rephrased ‘are we twinning’ with something like ‘looks like we have the same plan’

This leaves the door open for further conversation, leaves you room to talk about this ‘plan’

Don’t ask questions that lead to nothing more than an answer.

 

[CornbreadFed]

You are literally trying to make vintage wine in a prison cell approaching women in the elevator. Other than what you are doing, there’s noting else you can do. Is this your only approach avenue?

 

[sharkfinale]

Is this your only approach avenue?

No. But, I checked airbnb and there are 20+ of them in the building. If I can figure out to shoot fish in this barrel, I need not go fly fishing in the wilderness.

 

[SW15]

I don't recommend men use their apartment complexes or condo complexes for finding dates. That's the definition of crapping where you eat. It might be possible in some larger complexes (200+ units) but it's still improbable and still not the best idea.

In larger apartment communities (I would call that 200+ units), you might be able to justify dating someone in the complex under one of 2 scenarios.

• If you are in a mid-rise or high rise building (4+ stories), the woman lives on a different floor as you do, and you're not likely to ever go to that floor. It's still possible you might run into her in common areas, but some men are comfortable with that risk level, especially if you're only seeing her 1-2 times a month at best.
• If you are in a complex of garden style buildings (multiple 1-3 story buildings), the woman lives a few buildings away and you're not likely to see her walking to/from your car. Like the last scenario, it's still possible to see her in common areas but the risk is mitigated if her building is not close to yours.

Since this is a high rise, it is likely 200+ units. That works in your favor.

The Airbnbs in the building ensure some shorter term females, so that also works in your favor. Are you sure that your approaches in the first post have all been on shorter term Airbnb women and not longer term resident women?

In an elevator, you are going to have to go very direct on your opener, ask for the date immediately, and collect the number before she goes away. That's a tall order.

 

[Jor-El]

Well. The elavator approach as many ups and downs I guess...is it wrong on many levels ?

 

[sharkfinale]

Are you sure that your approaches in the first post have all been on shorter term Airbnb women and not longer term resident women?

I cannot be 100% sure, all cues point to yes. I have not seen them after those interactions. But it is 12 story building and over 200 units it is easy to never meet the same people again. Single building, not garden.

I am thinking always to press the rooftop or the basement button when I see lone approachable woman, to maximize the time.

ask for the date immediately

And always end with have you seen the pool/rooftop? question and try to wrangle an instant rooftop date.

If they are long term residents, they have seen the pool. So that question can weed them out.

 

[BeExcellent]

Advice from the old lady:

For the green jackets...."Nice jacket. I see you got the memo" (grin). "How do you like the building?"

Then she can answer, giving you info.

 

[pipeman84]

No. But, I checked airbnb and there are 20+ of them in the building. If I can figure out to shoot fish in this barrel, I need not go fly fishing in the wilderness.

What are the odds that those women rented the airbnb just to go up and down on the elevator, hoping to be approached by a stranger?

 

[The Duke]

Just ask Steven Tyler

 

[BPH]

Elevator approaches seem like one of the worst ideas ever...

Either the conversation gets cut short because one of you gets out first.

Or you both get out on the same floor and have that awkward walk and talk where she's not sure if she wants you to know where she lives yet.

 

[Sega Genesis]

In an elevator, you are going to have to go very direct on your opener, ask for the date immediately, and collect the number before she goes away.

As a woman I agree with this^.

Allow me to share my story about a man I dated for approximately three months who I met in my office building's elevator.

This is taken directly from my post on another forum.

^^^"I met him on the elevator today; he's super tall, good looking (to me), he has a bit of a man bun, which I never really liked on a guy, but looks good on him. With him was a BIG dog and the dog seemed to like me, jumping on me etc, so that's how we got to talking.

He mentioned HH from 4:00 - 7::00, told me to stop by, he'd buy me a drink and I smiled and said without even thinking about it "sure, they've got great nachos too"!

He smiled at me as he got off the elevator and said "see ya soon." With a wink.<<

I ended up going, we clicked and dated for approximately three months until I discovered some disturbing news about him that didn't sit right with me.

The point is, you don't have much time to chit chat or develop rapport, you gotta act quickly and directly!

 

[SW15]

The point is, you don't have much time to chit chat or develop rapport, you gotta act quickly and directly!

Yes.

