Go out and volunteer and lessen the amount of people in your life who are strangers

[oc16]

I am a volunteer with a county parks system and worked the county fair last night. It was just another volunteer and I and most of the staff in my location were men and women in their 20's.

Although the women were 20-25 years my junior, you never know if I might run into them somewhere. These women were young, but now we are no longer strangers to each other. The more people you meet, the better chance you might meet somebody indirectly through them.

Perhaps I will be out somewhere and one of them will recognize me. They might have another attractive female in their group who is in their 30's. These are longshot scenarios, but any way to increase the odds is always a plus.

 

[MatureDJ]

I remember when some PUA gurus were saying that volunteering was a great way to mack chicks. I looked around, and all I saw were fat chicks.

 

[SW15]

I remember when some PUA gurus were saying that volunteering was a great way to mack chicks. I looked around, and all I saw were fat chicks.

Are you sure that it was PUA gurus? It's very common blue pill advice for men to do volunteer activity to meet women. Mostly every single man hears the "go volunteer" advice if he's single more than a few months.

longshot scenarios

I believe volunteering is a longshot in terms of its effectiveness for getting first dates and/or sex.

 

[eli77]

awesome way to meet people in general depending on the situation.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

awesome way to meet people in general depending on the situation.

Dudes that think that you're supposed to go volunteer and then ten minutes later meet a hottie at the volunteer place are missing the point.

Volunteering helps you get out of the house, work on your social skills, maybe expand your social network, which can increase the probability of meeting somebody.

And since your volunteering, if it sucks you can just leave.

 

[BaronOfHair]

I am a volunteer with a county parks system and worked the county fair last night. It was just another volunteer and I and most of the staff in my location were men and women in their 20's.

Although the women were 20-25 years my junior, you never know if I might run into them somewhere. These women were young, but now we are no longer strangers to each other. The more people you meet, the better chance you might meet somebody indirectly through them.

Perhaps I will be out somewhere and one of them will recognize me. They might have another attractive female in their group who is in their 30's. These are longshot scenarios, but any way to increase the odds is always a plus.

Props to you. Most guys aren't having problems with women, so much so much they are having a tough time being social more generally. The conventional wisdom ("It's all MeToo's fault!!!")doesn't hold up, when one recognizes: This was a problem noticed at the very beginning of the previous decade https://slate.com/human-interest/20...pping-up-in-tv-and-movies-like-greenberg.html If not earlier

 

[SW15]

Most guys aren't having problems with women, so much so much they are having a tough time being social more generally.

I think this has been a bigger problem since the growth of high speed internet at home in the early 2000s.

Having high speed internet at home and the contents of the internet have made it easier to sit at home and do nothing.

Cable/satellite TV in the 1990s - early 2000s wasn't captivating enough to make people want to sit at home and nothing for as long as home internet.

The internet has also evolved since the early 2000s with the development of social media and YouTube being the most significant developments. After that, I think the next biggest development was the free porn tube sites. There was plenty of porn on the internet prior to the tube sites but the tube sites made it more accessible.

Internet porn has made being a social hermit easier in a way that the 1980s-1990s forms of porn couldn't do. In the 1980s-1990s, there was VHS/DVD porn to consume at home and some add on cable/satellite channel porn like the Spice channel. While those advances made in home porn consumption easier, the level of ease doesn't compare to the ease of internet porn.

I think a lot of men finding internet porn and social media easier than dealing with human beings in real life settings.

 

[BaronOfHair]

I think this has been a bigger problem since the growth of high speed internet at home in the early 2000s.

Having high speed internet at home and the contents of the internet have made it easier to sit at home and do nothing.

Cable/satellite TV in the 1990s - early 2000s wasn't captivating enough to make people want to sit at home and nothing for as long as home internet.

The internet has also evolved since the early 2000s with the development of social media and YouTube being the most significant developments. After that, I think the next biggest development was the free porn tube sites. There was plenty of porn on the internet prior to the tube sites but the tube sites made it more accessible.

Internet porn has made being a social hermit easier in a way that the 1980s-1990s forms of porn couldn't do. In the 1980s-1990s, there was VHS/DVD porn to consume at home and some add on cable/satellite channel porn like the Spice channel. While those advances made in home porn consumption easier, the level of ease doesn't compare to the ease of internet porn.

I think a lot of men finding internet porn and social media easier than dealing with human beings in real life settings.

Yep. One can't help but wonder: If so many of men in RL weren't near carbon copies of Seth Rogen and Co in "Knocked Up", would MeToo have taken hold of the culture as easily as it did?

Many of these unflattering depictions of men in the media wouldn't be given much weight by the general public, if so many of us didn't also fit those stereotypes

 

[SW15]

One can't help but wonder: If so many of men in RL weren't near carbon copies of Seth Rogen and Co in "Knocked Up", would MeToo have taken hold of the culture as easily as it did?

Many of these unflattering depictions of men in the media wouldn't be given much weight by the general public, if so many of us didn't also fit those stereotypes

Think about this -- "Knocked Up" was released in 2007 and filmed in 2006. The depictions of those guys would have been the earliest Millennials (1981-1984 birth years or so). Today, those men would be in their early 40s. Later Millennials and Gen Z got even more pathetic than those guys.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Think about this -- "Knocked Up" was released in 2007 and filmed in 2006. The depictions of those guys would have been the earliest Millennials (1981-1984 birth years or so). Today, those men would be in their early 40s. Later Millennials and Gen Z got even more pathetic than those guys.

As discussed here https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threa...tism-1950s-nostalgiacels.281853/#post-3114900 , the "Crisis Of Masculinity" we today mistake for a contemporary phenomena was already becoming apparent earlier in The 20th Century. The Counterculture of the late 60s and it's ethos of "Tune In, Drop Out" really turned that up to 11, and left men in The West with a legacy we're still not quite out of today

Back to the point of The OP: More men spending time out in the world defying stereotypes about the modern male can only benefit our PR

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

I find it fascinating how volunteering is always pushed as a benefit for yourself in some way or another, rather than doing it out of pure altruism/duty. Not to say that's a bad reason, the net result is still good, but it's just amusing to me.

 

[BaronOfHair]

I find it fascinating how volunteering is always pushed as a benefit for yourself in some way or another, rather than doing it out of pure altruism/duty

No one does anything out of pure altruism/duty

 

[BaronOfHair]

Think about this -- "Knocked Up" was released in 2007 and filmed in 2006. The depictions of those guys would have been the earliest Millennials (1981-1984 birth years or so). Today, those men would be in their early 40s. Later Millennials and Gen Z got even more pathetic than those guys.

Funny as flicks like those were in many respects, I today regret shelling out bucks for their price of admission, and believe that doing so was no less obscene than Blacks rabidly consuming Tyler Perry's modern day minstrel shows is. Hell, one could easily produce a movie along the lines of Hollywood Shuffle today

satrizing the way men are depicted in popular media these days

Things won't start to change, until

-Men stop taking roles which cast them as pathetic schmucks or/and societal dregs

-We start openly denouncing and shunning the Ray Romanos, Kevin Jameses, and Judd Apatows of the world

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

No one does anything out of pure altruism/duty

Yes that's because Americans are "consumers" not citizens.

 

[eli77]

love this.