Pregnancy Announcements Everywhere! Life When Your Blue Pill Social Circle Starts Having Babies

[GoodMan32]

In considering my co-workers at jobs since I've turned 30, most were blue pilled married males and married females.

The vast majority of my male co-workers seemed like typically blue pill ideology towards relationships guys. The majority of male co-workers across jobs were in longer term marriages. I don't think having a blue pill ideology was as much of a bigger deal for my older co-workers, mainly Boomer and earlier Gen X co-workers.

I suspected one unmarried male co-worker in a past job was incel/borderline incel but I have no idea if what I suspected was true.

The married guys tended to be longer term married with children in K-12. Their marriages seemed stale whenever I overheard them talking about their personal lives. This is all typical for white collar males.

The majority of my female co-workers have been married women with children under 18. There have been some single mom co-workers. There were some childless, unmarried female co-workers. Most of them were in LTRs that started before I started that job.

I have done a good job over the years of keeping my professional and personal lives separate.

A 52 year old man I suspect is a borderline incel got fired recently (I don't know exactly why). Overall, my coworkers (both male and female) are largely either married or at least have a boyfriend/girlfriend.

 

[SW15]

Overall, my coworkers (both male and female) are largely either married or at least have a boyfriend/girlfriend.

In many jobs, most people's co-workers can be described this way.

One of the jobs where this would be different would be at a tech company. There would be a lot of incels at a tech company. If a company has more STEM type workers, there are going to be more incels or borderline incels.

 

[GoodMan32]

In many jobs, most people's co-workers can be described this way.

One of the jobs where this would be different would be at a tech company. There would be a lot of incels at a tech company. If a company has more STEM type workers, there are going to be more incels or borderline incels.

A woman, no matter how mediocre, can easily get a man. So let's only examine the men at my office.

Even among the men, there are mediocre ones with either a girlfriend or wife (and I've seen a picture of a female coworker's husband...he's incredibly ugly)

I mentioned the 52 year old I suspect is a borderline incel (the one who recently got fired). Then, come to think of it, there's a younger guy in another department I suspect might be an all out incel. These 2 examples still don't change the overwhelming trend in my office (of men having a girlfriend or wife). Based on looks alone, it's shocking that I don't have a woman, while there are men in my office with worse looks than me who have either a girlfriend or wife.

 

[SW15]

Even among the men, there are mediocre ones with either a girlfriend or wife (and I've seen a picture of a female coworker's husband...he's incredibly ugly)

I've seen mediocre looking guys with girlfriends/wives (typically wives) at various workplaces over the years. Most of them are Boomers and Gen X'ers who are beta bucks guys. Beta males who earn a good income and got their wife 20+ years ago. A lot of times, the wife isn't impressive looking either. The relationship is stale too because they tend to have school aged kids.

 

[Manure Spherian]

Based on looks alone, it's shocking that I don't have a woman, while there are men in my office with worse looks than me who have either a girlfriend or wife.

These men likely:
1. Had social circles of males and females from young ages.
2. Aren’t neurotic.
3. Might have met their women from online dating.
4. Met their women at work.

There is much resentment in seduction forums and the Manosphere of ordinary dudes with women.

 

[GoodMan32]

I've seen mediocre looking guys with girlfriends/wives (typically wives) at various workplaces over the years. Most of them are Boomers and Gen X'ers who are beta bucks guys. Beta males who earn a good income and got their wife 20+ years ago. A lot of times, the wife isn't impressive looking either. The relationship is stale too because they tend to have school aged kids.

Yeah, it's one thing if the men are Boomers or Gen Xers (as getting a woman was easier in their day)

That being said, there are several men in my workplace born in the 80s and 90s whose looks are nothing special, yet they have a girlfriend or wife.

Same story when I'm out in public. I see plenty of young men whose looks are nothing special, yet they have a woman.

It's been said before on this forum that a woman's standards have become insanely high, a woman will "next" a man as soon as a more exciting option comes along, broads with average looks would rather share a Chad (even if it means never getting commitment from Chad) than have a committed relationship with an Average Joe, etc.

For that matter, the internet in general is full of men complaining about how hard it is to get a woman.

The disconnect between what I read online (as well as my own personal experience) vs what I see at work/in public shocks me.

 

[GoodMan32]

These men likely:
1. Had social circles of males and females from young ages.
2. Aren’t neurotic.
3. Might have met their women from online dating.
4. Met their women at work.

