2nd Worst Day

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Garnering opinions. Long read, apologies in advance

Work restructure. New boss. His track record and reputation in the business is:

- Credit stealing/dark arts to benefit him personally.
- I have professional disagreements about how to move forward.
- Very much me-first

this guy is now my boss, but also will be doing work too so the assumption is that this power will be almost certainly abused to benefit him by taking my best work.

the big boss loves him. His previous team had a staff retention issue and it’s common knowledge it’s because of the above. However the boss has promoted him. The people leaving were good people too.

this has demoralised me as I don’t think complaining about the appointment will help.

Gameplan from here:

- Try to make this guy an ally in the short term. Do what I can to make him look good, but challenge any action which is materially disadvantaging me, in writing but in a constructive way.

- Work on employability. I’m overweight; use this a springboard and motivation to drop weight and thereby make myself more employable.

- With my last meeting with my boss, very gently raise concerns about how potential will be decided. It’s possible he might be aware of the issues and will keep a tight watch and not allow the freedom which would endanger me.

- I have some exams to do to move onwards. Deprioritise work, and prioritise that which helps me become more employable. This has the added benefit of a little productivity drop on appointment and also benefits me.

I have to wait to bonus day to do anything otherwise I lose a lot of money.

sadly I might have to take a pay cut to leave. However, my main feeling is that in the long run an unethical manager isn’t worth the hastle.

my local team know all these issues and may report back on the QT. Especially if I leave I don’t need to say anything, they will know why.

other colleague have said wait and see, now he’s your direct boss he may be using the dark arts in your favour as now he is tasked with making you successful. This I feel is BS as his last team, he made sure he had 5X the business of anyone in his team by abusing his position.

other issue is he ticks a few DEI boxes so you can’t touch him and the business like his visibility .

as far as I see it, money isn’t everything and it’s better to take a pay cut (and still be well paid) rather than get entangled with a boss like this.

on a personal level we get on well, it’s just he is ruthlessly self serving in every respect.
 

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If you get along well superficially as you say, pretend you're his flying monkey but (as diplomatically as you can) pick your battles when appropriate. You should at least be able to make it to bonus day.

Just keep in mind he's probably better at rear-ending than you.
 

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Give him the Philadelphia treatment.
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I thought you just got a promotion. Isn't it a little early to make judgements about your new boss?
 

At this point you probably have a woman (or multiple women) chasing you around, calling you all the time, wanting to be with you. So let's talk about how to KEEP a woman interested in you once you have her. This is BIG! There is nothing worse than getting dumped by a woman that you really, really like.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Work re-structures stink. You are fortunate that you're still employed. A lot of times, when workplaces are re-structured, there are mass layoffs.

In the USA, the white collar working space has seen a lot of layoffs in 2023-2024.

You need to stay on your new boss' good side in the short term, but you're going to need to change jobs in the next 3-12 months in a job market that's below average.
 

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This is the second time you post about having some "issue" with a person from your work, and the second time you make yourself as the victim. Have you thought maybe you're the problem?
 

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This is the second time you post about having some "issue" with a person from your work, and the second time you make yourself as the victim. Have you thought maybe you're the problem?
You sound like you should pursue a career in rape-victim counselling.

Two times is not a pattern.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Aren’t you in sales?
yes. You might think “well, sell more” but it’s allocation of accounts which is vital. If your boss just takes the good ones and leaves you the challenging ones, it makes you look bad.

You can very much build a pretty strong career in some companies off of getting yourself in the right place rather than actually being good at the job.
 

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This is the second time you post about having some "issue" with a person from your work, and the second time you make yourself as the victim. Have you thought maybe you're the problem?
when was the other?


This place is useful to let off steam where I know everyone isn’t woke or a bunch of kids on Reddit, so that’s why you’re seeing my problems. I’m not posting about all the relationships which work well. I could update about the 30+ individuals I am working successfully with but that’s not of much interest.

there’s a bias, I don’t need help/advice with things which are being dealt with successfully.
 
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turkey gene regrets his neck tattoo when the farmer comes with the ax..jpeg
 

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when was the other?


This place is useful to let off steam where I know everyone isn’t woke or a bunch of kids on Reddit, so that’s why you’re seeing my problems. I’m not posting about all the relationships which work well. I could update about the 30+ individuals I am working successfully with but that’s not of much interest.

there’s a bias, I don’t need help/advice with things which are being dealt with successfully.
You were having some issues with another person through emails or some $hit like that.
 

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the big boss loves him. His previous team had a staff retention issue and it’s common knowledge it’s because of the above. However the boss has promoted him. The people leaving were good people too.
If you've kept in touch, you could ask about where they went. Did they get similar pay, and in a better environment?


as far as I see it, money isn’t everything and it’s better to take a pay cut (and still be well paid) rather than get entangled with a boss like this.

on a personal level we get on well, it’s just he is ruthlessly self serving in every respect.
If your new boss steals your sales, how much will that impact your salary + bonuses? You're getting paid better now, presumably with commissions and bonuses included. Won't your pay take a hit as he steals your best work?
 
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