We must open our horizons and date internationally

[BackInTheGame78]

Bro dudes wont know until they do it. Its no better feeling than having a cute 7/10 in love with you in an exotic location. Shes just impressed that you took her out to dinner and treat her good. She also does not even know how to spell patriarchy.

There is an innocence with many of these chicks. Especially the ones that come from smaller remote towns.

GeoMaxxing showed me that the world is huge. There are a lot of pretty women that are dying for a decent man. Many of them will die unmarried. Women are not the prize internationally. Us men are the prize. A good man is rare. The USA just opposite land.

They are playing you for a fool until it's too late.

 

[Pandora]

I feel you. Another important thing tho: I have to say that the way CB described that situation of being a " male 7" is mandatory to pull this off. So you gotta be somewhat good-looking, experienced and gamed up. Otherwise you're screwed.

With cleaners I mean that the initial 50k investment in some punani is poof vanished because she has the same whims that every woman can get. Again, assuming she comes home with you.

And lets be real: the pressure of moving to your first world country instead of staying in her shytehole country will also be like water trying to push through a dam. It's the most " logical " thing to do (on her eyes).

I rather pick my poison limited . And be my won doctor. I think the antidote to that poison is to never stop fighting for the best version of yourself.

Yes you are 100% right. This passport thing works well IF you stay in her nation and if you have some sort of income source. I got lucky because my girl can never come here. Not without a lot of money thrown at the issue. We are planning on moving to a third nation together but it is tricky right now.

I also agree that you have to be good with women in the USA in order to pull this off. You cant be a loser in the USA and expect to win overseas. I was always decent with women. My issue in life is not charisma it is finances. If you are good with women in the USA and have a pension then why not go overseas?

As to your last point, I really dont see how you can win the USA. I am in my late 30s. I missed the boat on a quality girl. I should have locked one down by 27 instead of being a man whor. Do you really want a woman in her 30s in the USA? She is too indoctrinated. She will never let you lead. She has already found the man she loves.

 

[Pandora]

They are playing you for a fool until it's too late.

Bro you are the most negative person on this forum. How do you know they are playing the guy for a fool? How can they play you for a fool if you dont marry under USA law? You are the fool to keeping chasing American girls lol. You are chasing the hooes of the world.

You are also getting divorced raped by the hooes of the world. Yet I am the fool. Werent you married once?

You are also dating the ugliest women on earth. American women are some of the least attractive because they dont care about their clothes or weight.

Please stop. You will lose this debate 10 out of 10 times.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Bro you are the most negative person on this forum. How do you know they are playing the guy for a fool? How can they play you for a fool if you dont marry under USA law. You are the fool to keeping chasing American girls lol. You are chasing the hooes of the world.

You are also getting divorced raped by the hooes of the world. Yet I am the fool. Werent you married once?

You are also dating the ugliest women on earth. American women are some of the least attractive because they dont care about their clothes or weight.

Please stop. You will lose this debate 10 out of 10 times.

Hey, if all you were able to get in the US were tele-tubbies, then that's on you.

Don't project your success or lack there of on others.

Not being negative, just being truthful. This movie has been played over and over again and the ending has already been written.

Women are women. When they realize they no longer have to be concerned with survival or getting out of a terrible situation, then you'll see their true side.

Until then, they are showing you exactly what you want to see and telling you exactly what you want to hear. All to ensure they get what they want. Once they do then you'll see what time it is.

Hey, maybe you'll be one of the few where they are willing to overlook a lot of things. I wouldn't bet on it tho.

 

[Gamisch]

Yes you are 100% right. This passport thing works well IF you stay in her nation and if you have some sort of income source. I got lucky because my girl can never come here. Not without a lot of money thrown at the issue. We are planning on moving to a third nation together but it is tricky right now.

I also agree that you have to be good with women in the USA in order to pull this off. You cant be a loser in the USA and expect to win overseas. I was always decent with women. My issue in life is not charisma it is finances. If you are good with women in the USA and have a pension then why not go overseas?