I prefer approach situations where I can have a semi-extended conversation to assess compatibility, then offer a first date. I prefer a 5-10 minute conversation. My goal is not only to arrange first dates. My goal is to arrange first dates that will result in second dates. I want to have extended interactions.

I think I have a better chance of getting that second date if I have a longer initial approach conversation.

That's not happening on an elevator.

 

[Sega Genesis]

Yes.

I prefer approach situations where I can have a semi-extended conversation to assess compatibility, then offer a first date. I prefer a 5-10 minute conversation. My goal is not only to arrange first dates. My goal is to arrange first dates that will result in second dates. I want to have extended interactions.

I think I have a better chance of getting that second date if I have a longer initial approach conversation.

That's not happening on an elevator.

In my case, there was a very brief interaction as his dog was jumping all over me lol, and we were both kinda laughing.

I suppose he thought "I'm gonna shoot my shot" so he mentioned the HH, said he'd buy me a drink.

I liked his bold no nonsense style, the bar was within walking distance to my apartment so I went.

It was all very spontaneous which I like!

My friends gave me a hard time about going but I didn't care, I make my own rules.

 

[plumber]

My friends gave me a hard time about going but I didn't care, I make my own rules.

What did the friends say?

It seems smart on your part to accept an offer if the guy passed your first impression filter. This is the way to meet men that are perhaps different than the others you don't want. As they may never be in the same places you would usually go.

 

[Sega Genesis]

What did the friends say?

Well a few said I would be "disrespecting" myself as a man who was truly interested would have asked for my number and scheduled a "proper" date in advance.

 

[BeExcellent]

Well a few said I would be "disrespecting" myself as a man who was truly interested would have asked for my number and scheduled a "proper" date in advance.

Agree with you. Life is not scripted. It worked. I met my husband the same night the LTR before him ended. I was unattached for something ridiculous, like 2 hours. It happened randomly and unexpectedly. He straight away asked me out the next morning & it developed & here we are.

Common advice would have been to decline my husband's request for a date & wait & all that. Life is too short & opportunities may not wait around, so for guys, you gotta shoot your shot. For women, you've got to say yes when something that appeals to you presents itself.

Much of life is like that. Many decisions that have had tremendous impact are made in a moment of clarity as you follow the right opportunities.

 

[SW15]

I was unattached for something ridiculous, like 2 hours.

That wouldn't even be enough time to contact any orbiters that might have existed and set things up.

Elevator approaches seem like one of the worst ideas ever...

Either the conversation gets cut short because one of you gets out first.

Even in a commercial mid rise or high rise building, they are tough to do.

I have done something like start a conversation in the elevator on the way down after a work day and continue it in the lobby.

In an office building, the common lobby/first floor areas are good places to do approaches. It's generally better to be away from the elevators.

 

[Sega Genesis]

@SW15 I think it can work when it's unplanned and spontaneous.

If a man's goal is hitting on chicks on an elevator, unless he's extremely smooth, his approach is gonna come off contrived and unnatural in most cases, imo and experience.

With the guy I dated, it was all very spontaneous, his dog jumped on me, I reacted, he took advantage of an opportunity and suggested the Happy Hour and that was that.

He had nothing to lose by suggesting it and I had nothing to lose by going.

 

[SW15]

I think it can work when it's unplanned and spontaneous.

If a man's goal is hitting on chicks on an elevator, unless he's extremely smooth, his approach is gonna come off contrived and unnatural in most cases, imo and experience.

Having a successful elevator approach in either a residential or commercial building is going to be a challenge.

A good non-bar approacher will make their approaches look unplanned and spontaneous, even if they are doing dedicated approach sessions.

I have had women text me that they enjoyed how they met me in such an unplanned and spontaneous manner, even though I was doing an approach session that day.

Fewer men now do dedicated approach sessions in non-bar venues. That's always been a niche activity and it's an even smaller niche now.

Doing approach sessions is a difficult path. An approacher might need to linger in a grocery store, mall, or bookstore for 2+ hours to get in some approaches. Those approaches might not even lead to arranging a date. The same thing would happen outdoors on a dedicated approach session.

Good approachers are always ready to make an approach and make it look spontaneous, as I have done. It takes time to get to that point.

Most women will get approached more at bars and virtually approached on the swipe apps as compared to non-bar approaching.