How to make things forward on phone?

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Last weekend I went in another city, and I found this beautiful woman a the bar. I had to approach her, we started to talk, drinking togeter. After an hour I had to go and I asked her phone, another woman (much uglier) approached me during the phone exchange, wanting to give me her phone too. I saw this as an opportunity to higher my status by giving the beautifull woman the image of me "having many girls". So basically I exchanged both the number with both the girls, one in front of the other.

After I leaved the place, I remain in contact with both of them, but I am not very interested in the uglier one, while I really like the other one. And now that I am in my city I would like to plan to met up with this woman, but to come at her place it requires 2 hour of train, so is not something so "functional".

We had a couple of chat (I met her 3 weeks ago), and she says I am very beautifull, she was asking me if I met the other girl, and also that she is ensure of her self, because she want to focus of the job, and she is also scared that I might betray her with a younger and more beautiful woman.

I make things clear. I told her that I like her, and that I want to share time with her to se if we match, and that I am looking for a healthy relationship with a healthy woman, I made things cleare that I don't accept fights, useless drama and problems (like my ex girlfriend use to). But now is about 3 day. I am not sure of how make things farward. Should just wait her to engage a conversation to see if she is really interested? Or should I push the things in some way?

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After an hour I had to go and I asked her phone, another woman (much uglier) approached me during the phone exchange, wanting to give me her phone too. I saw this as an opportunity to higher my status by giving the beautifull woman the image of me "having many girls". So basically I exchanged both the number with both the girls, one in front of the other.
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go outside and get some* girls.
Maybe you should read my posts, you might learn something.

EDIT: Here, I did it for you...


 
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Maybe you should read my posts, you might learn something.

EDIT: Here, I did it for you...


I like to learn, thanks for your share, I'll read these posts
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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Last weekend I went in another city, and I found this beautiful woman a the bar. I had to approach her, we started to talk, drinking togeter. After an hour I had to go and I asked her phone, another woman (much uglier) approached me during the phone exchange, wanting to give me her phone too. I saw this as an opportunity to higher my status by giving the beautifull woman the image of me "having many girls". So basically I exchanged both the number with both the girls, one in front of the other.
How exactly is that going to heighten your status?
 

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When women see that a man have option, they feel this man is preselected, so his value is boosted. Correct me if I am wrong
Options boosting your status is real enough, but the boost depends on the quality of the options that you have, not on the quantity.

From your perspective, you feel you 'heightened' your status by giving that other less attractive woman your number, in front of the beautiful girl. I think you did not heighten your status. I think you actually diminished your status.

Let me show you what I read from the perspective of the 'beautiful girl':
Last weekend I went in another city, and I found this beautiful woman a the bar. I had to approach her, we started to talk, drinking togeter. After an hour I had to go and I asked her phone,
Before you exchanged phone numbers, you spent an hour building up a status in the mind of the 'beautiful girl'.
She feels good about that, it's great to be selected by a high status man. So when you want to exchange numbers with her with the intent to continue the contact, she feels special. In her mind 'a selective high status man invested an hour interacting with her and now he wants to invest more time in me by giving me his contact info."
She feels special, selected by a desirable man. You're obviously a man who discerns quality.

Then a less attractive girl just pops up out of nowhere and asks you for your number at the same time as you are going to give the beautiful woman you selected this 'prize'.
I saw this as an opportunity to higher my status by giving the beautifull woman the image of me "having many girls". So basically I exchanged both the number with both the girls, one in front of the other.
Does the beautiful girl feel more special now or less special? My guess is 'less special'. Apparently you exchange your contact info with just any girl that asked for it, without looking at her qualifications.

There was an opportunity to heighten your status. The opportunity was in heighten the status of the beautiful girl, by making her feel selected and special more than the other girl, by denying the other girl your contact info. By denying her the privilege to know your private contact info that you only extend to the special people in your inner circle. Like the beautiful woman you just invested an hour in getting to know her.

Information is power. Why are non-famous people proud to have the contact info of a celebrity? Because celebrities are high value individuals who do not give out their contact info to everyone. The ability to contact this high value individual raises your status.

It may be true that your status is boosted by having options, that it relies heavily on the desirability of these options. Giving your number to random women shows a lack of discernment and will lower your status rather than heighten it. Yes, you have options, but they're not desirable. And they don't need to earn your attention and validation, so you're nothing special either. Not the high value man she took you to be.

