Wes Watson gym violence

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Wes Watson and his 4 boys jumped an idiot in a gym. They are pressing charges. I hope Wes goes back to prison.

Only cowards jump other men. I will never understand how you can jump someone and then feel tough. As a guy who got bullied as a kid I hate bullies.

If Wes was really a tough guy he could have joined a boxing or MMA league and proven himself.

Men are better than women but not by much. Here is part of the video. The dude is crying. Not cool.

 

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Wes Watson and his 4 boys jumped an idiot in a gym. They are pressing charges. I hope Wes goes back to prison.

Only cowards jump other men. I will never understand how you can jump someone and then feel tough. As a guy who got bullied as a kid I hate bullies.

If Wes was really a tough guy he could have joined a boxing or MMA league and proven himself.

Men are better than women but not by much. Here is part of the video. The dude is crying. Not cool.

In the full video, the guy came after him first. The whole thing looks like a setup, like that dude wanted to get his a55 kicked so he could sue, or someone put him up to it.

That doesn't make what Wes did OK, and it isn't self defense when the other guy stops fighting back.

 

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In the full video, the guy came after him first. The whole thing looks like a setup, like that dude wanted to get his a55 kicked so he could sue, or someone put him up to it.

That doesn't make what Wes did OK, and it isn't self defense when the other guy stops fighting back.

I agree the dude that challenged and pushed Wes is also at fault. Did you see the extended video where they jumped him?

The victim released his video showing him being attacked by multiple guys in the gang.

Yeh but that guy is gonna come out with some money. This was a bad move for Wes but he actually has NPD personality disorder so what do you expect right.
 

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I agree the dude that challenged and pushed Wes is also at fault. Did you see the extended video where they jumped him?

The victim released his video showing him being attacked by multiple guys in the gang.

Yeh but that guy is gonna come out with some money. This was a bad move for Wes but he actually has NPD personality disorder so what do you expect right.
I really liked Wes, his early videos are something every guy should watch. I'm disappointed that he couldn't see this bullsh1t trap coming.

To put a psa message in this thread, self defense doesn't mean "he deserved it." If you are walking in public with an elderly relative and an assailant comes up and punches her in the face, he deserves to get his a55 kicked. But when you go to deliver that much deserved beating and he throws his hands up in surrender, you just lost the law being on your side. Now it's a battery charge for you. Wes used to make videos on this topic.
 

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I really liked Wes, his early videos are something every guy should watch. I'm disappointed that he couldn't see this bullsh1t trap coming.

To put a psa message in this thread, self defense doesn't mean "he deserved it." If you are walking in public with an elderly relative and an assailant comes up and punches her in the face, he deserves to get his a55 kicked. But when you go to deliver that much deserved beating and he throws his hands up in surrender, you just lost the law being on your side. Now it's a battery charge for you. Wes used to make videos on this topic.
Yeh man i agree about the self defense stuff. Hey do you think Wes has a personality disorder? Or is his early stuff more relatable.

I ask because sometimes he just seems unhinged man. Yelling at his paying customers. Trying to bully Andrew on stage etc.
 

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But when you go to deliver that much deserved beating and he throws his hands up in surrender, you just lost the law being on your side. Now it's a battery charge for you. Wes used to make videos on this topic.
Really? So if someone attacks you and you fight back and start gaining the upper hand, all he has to do is trow his hands up and you're supposed to immediately back away? To give him a chance to rest and attack you again? It's not quite that simple.
 

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This is where knowing certain styles like Aikido, wrestling or brazilian jiujitsu comes in handy. All he had to do was throw a few jabs for distraction and swiftly pin him down to the ground for a hold / submission and wait for the authorities and staff….to take care of the situation, kicking someones butt violently these days is a great way to get a lawsuit filed against you.
 

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Really? So if someone attacks you and you fight back and start gaining the upper hand, all he has to do is trow his hands up and you're supposed to immediately back away? To give him a chance to rest and attack you again? It's not quite that simple.
Regarding legality, it is that simple. This is one of the examples where the law differs from what most people consider fair and just. Law schools hammer home the point that no one cares what you think is fair, all that matters is the law.


"The use of force in self-defense loses justification once the threat has ended. For example, if an aggressor assaults a victim but then stops doing so and indicates that there is no longer any threat of violence, the threat of danger has ended. Any use of force by the victim against the perpetrator at that point is retaliatory and not self-defense."
 

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Regarding legality, it is that simple. This is one of the examples where the law differs from what most people consider fair and just. Law schools hammer home the point that no one cares what you think is fair, all that matters is the law.


"The use of force in self-defense loses justification once the threat has ended. For example, if an aggressor assaults a victim but then stops doing so and indicates that there is no longer any threat of violence, the threat of danger has ended. Any use of force by the victim against the perpetrator at that point is retaliatory and not self-defense."
While self defence laws differ by country and state, most common law jurisdictions recognize that a person in a threatening situation does not have to “weigh to a nicety” precisely how much force is necessary for self defence. It's not always clear when the threat has ended.
 
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