There is much resentment in seduction forums and the Manosphere of ordinary dudes with women.

If broads on swipe apps are as picky as this forum makes it sound, it's unlikely these mediocre men met their girlfriends/wives through online dating.

Options 1 and 2 are quite likely I suppose.

Meeting a woman at work is a possibility. In fact, a guy with mediocre looks at my workplace dated a hottie we work with at one point. Overall though, with all the considerations to take into account when sh1tting where you eat (in other words, dating a coworker), I don't think the female population in general would go to the hassle of dating a mediocre male coworker.

 

[SW15]

These men likely:
1. Had social circles of males and females from young ages.
2. Aren’t neurotic.
3. Might have met their women from online dating.
4. Met their women at work.

These are good points and I want to break them down one by one.

Had social circles of males and females from young ages

This is a common way for ordinary looking men with blue pill ideologies (commonly called beta males) to get sexual partners. These mid tier betas often get LTRs from this. Being a socially well connected beta male is something that tends to help them.

The most common way that I have seen an ordinary beta male become a socially well connected beta male is by a man being geographically fixed. In this case, he stays in the same area from K-12 grades and not be a social outcast during that time. He needs to be somewhat likable. He doesn't need to be most popular but he can't be a loser. He then stays in that same region as where he was K-12 as an adult and he could possibly go to a regional college within 3-4 hours of home before settling back in his hometown. Doing this will help get the right social circle introductions to get girlfriends. This guy won't put up 'Chad' tier numbers on seductions, but he can get longer term girlfriends doing this.

Another way that I have seen this work is at college. A guy who might not be at a college near his hometown gets very active in campus extracurriculars and gets a girlfriend that way. Or he meets a female in one of his academic classes. The guy holds onto his college girlfriend well into his 20s and even into his 30s. This often results in a marriage and babies.

Aren’t neurotic

That is always going to help. A neurotypical with mild or no mental illness is better positioned to succeed.

Might have met their women from online dating

This can still happen but it's a more difficult path for the ordinary looks tier beta male. Women are actively seeking the top tier men online. Nevertheless, there are middle tier men getting girlfriends or even wives off of tech-based dating methods. I've seen examples of betas dumpster diving to get LTRs off of online dating apps. It's also possible a childless aging beta takes on an aging single mom. Sometimes, there isn't something obvious.

For LTRs, it's more likely to see something like an 8+ looks tier man settling into something with an 8+ looks tier woman. That can happen online if the better looking man isn't as motivated to put up big notch count numbers online with carousel riding women online. As said many times on here, the best looking men online are often putting up big notch count numbers with a variety of women. Some of the women are in their looks tier, but some are slightly below. An 8.5+ looks man often uses swipe apps to have endless sex with women in the 5.5-low 7s range.

Met their women at work

This can still happen but has gotten less common in white collar spaces since the 1990s with stronger HR enforcement of sexual harrassment policies. "Don't crap where you eat" has gotten to be a more common saying in relation to this. Prior to the 1990s/early 2000s, white collar workplaces were often a good place to meet a girlfriend or even wife.

In more recent years, the only times I've heard of white collar pairings were in larger organizations when the man and woman rarely ever interacted from their day-to-day work duties. They might have met at the corporate holiday party or through their workplace acquaintances that they worked with more day-to-day (few degrees of separation social connections). One of the couples that is part of the primary social circle that this thread started around formed exactly as I just described in a white collar workplace.

Blue collar workplaces have been mostly men and usually don't result in couple formations. HR and #MeToo haven't changed this space too much.

Workplace pairings are still most relevant in service sector jobs. Retail store workers often date each other. Bartenders/waiters/waitresses commonly date. Bouncers date strippers and female bartenders. Some of these pairings aren't long lasting. Some of the reasons why service sector pairings can still work is because these people tend to change jobs more frequently than white collar workers and these jobs tend to have less demanding interview processes. It's more difficult to replace a white collar job if things go bad in a romantic interaction than some service sector job.

 

[Manure Spherian]

These are good points and I want to break them down one by one.

Had social circles of males and females from young ages

This is a common way for ordinary looking men with blue pill ideologies (commonly called beta males) to get sexual partners. These mid tier betas often get LTRs from this. Being a socially well connected beta male is something that tends to help them.