As to your last point, I really dont see how you can win the USA. I am in my late 30s. I missed the boat on a quality girl. I should have locked one down by 27 instead of being a man whor. Do you really want a woman in her 30s in the USA? She is too indoctrinated. She will never let you lead. She has already found the man she loves.

I found the "love of my life" twice actually. Stayed with them for like...12 years in total ,became a father ect BUT my point is this:

there's a big change that IF you found her back then ,that the relationship would've died by now...just pointing that out. By now you would have to fend for yourself either way...those single moms have exes/ baby daddies like me.. a child will NOT keep two people together these days.

Just saying..grass isn't always greener

 

[Pandora]

Hey, if all you were able to get in the US were tele-tubbies, then that's on you.

Don't project your success or lack there of on others.

Not being negative, just being truthful. This movie has been played over and over again and the ending has already been written.

Women are women. When they realize they no longer have to be concerned with survival or getting out of a terrible situation, then you'll see their true side.

Until then, they are showing you exactly what you want to see and telling you exactly what you want to hear.

All I could get in the US was teletubbies? I have my profile picture up. Can you put up yours? Ask your girl if I am ugly ( if you have one). I promise you that you wont leave me alone with your girl goofy.

I am a passport bro because I was successful with the US women. Was I the most successful no, but I did ok. I have seen a lot. I know a losing game when I see one. The fact that most men dont even want to learn seduction anymore proves me right. This forum used to get a lot more traffic.

Every woman is a snake to some degree. How is this different than the girls in the USA? The only difference is that if she does leave me I dont have to deal with big daddy govt extorting me.

Bro we are up here writing field reports on how to date over weight feminist with 40+ body counts who say that you are the enemy. When there is an American dude in Japan right now who is getting everyhole of a hot Japanese. Do you see the problem? At some point it is just masochism.

Even if you dont marry the foreign girls I encourage every young man to go abroad at least once.

 

[Pandora]

Look most relationships fail. Most marriages end. I dont expect mine to last 40 yrs. Or even 20. But at least I can say that I respected myself by not chasing after fat feminist my whole life. Most American men will never experience a pretty girl who lets him lead. Who is also grateful that you are spending money and time with her.

I know a guy that used to be homeless in the USA. He moves to Colombia and he is dating cute women. Too many of them. These women are relatively submissive too ( some are).

I think American men have a collective Stockholm Syndrome. They think that they somehow deserve to be treated disposable. You are not a victim. You are a willing participant. This is why American women dont respect us. We dont respect ourselves.

10 more years of men going overseas and you will start seeing American women shape up. Competition anxiety is the best revenge.

 

[DreamAgain]

@Pandora you bring up a lot of good points, however, I have tried what you have done but ran into roadblocks. How would you recommend I (or anyone considering going abroad) overcome them:

A lot of these countries where the cost of living is cheaper come with significant problems. Major corruption, health services are poor at best and if you have any more serious medical condition you may be completely doomed in terms of treatment options, schools are of questionable quality at best, food is increasingly becoming americanized as well.

The justice system will not do anything but screw you over if you don't have connections or aren't willing to bribe people.

Your income being much smaller, you are sacrificing your freedom for the future if things go downhill as well. Your ability to provide for your family on a lesser income is compromised significantly too.

I do not have enough net worth to live passively off of investments, so finding some sort of online income is the best way to earn enough, but that is quickly drying up as well with many companies mandating return to office.

Further, going anywhere that is not an individualist society like the united states makes it difficult to integrate. People are more distrustful of strangers and people outside their immediate social circles. Making friends to actually have people to go out with is much tougher. Further, women are more inherently distrustful of you as a foreigner in their country, even if you manage to become fairly fluent in the language.

 

[BadBoy89]

This reminds me of an Inside the NBA episode where they were talking about Zion Williamson's weight. He couldn't get it under control.

Chuck said: "They said he can work it out in Portland."
Kenny said: "Yeah I did read that, that was weird."
Chuck said "What, they think they don't have food in Portland?"

