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how would you follow this up:

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Well, I never compliment a hot woman's looks. Would be like telling a guy who is 6' 8" that he is tall. It's obvious.

I would have went with a compliment about something else non looks based that was a genuine compliment or commented on something in her profile.
i never do either. truly. if i comment on her appearance at all it'll be something like"wow nice headband color coordination" or "why you wearing these cinderella hand me downs?"

in this case i thought it was funny. she obviously expects it, so i spun it to make it to give another angle. its worth trying your own tactics that go against cardinal rules like "don't compliment her" imo. in my experience you can break the rules sometimes
 
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It doesn’t really matter. If she likes you she will keep the conversation going. Hopefully she didn’t take 3 days to respond back.

I would say something cheeky like “I can teach you, I get compliments all the time” or “there is a first time for everything”. If she responds back I’d ask her out after that.

PS: The picture seems too good to be true. Don’t get catfished.
 

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Yeah I never open with compliments either. Your initial comment can be seen as playful sarcasm, and seems she's being playfully sarcastic back. She also hasn't asked anything, so I'd go with a statement too, something like "well at least you have good taste in men".
 

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It doesn’t really matter. If she likes you she will keep the conversation going. Hopefully she didn’t take 3 days to respond back.

I would say something cheeky like “I can teach you, I get compliments all the time” or “there is a first time for everything”. If she responds back I’d ask her out after that.

PS: The picture seems too good to be true. Don’t get catfished.
Those are some good lines though for sure.

I don't think you should assume any hot girl is a catfish, that shvt is way less common than people think. I've only ever been catfished by fat women and it's only happened 4 times out of probably 100+ OLD dates. If this girl was fat that would be a fvcking travesty though.

Yeah I agree it doesn't really matter, if a girl is interested your only job is to maintain the status quo. But I'm not gonna sit here and pretend I don't wanna smash her. I'd go full simp just for the chance to put my penis in her vagina once.
 
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First off, since this is Hinge, I never say anything.

I like them, if they like me back we have a conversation.

I wouldn't have opened like this, but the positive is it sounds like you're being sarcastic, so she replied sarcastically. I might keep it going and say something like "damn...I really wanted to be the first (plus whatever your normal follow-up would've been)".

I was going to write a more serious response, but I think you have to continue framing it as a sarcastic joke, otherwise, you'll come off as every other idiot who likes her pics and says "You're hot".

In the future, I usually open with some variation of "How's it goin gorgeous" as it breaks the ice to start a conversation.

This is definitely an overanalysis, but this is how I've gotten my last couple of plates recently since the area I live is so dry in terms of women. As some others have said, if she's REALLY interested you have a lot of leeway with your responses, but I'm advising where I'd take the conversation, personally.
 

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Those are some good lines though for sure.

I don't think you should assume any hot girl is a catfish, that shvt is way less common than people think. I've only ever been catfished by fat women and it's only happened 4 times out of probably 100+ OLD dates. If this girl was fat that would be a fvcking travesty though.

Yeah I agree it doesn't really matter, if a girl is interested your only job is to maintain the status quo. But I'm not gonna sit here and pretend I don't wanna smash her. I'd go full simp just for the chance to put my penis in her vagina once.
Did you answer back?

The “experts” here will help you get laid.
 

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"Call it as I see it", OP. With an "lol" as an optional 2nd text.

At that point you have to segue into talking about the weekend or whatever bc that opener was interesting, lol. But it did get a response, so I'd roll with it.
 

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Or you can go the full Borat route and go "you want make hanky-panky?" lol
 

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Did you answer back?

The “experts” here will help you get laid.
I followed your advice and sent a combination of both your suggestions.

I sent "Well there is a first time for everything. I can teach you, I get compliments all the time."

She didn't reply yet and I seriously doubt that it will go anywhere even if she does, but if so I'll push for her # or IG and just shoot my shot like normal. Imo, when dealing with women around the 8.5+ range the only strategy is to go for the high risk high reward approach and move fast.