The most common way that I have seen an ordinary beta male become a socially well connected beta male is by a man being geographically fixed. In this case, he stays in the same area from K-12 grades and not be a social outcast during that time. He needs to be somewhat likable. He doesn't need to be most popular but he can't be a loser. He then stays in that same region as where he was K-12 as an adult and he could possibly go to a regional college within 3-4 hours of home before settling back in his hometown. Doing this will help get the right social circle introductions to get girlfriends. This guy won't put up 'Chad' tier numbers on seductions, but he can get longer term girlfriends doing this.

Another way that I have seen this work is at college. A guy who might not be at a college near his hometown gets very active in campus extracurriculars and gets a girlfriend that way. Or he meets a female in one of his academic classes. The guy holds onto his college girlfriend well into his 20s and even into his 30s. This often results in a marriage and babies.

Aren’t neurotic

That is always going to help. A neurotypical with mild or no mental illness is better positioned to succeed.

Might have met their women from online dating

This can still happen but it's a more difficult path for the ordinary looks tier beta male. Women are actively seeking the top tier men online. Nevertheless, there are middle tier men getting girlfriends or even wives off of tech-based dating methods. I've seen examples of betas dumpster diving to get LTRs off of online dating apps. It's also possible a childless aging beta takes on an aging single mom. Sometimes, there isn't something obvious.

For LTRs, it's more likely to see something like an 8+ looks tier man settling into something with an 8+ looks tier woman. That can happen online if the better looking man isn't as motivated to put up big notch count numbers online with carousel riding women online. As said many times on here, the best looking men online are often putting up big notch count numbers with a variety of women. Some of the women are in their looks tier, but some are slightly below. An 8.5+ looks man often uses swipe apps to have endless sex with women in the 5.5-low 7s range.

Met their women at work

This can still happen but has gotten less common in white collar spaces since the 1990s with stronger HR enforcement of sexual harrassment policies. "Don't crap where you eat" has gotten to be a more common saying in relation to this. Prior to the 1990s/early 2000s, white collar workplaces were often a good place to meet a girlfriend or even wife.

In more recent years, the only times I've heard of white collar pairings were in larger organizations when the man and woman rarely ever interacted from their day-to-day work duties. They might have met at the corporate holiday party or through their workplace acquaintances that they worked with more day-to-day (few degrees of separation social connections). One of the couples that is part of the primary social circle that this thread started around formed exactly as I just described in a white collar workplace.

Blue collar workplaces have been mostly men and usually don't result in couple formations. HR and #MeToo haven't changed this space too much.

Workplace pairings are still most relevant in service sector jobs. Retail store workers often date each other. Bartenders/waiters/waitresses commonly date. Bouncers date strippers and female bartenders. Some of these pairings aren't long lasting. Some of the reasons why service sector pairings can still work is because these people tend to change jobs more frequently than white collar workers and these jobs tend to have less demanding interview processes. It's more difficult to replace a white collar job if things go bad in a romantic interaction than some service sector job.

Thanks for the informative response.

Do you have an idea about why womanless men resent ordinary/average men with women?

I’m an an average man with a wife and kids and I’ve had girlfriends? Do I deserve resentment? Did I do something wrong? Am I harming womanless men?

 

[SW15]

Do you have an idea about why womanless men resent ordinary/average men with women?

The men are pissed off about not getting laid.

I don't resent. I also have a lifetime notch count above most men's lifetime count. I've also had dry spells at times too.

Do I deserve resentment? Did I do something wrong? Am I harming womanless men?

No to all.

 

[Manure Spherian]

The guy holds onto his college girlfriend well into his 20s and even into his 30s. This often results in a marriage and babies.

I have observed these couples have the best successes at living happily ever after.

 

[SW15]

I have observed these couples have the best successes at living happily ever after.

I have a difficult time believing in that idea of "happily ever after" given my beliefs that relationships typically have a shelf life of goodness. I think my shelf life idea is the thing that I'm most known for on SoSuave in my 13,000+ posts.

With that said, I think your point has merit. I think a relationship has a better chance of being higher quality for a longer period of time if the couple meets earlier in life and grows their lives together from an earlier age. If a couple meets when both are after age 30, it's more awkward to merge lives in longer term relationships. This is even true when 30 and 40 somethings are forming LTRs and both are childless. Children from past relationships often complicate LTRs that form in one's 30s and 40s.

 

[Manure Spherian]

iven my beliefs that relationships typically have a shelf life of goodness.

If people live by this it’s a great way to f— up children and family ties.