 

[Pandora]

@Pandora you bring up a lot of good points, however, I have tried what you have done but ran into roadblocks. How would you recommend I (or anyone considering going abroad) overcome them:

A lot of these countries where the cost of living is cheaper come with significant problems. Major corruption, health services are poor at best and if you have any more serious medical condition you may be completely doomed in terms of treatment options, schools are of questionable quality at best, food is increasingly becoming americanized as well.

The justice system will not do anything but screw you over if you don't have connections or aren't willing to bribe people.

Your income being much smaller, you are sacrificing your freedom for the future if things go downhill as well. Your ability to provide for your family on a lesser income is compromised significantly too.

I do not have enough net worth to live passively off of investments, so finding some sort of online income is the best way to earn enough, but that is quickly drying up as well with many companies mandating return to office.

Further, going anywhere that is not an individualist society like the united states makes it difficult to integrate. People are more distrustful of strangers and people outside their immediate social circles. Making friends to actually have people to go out with is much tougher. Further, women are more inherently distrustful of you as a foreigner in their country, even if you manage to become fairly fluent in the language.

This is all very true. I dont have an answer to this. I really dont. I will run into this. All I know for sure is that the women are better. They are still women..but they are better.

As far as the day to day living..I dont know how to figure that out. I will see. My plan may crash and burn. I am willing to take that risk.

Its a catch 22 situation. You stay here you marry a fat feminist that will divorce you. You go there the women are tolerable but the quality of life stinks. Pick your poison.

 

[CornbreadFed]

But hey no offense to you. Im sorry if I came off douchey but if we meet one day I will set up a international profile for you lol.

I have been to southeast Asia & Eastern Europe and I have never experienced any of these easy layups y'all are talking about lol. I do get IOI's and have no issues getting women here in the US, so I just do not understand how this can be reversed unless these guys are using their wallets.

 

[Pandora]

This reminds me of an Inside the NBA episode where they were talking about Zion Williamson's weight. He couldn't get it under control.

Chuck said: "They said he can work it out in Portland."
Kenny said: "Yeah I did read that, that was weird."
Chuck said "What, they think they don't have food in Portland?"

This is funny. So essentially you are saying that the reason I dont have any marriageable prospects in the USA is because of me. Nothing to do with American women being degenerates. Gotya.

Yet I go overseas and within 1 yr I find a girl that I want to marry. Makes sense.

That joke actually made me chuckle. What ever happened to Zion?

 

[CornbreadFed]

@Pandora you bring up a lot of good points, however, I have tried what you have done but ran into roadblocks. How would you recommend I (or anyone considering going abroad) overcome them:

A lot of these countries where the cost of living is cheaper come with significant problems. Major corruption, health services are poor at best and if you have any more serious medical condition you may be completely doomed in terms of treatment options, schools are of questionable quality at best, food is increasingly becoming americanized as well.

The justice system will not do anything but screw you over if you don't have connections or aren't willing to bribe people.

Your income being much smaller, you are sacrificing your freedom for the future if things go downhill as well. Your ability to provide for your family on a lesser income is compromised significantly too.

I do not have enough net worth to live passively off of investments, so finding some sort of online income is the best way to earn enough, but that is quickly drying up as well with many companies mandating return to office.

Further, going anywhere that is not an individualist society like the united states makes it difficult to integrate. People are more distrustful of strangers and people outside their immediate social circles. Making friends to actually have people to go out with is much tougher. Further, women are more inherently distrustful of you as a foreigner in their country, even if you manage to become fairly fluent in the language.

This is pretty much what my friend complains about lol.

 

[Pandora]

I have been to southeast Asia & Eastern Europe and I have never experienced any of these easy layups y'all are talking about lol. I do get IOI's and have no issues getting women here in the US, so I just do not understand how this can be reversed unless these guys are using their wallets.

Maybe you not that good looking. If you went to Southeast Asia as a white dude and still didnt get any play then maybe its you playa. In Eastern Europe of course you wont get any play. You look like everyone else.

