Do men even care anymore?

[CornbreadFed]

Noticing less traffic from newcomers and male dating advice content in general. It seems to have fell after Andrew Tate was taken down. In addition, I notice higher female ratios out in public now as opposed to sausage fests.

 

[SW15]

In addition, I notice higher female ratios out in public now as opposed to sausage fests.

Where are you seeing higher female ratios? Sausage fests have been common.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Where are you seeing higher female ratios? Sausage fests have been common.

everywhere haha, even online gaming has a lot of women.

 

[SW15]

everywhere haha, even online gaming has a lot of women.

I'm not going out to bars as much lately due to a lack of wingmen. Bars have been more sausage fests over time.

Good ratios don't mean much. Most fitness classes have great ratios but don't result in a lot of dates.

 

[CornbreadFed]

I'm not going out to bars as much lately due to a lack of wingmen. Bars have been more sausage fests over time.

Good ratios don't mean much. Most fitness classes have great ratios but don't result in a lot of dates.

maybe you are a good match to answer the topic lol.

 

[plumber]

other factor is that over time our view of things changes even when the things are the same.

 

[SW15]

maybe you are a good match to answer the topic lol.

I think men still care about meeting women and getting laid.

 

[corrector]

That is because Chad/Tyrones keep getting all the action while everyone else is ignored, or get into BS legal trouble. There is also allot of censorship on this board as well, such as banning any open discussion of prostitutes or politics/religion, all of which would at least be a man's outlet to vent and write about. People will eventually move on, and as they feel discouraged, with woman's insane standards, wracking up high body counts, just going after Chads/Tyrones, etc...... You don't have any happy middle that people can connect with much on here either. It's either Chads/Tyrones who have an easy time with women, or nearcel/incels. Even I look at some threads and just shrug my shoulders and it's like "whatever".

 

[corrector]

I think men still care about meeting women and getting laid.

Yes and everyone wants to be a millionaire as well. Doesn't mean everyone is rich.

 

[plumber]

banning any open discussion of prostitutes or politics/religion,

yea, both of these topics are huge in the world of this. maybe some legal issues. if its just bias then it leave a huge hole in the solutions.

 

[zekko]

I notice higher female ratios out in public now as opposed to sausage fests.

Maybe the guys are staying in their basements.

 

[Travel memoir21]

If you’re a nerd or a geek and want to have fun and meet interesting women your type, why don’t you dress up and go to one of those Comic Con conventions near your area.


Meet an evil celebrity and and a woman your type all in one outing for an interesting evening.

 

[Solomon]

Noticing less traffic from newcomers and male dating advice content in general. It seems to have fell after Andrew Tate was taken down. In addition, I notice higher female ratios out in public now as opposed to sausage fests.

I've noticed in the last 10 years men have become soft and do not want to put in the work. While so many men complain about how women and dating suck in 2024 (which I agree with for the most part) it's never been easier to have casual relationships or hooks then in 2024. The reality is a lot of men are entitled like the women they complain about.

The bar is really low in some places for men that all you need is a job, your own place and not be fat and you will have your pick (Iowa, Northern Michigan, Nebraska etc)

 

[parabellum]

I've noticed in the last 10 years men have become soft and do not want to put in the work. While so many men complain about how women and dating suck in 2024 (which I agree with for the most part) it's never been easier to have casual relationships or hooks then in 2024. The reality is a lot of men are entitled like the women they complain about.

The bar is really low in some places for men that all you need is a job, your own place and not be fat and you will have your pick (Iowa, Northern Michigan, Nebraska etc)

the second part of your response almost read like a man with a job, own place, not fat is entitled to have their pick in those places… which may be part of a self perpetuating cycle… it might be a misinterpretation on my part…

The crude reality I see out there is that unless you come from money, you’ll have to grind for money, put in the effort to build a “presence” that can actually attract a woman (notice I’m saying just one woman for starters), and even then nothing is granted. Human nature is futile and transient as individuals, but then it seems a constant that the 0.0001% will keep playing the masses for profit. And I mean it in all aspects of life.

and while this might seem off topic, I believe it’s relevant to the fact that this generation over-focus on how hard we have it, instead of focusing on doing and either failing or succeeding, and just keep grinding to the bitter end, enjoying the little things.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Noticing less traffic from newcomers and male dating advice content in general. It seems to have fell after Andrew Tate was taken down. In addition, I notice higher female ratios out in public now as opposed to sausage fests.

Statistics have been repeated alleging that men aren't dating as much these days. Anecdotally, I have observed that many guys are spending the majority of their free time on activities like video games, binge watching, and griping over the many ways Disney ruined Star Wars on social media

Sucks for them, but leaves more potential acquisitions for the rest of us on the table

 

[characternote]

Statistics have been repeated alleging that men aren't dating as much these days.

Yeah, i've seen lots of studies and articles and stuff over the last 4-5 years. Stuff that says 'young people are having less sex than ever before!' etc which is kind of big. Most guys, just aren't getting laid anymore. And most of those who do get laid aren't doing so with the sort of girls they truly want!

It's only very recently that i've noticed more of an apathy about it, though. Frustration has been replaced with a kind of acceptance. I have a fairly large social circle and can see lots of it first hand. Guys haven't gotten CLOSE to getting laid for YEARS. Normal guys with decent jobs etc. They go to the gym too. They could get laid (with very average looking girls) if they put some effort in (way way more approaches and just being more social), but they know that they aren't good looking enough (or famous lol) to get the young smokeshows they desire and they seem to be content with other avenues of pleasure. Travelling, sports, videogames, gym etc.