 

[SW15]

If people live by this it’s a great way to f— up children and family ties.

Men who believe in a shelf life idea will often do Options 2, 3, and 6 from the article below. Option 2 (serial monogamous marriage) is a great way to mess up children and family ties. That's going into a marriage accepting the idea that the marriage will fail at some point. In my life, I've alternated between Option 3 (Be a player forever) and Path 6 (Be a serial monogamist forever). Option 6 doesn't involve marriage.

The Only 9 Options for Men as They Age - Alpha Male 2.0

-By Caleb Jones As I’ve discussed before, most men, even Alpha Males, have no intention on being players for the rest of their lives. At some point, even the horniest players will want to “settle down” in some form or fashion. Today I’m going to...

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Options 7-9 are variants of non-monogamist relationship models that I do not know that well.

Most men end up in Option 1 (traditional monogamous marriage). The men in my primary social circle over time discussed in this thread are Option 1 men. Option 1 has a poor track record and is also a great way to mess up children and family ties. Option 1 now fails more than it succeeds.

In Option 6, if a man doesn't have kids, he's not messing up children and family ties. There are downsides to living an Option 6 lifestyle and this thread has covered some of my experiences as more of an Option 6 guy. Option 3 will also mess up children and family ties. An Option 3 guy might disappear from his child's life and have no part in raising a child.

 

[GoodMan32]

On the general topic of social circles:

A strong social circle can totally help a guy get broads in high school and college. Even after college, I'd estimate a decent social circle can help a lot until the age of 28 or so.

What changes around age 28? By that age, there are fewer and fewer singles. Then by the time you're my age (33), no matter how strong your social circle is, chances are the vast majority of broads in your social circle either have husbands or serious boyfriends.

A strong social circle in your younger years means you're less likely to end up in my position (33 year old borderline incel), I get that. All I'm saying is if a 33 year old were to find himself single and/or celibate, I have my doubts of how much a strong social circle would help.

 

[GoodMan32]

These are good points and I want to break them down one by one.

Had social circles of males and females from young ages

This is a common way for ordinary looking men with blue pill ideologies (commonly called beta males) to get sexual partners. These mid tier betas often get LTRs from this. Being a socially well connected beta male is something that tends to help them.

The most common way that I have seen an ordinary beta male become a socially well connected beta male is by a man being geographically fixed. In this case, he stays in the same area from K-12 grades and not be a social outcast during that time. He needs to be somewhat likable. He doesn't need to be most popular but he can't be a loser. He then stays in that same region as where he was K-12 as an adult and he could possibly go to a regional college within 3-4 hours of home before settling back in his hometown. Doing this will help get the right social circle introductions to get girlfriends. This guy won't put up 'Chad' tier numbers on seductions, but he can get longer term girlfriends doing this.

Another way that I have seen this work is at college. A guy who might not be at a college near his hometown gets very active in campus extracurriculars and gets a girlfriend that way. Or he meets a female in one of his academic classes. The guy holds onto his college girlfriend well into his 20s and even into his 30s. This often results in a marriage and babies.

Aren’t neurotic

That is always going to help. A neurotypical with mild or no mental illness is better positioned to succeed.

Might have met their women from online dating

This can still happen but it's a more difficult path for the ordinary looks tier beta male. Women are actively seeking the top tier men online. Nevertheless, there are middle tier men getting girlfriends or even wives off of tech-based dating methods. I've seen examples of betas dumpster diving to get LTRs off of online dating apps. It's also possible a childless aging beta takes on an aging single mom. Sometimes, there isn't something obvious.

For LTRs, it's more likely to see something like an 8+ looks tier man settling into something with an 8+ looks tier woman. That can happen online if the better looking man isn't as motivated to put up big notch count numbers online with carousel riding women online. As said many times on here, the best looking men online are often putting up big notch count numbers with a variety of women. Some of the women are in their looks tier, but some are slightly below. An 8.5+ looks man often uses swipe apps to have endless sex with women in the 5.5-low 7s range.

Met their women at work

This can still happen but has gotten less common in white collar spaces since the 1990s with stronger HR enforcement of sexual harrassment policies. "Don't crap where you eat" has gotten to be a more common saying in relation to this. Prior to the 1990s/early 2000s, white collar workplaces were often a good place to meet a girlfriend or even wife.