You need to go where you are exotic. Btw when you went on these trips were you actually hanging out with the locals? Where you going to bars and clubs? Where you on any dating apps? If you were on dating apps in those nations you would have had layups for sure. I think you are not telling the whole truth.

You get all these IOIs from American women yet you still not married with kids yet. Do you see how yall are making my point?

 

[Pandora]

This is pretty much what my friend complains about lol.

But that has nothing to do with the women. My original point was that the WOMEN were better. I said nothing about the logistics of living there. Again the women are actually women. If you want modern living go to Japan, Germany, Sweden etc. ..they are all better than USA women.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Maybe you not that good looking. If you went to Southeast Asia as a white dude and still didnt get any play then maybe its you playa. In Eastern Europe of course you wont get any play. You look like everyone else.

You need to go where you are exotic. Btw when you went on this trips were you actually hanging out with the locals? Where you going to bars are clubs? Where you on any dating apps? If you were on dating apps in those nations you would have had layups for sure. I think you are not telling the whole truth.

You get all these IOIs from American women yet you still not married with kids yet. Do you see how yall are making my point?

I'm a 6ft black guy that looks like Caleb Williams with dreads. I get hit on by women at least twice a week. My GF is East Asian, so I am not actively in the game anymore, but I'm still a flirt . Most women I have dated have been from other countries like Poland, Australia, Argentina, and etc but they were in the US.

 

[Pandora]

I have been to southeast Asia & Eastern Europe and I have never experienced any of these easy layups y'all are talking about lol. I do get IOI's and have no issues getting women here in the US, so I just do not understand how this can be reversed unless these guys are using their wallets.

Are you saying most the guys slaying in Colombia are only using their wallets? Or most of the guys slaying in Thailand are only using their wallets? You cant really believe that.

The white guys in Japan that kill it are using their wallets? The white dudes in South Korea that kill it are only using their wallets? Bro.

My homeless friend has smashed more latinas than both of us combined did it in Colombia. He has no money. In fact he asks people for money. Many girls are just fascinated by Americans. They view us as exotic. You dont need wallet game.

 

[Pandora]

I'm a 6ft black guy that looks like Caleb Williams with dreads. I get hit on by women at least twice a week. My GF is East Asian, so I am not actively in the game anymore, but I'm still a flirt . Most women I have dated have been from other countries like Poland, Australia, Argentina, and etc but they were in the US.

Bro you are black?? You type like you are white. Your name sounds white lol. You also argue like a Cornbreadfed white dude. You profile pic also looks like some white people stuff.

 

[Pandora]

My GF is East Asian, so I am not actively in the game anymore, but I'm still a flirt . Most women I have dated have been from other countries like Poland, Australia, Argentina, and etc but they were in the US.

So most of the women you dated are foreign yet you argue with me when I say that foreign women are easier to date?? Wow. The internet I swear.

You just proved my point. What are you arguing about? You are weird brother.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Look most relationships fail. Most marriages end. I dont expect mine to last 40 yrs. Or even 20. But at least I can say that I respected myself by not chasing after fat feminist my whole life. Most American men will never experience a pretty girl who lets him lead. Who is also grateful that you are spending money and time with her.

I know a guy that used to be homeless in the USA. He moves to Colombia and he is dating cute women. Too many of them. These women are relatively submissive too ( some are).

I think American men have a collective Stockholm Syndrome. They think that they somehow deserve to be treated disposable. You are not a victim. You are a willing participant. This is why American women dont respect us. We dont respect ourselves.

10 more years of men going overseas and you will start seeing American women shape up. Competition anxiety is the best revenge.

See here is the thing most people don't seem to understand.

You attract what you believe in life. That's how it works, your mind ensures it happens.

If you believe all American women are trash, then your mind will ensure you attract trash.

Then it simply becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.

If you claim that all American women are trash, I would claim that you should try dating them once you remove your self-limiting belief system.