Alternatively, I could try to friendzone her and use her for pre-selection.
 

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I followed your advice and sent a combination of both your suggestions.

I sent "Well there is a first time for everything. I can teach you, I get compliments all the time."

She didn't reply yet and I seriously doubt that it will go anywhere even if she does, but if so I'll push for her # or IG and just shoot my shot like normal. Imo, when dealing with women around the 8.5+ range the only strategy is to go for the high risk high reward approach and move fast.

Alternatively, I could try to friendzone her and use her for pre-selection.
If she doesn’t answer message her in 3 days. Ask her if she has seen or knows a dude that looks kind of homeless but he is really a poet riding a bicycle with a cat on his shoulder around the streets of Amsterdam.
 

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I followed your advice and sent a combination of both your suggestions.

I sent "Well there is a first time for everything. I can teach you, I get compliments all the time."

She didn't reply yet and I seriously doubt that it will go anywhere even if she does, but if so I'll push for her # or IG and just shoot my shot like normal. Imo, when dealing with women around the 8.5+ range the only strategy is to go for the high risk high reward approach and move fast.

Alternatively, I could try to friendzone her and use her for pre-selection.
You're coming off to eager/available imo. It's just in a playful banter phase and not likely to go further unless she asks something or finds you hilarious.
 

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You're coming off to eager/available imo. It's just in a playful banter phase and not likely to go further unless she asks something or finds you hilarious.
That's because I am eager. How many women like that do guys who aren't top .01% fvck in their life? She's 24 btw

Pretending to not be eager when you are is retarded. She'll see right through it. Better to be congruent.

Either way, I didn't even expect her to reply to my original comment let alone the follow up. The odds of actually getting her #, agreeing to a date, not flaking, then fvcking her, are approx 1-5% at best.
 
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That's because I am eager. How many women like that do guys who aren't top .01% fvck in their life? She's 24 btw.

Pretending to not be eager when you are is retarded. It's not congruent.

Either way, I didn't even expect her to reply to my original comment let alone the follow up. The odds of actually getting her #, agreeing to a date, not flaking, then fvcking her, are approx 1-5% at best.
But you don't know anything about her, you're eager for a fantasy you've cooked up in your mind, not the real thing. Personally I work to remain in a constant state of qualifying her, which is the opposite of eagerness. Delay delay delay and proceed with reservation.
 

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But you don't know anything about her, you're eager for a fantasy you've cooked up in your mind, not the real thing. Personally I work to remain in a constant state of qualifying her, which is the opposite of eagerness. Delay delay delay and proceed with reservation.
There's no fantasy. Hot is hot. You can try to play that game with a hot chick if you want but good luck holding that sort of frame for a long period, 1 slip up and she'll see through the charade. Sometimes just being real is effective with those types of women.
 

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There's no fantasy. Hot is hot. You can try to play that game with a hot chick if you want but good luck holding that sort of frame for a long period, 1 slip up and she'll see through the charade. Sometimes just being real is effective with those types of women.
You bring up good points, and you play the game no matter what. I may find her attractive physically but so does every other guy. What's novel to her(and what all women really want) is deeper attraction, which requires endless qualifying for me to do. So I'm naturally more reserved.

It's good that you're mindful of the feedback that her hotness is pushing you off center. Like others have mentioned, there are no magic words in one or two responses that get you laid. It's just a vibe you'll give off throughout.

What's important is what you do with that feedback. If you try to push on by overthinking rather than withdrawing to recenter yourself, then you're perpetuating the false frame narrative you mentioned.

The natural would kindly withdraw or ghost, recenter, then reassess from a more independent headspace. She's like a mirror or lens that you're using to learn about yourself.

Ideally there is no conscious thinking about frame beyond realizing you're off center and re-centering. Re-centering might take weeks or months. It's not faked, it's cultivated naturally. If every guy did this, SS wouldn't exist.
 
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