In more recent years, the only times I've heard of white collar pairings were in larger organizations when the man and woman rarely ever interacted from their day-to-day work duties. They might have met at the corporate holiday party or through their workplace acquaintances that they worked with more day-to-day (few degrees of separation social connections). One of the couples that is part of the primary social circle that this thread started around formed exactly as I just described in a white collar workplace.

Blue collar workplaces have been mostly men and usually don't result in couple formations. HR and #MeToo haven't changed this space too much.

Workplace pairings are still most relevant in service sector jobs. Retail store workers often date each other. Bartenders/waiters/waitresses commonly date. Bouncers date strippers and female bartenders. Some of these pairings aren't long lasting. Some of the reasons why service sector pairings can still work is because these people tend to change jobs more frequently than white collar workers and these jobs tend to have less demanding interview processes. It's more difficult to replace a white collar job if things go bad in a romantic interaction than some service sector job.

Good point about a guy having a relatively easy time if he stays in the same geographical area (as long as he isn't a total outcast). I had a high school classmate who went to the same exact schools as me for all of K-12. He then went to a college pretty close to our high school.

He was fat, below average in looks, and was socially awkward.

On the surface, he sounds even worse than me (We're both socially awkward. And he had some disadvantages I didn't have, like his fatness and his below average looks)

Yet here's what set him apart (in a good way): Despite his social awkwardness, he wasn't quite an autist.

He had 2 girlfriends in high school. He then did relatively well in college, as well as for the first few years after college (then I lost track of him)

Unreal that being a high-functioning autist with a skinny build and average to above-average looks is somehow more of an impediment than being an ugly fattie with garden variety social awkwardness.

 

[SW15]

On the general topic of social circles:

A strong social circle can totally help a guy get broads in high school and college. Even after college, I'd estimate a decent social circle can help a lot until the age of 28 or so.

What changes around age 28? By that age, there are fewer and fewer singles. Then by the time you're my age (33), no matter how strong your social circle is, chances are the vast majority of broads in your social circle either have husbands or serious boyfriends.

A strong social circle in your younger years means you're less likely to end up in my position (33 year old borderline incel), I get that. All I'm saying is if a 33 year old were to find himself single and/or celibate, I have my doubts of how much a strong social circle would help.

I am aware of cases of guys 35+ getting social circle introductions. I know of a guy in his late 30s who received a social circle introduction in the immediate aftermath of a divorce and that led to his 2nd marriage. It's difficult for me to determine if this is an outlier type case. Your idea could have merit. I wish it could be quantified.

In my local social circle, the majority of women in the social circle were paired off by late 20s/early 30s, so your hypothesis would hold water in my local social circle. While the main topic of this thread is my primary local social circle, I am well aware that this social circle is not representative of social circles in general.

I have received few social circle introductions over the last 25 years. I've achieved a well above average notch count on the strength of approaching strangers. I've invested time in learning seduction. I also dabbled in dating websites and dating apps. This has been a brutally tough path that I do not recommend. I have repeatedly said that having a social circle helps most men get girlfriends with less grief and frustration than either app swiping or approaching strangers.

There is a reason why the Wheat Waffles flowchart said that my best play is daygame seducer.

 

[GoodMan32]

I am aware of cases of guys 35+ getting social circle introductions. I know of a guy in his late 30s who received a social circle introduction in the immediate aftermath of a divorce and that led to his 2nd marriage. It's difficult for me to determine if this is an outlier type case. Your idea could have merit. I wish it could be quantified.

In my local social circle, the majority of women in the social circle were paired off by late 20s/early 30s, so your hypothesis would hold water in my local social circle. While the main topic of this thread is my primary local social circle, I am well aware that this social circle is not representative of social circles in general.

I have received few social circle introductions over the last 25 years. I've achieved a well above average notch count on the strength of approaching strangers. I've invested time in learning seduction. I also dabbled in dating websites and dating apps. This has been a brutally tough path that I do not recommend. I have repeatedly said that having a social circle helps most men get girlfriends with less grief and frustration than either app swiping or approaching strangers.

There is a reason why the Wheat Waffles flowchart said that my best play is daygame seducer.

Interesting how even I (an autist) had a decent amount of success from tech methods, yet you (from the sounds of it) struggled a lot through tech methods.

Don't get me wrong, I also had a ton of failure through tech methods. But I say I had a decent amount of success because I did much better through tech methods in college than I did through trying to find a broad organically in person.