Similar with lots of the younger guys I work with. I talk to them about this stuff. I think the blackpill is just so mainstream nowadays and it's just impossible to argue against it. (them guys also have good looking friends who clean up with girls and they can't ignore how it all works, just like the generation before them! maybe the smartphone stopped girls having to settle at all lol. Now the hot ones can hit up an nfl player on insta! ). But yeah, the interesting thing in recent years is that some of that 'frustration' i'd previously seen seems to have waned. They seem to be content enough with gym and videogames etc, and i'm assuming online p0rn etc. Leaving the hot girls to celebs and just guys who hit the genetic lottery lol.

 

[Bingo-Player]

Women have had a very very nice run in the dating market for the last decade and I think its fair to say most have very taken it for granted and in some cases abused the power they've had especially in online avenues

But lot of modern men are lazy / timid and want a quick fix ......the first and easiest route to getting a woman / sex is downloading a dating app

Apart from it isnt anymore and hasn't been for a while ....but on paper still " the easiest route" so you've got men who will continue to try and use the apps whilst going around in circles and complaining about how hard it is

this will inevitably lead too apathy and a lot of black pill ideology which we've seen develop over the last few years
------------------

Back in reality though I kind of like it , the competition isn't that strong and on a night out women will 9/10 fvck the guy that can hold conversation the longest and executes the kill

I picked a chick up in a concert Friday night , she stuck to me like glue ....... 3 of my mates fvcked it up with her friend (who was also looking for get laid ) all of them just being too passive

at 3am I tell my chick we are going home ,

A bit of last min resistance but sure enough we are on the way back to my place

my mates stay out with her mate until 7am and still nobody could close

Guys are fvcking useless these days

 

[Ricky]

I talk to women and its like i am a time traveler from a time when men could talk to women. Its amazing the type of women that light up and smile because they are actually having a normal conversation now

 

[Barrister]

Most men could really use this place to understand female nature. Millennials are bad enough but Gen Z and beyond are completely brainwashed and clueless when it comes to female nature. The women of these generations are equally clueless and will publicly talk about “toxic masculinity” while at the same time being highly attracted to a man who takes the lead and doesn’t put up with her nonsense.

If you take reasonably good care of yourself, have a decent job, and have halfway decent social grace around women you can make a killing in this dating market due to lack of a lot of real competition.

 

[SW15]

The bar is really low in some places for men that all you need is a job, your own place and not be fat and you will have your pick (Iowa, Northern Michigan, Nebraska etc)

I've been living in a place with a very high bar (Dallas, Texas) for a while. The mating environment in Dallas is very competitive. A job, your own place, and not being fat is good in Dallas but doesn't mean much for dating success. In Dallas, a man is likely to need those things and much more.

In Dallas, men who are younger and very good looking (85th-90th percentile +) might be able to get away with not having a job and get sex. It would tend to be shorter term sex but at least they'll get something. It also depends on the target market too. I've spent a lot of time in Dallas around bougie White women. I define a bougie White woman as a White woman with a bachelor's degree or higher working some working some sort of typically white collar job. Things are likely to vary somewhat in Dallas with women who aren't bougie White women.

Most men could really use this place to understand female nature. Millennials are bad enough but Gen Z and beyond are completely brainwashed and clueless when it comes to female nature.

I agree with this. The mating environments in the Millennial and Generation Z have been challenging. As an earlier Millennial, I have dated mainly Millennials over time but in recent years I have started to have more interactions with Gen Z.

The women of these generations are equally clueless and will publicly talk about “toxic masculinity” while at the same time being highly attracted to a man who takes the lead and doesn’t put up with her nonsense.

This is all true. I've been fortunate that I've been more red pill. Becoming red pill was an extended process for me as I was raised as a blue pill ideology nice guy. It took some time to de-program from my blue pill nice guy roots.

When I was less red pill, I tended to put up with more nonsense.

When I was closer to my blue pill roots, I was at least leading most interactions. My frame was a bit weaker as a leader but I understood that I would have to approach and start interactions.

i've seen lots of studies and articles and stuff over the last 4-5 years. Stuff that says 'young people are having less sex than ever before!' etc which is kind of big. Most guys, just aren't getting laid anymore. And most of those who do get laid aren't doing so with the sort of girls they truly want!

I've seen some of those research studies as well. There's plenty of data out there. Generation Z is having less sex, especially Generation Z males. However, even some Generation Z females have been having less sex as well.

It's only very recently that i've noticed more of an apathy about it, though. Frustration has been replaced with a kind of acceptance. I have a fairly large social circle and can see lots of it first hand. Guys haven't gotten CLOSE to getting laid for YEARS. Normal guys with decent jobs etc. They go to the gym too. They could get laid (with very average looking girls) if they put some effort in (way way more approaches and just being more social), but they know that they aren't good looking enough (or famous lol) to get the young smokeshows they desire and they seem to be content with other avenues of pleasure. Travelling, sports, videogames, gym etc.

Similar with lots of the younger guys I work with. I talk to them about this stuff. I think the blackpill is just so mainstream nowadays and it's just impossible to argue against it. (them guys also have good looking friends who clean up with girls and they can't ignore how it all works, just like the generation before them! maybe the smartphone stopped girls having to settle at all lol. Now the hot ones can hit up an nfl player on insta! ). But yeah, the interesting thing in recent years is that some of that 'frustration' i'd previously seen seems to have waned. They seem to be content enough with gym and videogames etc, and i'm assuming online p0rn etc. Leaving the hot girls to celebs and just guys who hit the genetic lottery lol.

I think there are cases where frustration has become acceptance. I also think that a lot of guys (even Gen Z guys) are still guys who are looking to get laid.