Everyone wants attention and validation, but they need to 'earn' that. Earned validation is more valuable and makes the recipient feel special.
When this beautiful woman earned your validation and feels special, and then you show that she didn't need to earn it because you'd give the same attention to random women who approach you, it sharply decreases the value of your attention and validation.
So I would say, your actions diminished your status.

Every approach can be handled in a classy way or a trashy way. Depending on circumstances, either approach can benefit you, depending on the outcome you desire. In the circumstances you describe, I would've gone for the classy way.
 
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Thanks I am reading with interest, I see what you mean, and it make sense.
SO I'll try to "select" better. But I would like to bring the topic to his original question: how to move things forward with a woman on texting? She was very constant, and now she is gosting. Should I wait or should I push forward ?
 
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Should I wait or should I push forward ?
You say she's 'ghosting' over text. Without reading the actual texts, I cannot say where things took a wrong turn or even if they did. There could be another reason for her to go incommunicado.

I'm thinking that maybe you might have become too comfortable with texting her. Who initiates texting sessions, you or her?

As to your next step, you have to reconsider how you want to project your imago of a high value man. Like I wrote in a previous comment, you have to behave more like a celebrity: would a high value man with a harem of valuable options have given that second woman the same consideration as the beautiful woman? No, he wouldn't. You have to earn his attention and validation, and she didn't deserve his attention. In fact, asking for a celebrity's private contact info while he's standing there with his paramour is beyond rude. She didn't deserve your attention, you should've told her she was intruding and to go away.
Rejecting the rude girl would've shown the beautiful woman your higher status: you have standards and you make other people respect your boundaries. And you're obviously living in abundance when you don't worry about rejecting someone's approach and 'missing out' on whatever the rude girl had to offer. You didn't select her and she didn't nothing to earn your attention and validation.
 
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Men frequently err by talking too much. They often monopolize conversations, droning on and on about topics that bore women to tears. They think they're impressing the women when, in reality, they're depressing the women.

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Last weekend I went in another city, and I found this beautiful woman a the bar. I had to approach her, we started to talk, drinking togeter. After an hour I had to go and I asked her phone, another woman (much uglier) approached me during the phone exchange, wanting to give me her phone too. I saw this as an opportunity to higher my status by giving the beautifull woman the image of me "having many girls". So basically I exchanged both the number with both the girls, one in front of the other.

After I leaved the place, I remain in contact with both of them, but I am not very interested in the uglier one, while I really like the other one. And now that I am in my city I would like to plan to met up with this woman, but to come at her place it requires 2 hour of train, so is not something so "functional".

We had a couple of chat (I met her 3 weeks ago), and she says I am very beautifull, she was asking me if I met the other girl, and also that she is ensure of her self, because she want to focus of the job, and she is also scared that I might betray her with a younger and more beautiful woman.

I make things clear. I told her that I like her, and that I want to share time with her to se if we match, and that I am looking for a healthy relationship with a healthy woman, I made things cleare that I don't accept fights, useless drama and problems (like my ex girlfriend use to). But now is about 3 day. I am not sure of how make things farward. Should just wait her to engage a conversation to see if she is really interested? Or should I push the things in some way?

Thanks for your answers
Maybe I'm missing something here, simply figure out a time and a place and ask her out. I'd make it somewhere halfway between both of you.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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"found this beautiful woman a the bar. I had to approach her, we started to talk, drinking togeter. After an hour I had to go and I asked her phone, another woman (much uglier) approached me during the phone exchange, wanting to give me her phone too."

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I don't understand whats the problem with what I said, I got a woman number and than she blacklisted me. But you all say it never happened........ ok, I'll take it, but really, if the thones in this forum are all like this, I don't see the point of this forum...... exactley what is the purpose of this forum? To help or to "shame" people?

I think there is a middle way between "to be a little crying girly" and to be a "tought mean super masculine man", and none of these option are really helpfull. But if the price I have to pay to get some good answer is to read many "super masculine tought mean nonesense" so bee it

I would also say that is very tiring to even respond to all of this, and even just to read. But ok, I'll take it like a therapy, by reading it, stay with it, and not getting triggered by it. This is also a way to grow
 

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I don't understand whats the problem with what I said, I got a woman number and than she blacklisted me. But you all say it never happened........ ok, I'll take it, but really, if the thones in this forum are all like this, I don't see the point of this forum...... exactley what is the purpose of this forum? To help or to "shame" people?
You got serious answers and you should ignore the naysayers. Instead, you ignore the serious answers and get peeved over the negative behaviour. 'We' are not 'all' like 'this', but you seem to focus on being a victim by paying attention to the negative instead of the positive.
 
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