 

[SW15]

Interesting how even I (an autist) had a decent amount of success from tech methods, yet you (from the sounds of it) struggled a lot through tech methods.

Don't get me wrong, I also had a ton of failure through tech methods.

You have gotten a decent quantity of partners through tech methods, but you had to dumpster dive to do it in many cases AND you also haven't done well retaining the partners you've gotten. It's debatable if that is success.

Dumpster diving via tech methods is a common tactic men use to get pussie.

Dumpster diving is a bad tactic for a lot of reasons. I do not dumpster dive for pussie.

I say I had a decent amount of success because I did much better through tech methods in college than I did through trying to find a broad organically in person.

This forum has had 2 good college sex threads. Both of these college sex threads happened long after you graduated from college.

Observations about college sex life from someone that went to a party school.

I thought I'd share this as someone who went to a party school and was in a fraternity there as well. Not wanting to give too much about myself but I went to UGA and graduated a few years ago. While Athens has its hot girls, I do feel like the quality got worse every year due to the admission...

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The college hype is unreal, true players get how overrated it is.

Looking back at it, I am amazed at how big the hype around college truly was. Maybe my boy @CornbreadFed and @SW15 could speak on this but I speak with so many guys who seem to have peaked in college and don't realize how beautiful life can get after it. FWIW, I was in a fraternity in college, a...

www.sosuave.net

College is a phase of life when a tech method for dating should not be necessary. The typical male has far more proximity to women on a college campus in real life than he would have at any point in his life in the working world. Men usually resort to tech methods when they are in the working phase of their lives. Men who work jobs typically need to go out of their ways to meet women organically in real life. On a college campus, a male is surrounded by females. He has options with females in classes, options with females randomly on campus, options with females at off campus parties, options with females as a result of participating in Greek Life (if he chooses that), and options with in various campus extracurricular clubs.

If a man is using tech methods while he's on a college campus, that's a very poor sign. Even in the 2010s-2020s with more dependency on tech, it's still not needed on a college campus.

Tech methods did exist when I was in college from 2001-2005. There were online dating websites that existed in those days. Online dating websites go all the way back to the early to mid 1990s as a concept. Facebook and MySpace had launched by my senior year.

 

[GoodMan32]

You have gotten a decent quantity of partners through tech methods, but you had to dumpster dive to do it in many cases AND you also haven't done well retaining the partners you've gotten. It's debatable if that is success.

Dumpster diving via tech methods is a common tactic men use to get pussie.

Dumpster diving is a bad tactic for a lot of reasons. I do not dumpster dive for pussie.



This forum has had 2 good college sex threads. Both of these college sex threads happened long after you graduated from college.

Observations about college sex life from someone that went to a party school.

I thought I'd share this as someone who went to a party school and was in a fraternity there as well. Not wanting to give too much about myself but I went to UGA and graduated a few years ago. While Athens has its hot girls, I do feel like the quality got worse every year due to the admission...

www.sosuave.net

The college hype is unreal, true players get how overrated it is.

Looking back at it, I am amazed at how big the hype around college truly was. Maybe my boy @CornbreadFed and @SW15 could speak on this but I speak with so many guys who seem to have peaked in college and don't realize how beautiful life can get after it. FWIW, I was in a fraternity in college, a...

www.sosuave.net

College is a phase of life when a tech method for dating should not be necessary. The typical male has far more proximity to women on a college campus in real life than he would have at any point in his life in the working world. Men usually resort to tech methods when they are in the working phase of their lives. Men who work jobs typically need to go out of their ways to meet women organically in real life. On a college campus, a male is surrounded by females. He has options with females in classes, options with females randomly on campus, options with females at off campus parties, options with females as a result of participating in Greek Life (if he chooses that), and options with in various campus extracurricular clubs.

If a man is using tech methods while he's on a college campus, that's a very poor sign. Even in the 2010s-2020s with more dependency on tech, it's still not needed on a college campus.

Tech methods did exist when I was in college from 2001-2005. There were online dating websites that existed in those days. Online dating websites go all the way back to the early to mid 1990s as a concept. Facebook and MySpace had launched by my senior year.

Right, I had to dumpster dive to some degree. Then again, I'm an autist. I don't think you'd have to dumpster dive on tech methods.

I totally agree a guy shouldn't have to resort to tech methods in college. You're 100% correct when you say we're around a much higher concentration of broads in college than at any point post-college.

It's pretty alarming I had to rely on tech methods in college.