I'm afraid to have a relationship with someone because of my inexperience.

[BackInTheGame78]

Actually, on holiday, in clubs, etc. I saw that girls have it easier. But I don't know when I'll go again.
Frankly, I can't really have fun in places like pubs and clubs.

I will be clear. There was a period when I masturbated really hard. Sometimes 4 times a day... There were times when I saw all girls as just sexual. Now I can say that I started nofap based on the recommendations.

I came back to my small city from vacation Not just me. Everyone, including my girlfriends, complains about the lack of people here and the lack of relationships.

I realized that my situation wasn't as bad as I thought, but I still have a lot to learn about girls. And it seems like it would take me many years to gain experience by experiencing everything. I don't want to be a 40 year old virgin...
What do you recommend? Reading more etc. Do you think it is useful?
My biggest concern is being inexperienced in everything. When I first talked to a girl, I was inexperienced, my heart felt like it was going to burst, but now I'm more comfortable.
Still, I feel like I'm 21 and overdue. So it feels like everyone has experienced something.
I'm still like a child.


By the way, I had exams and couldn't read your messages for a while. That's why I asked you all a question in one message. Please excuse me.

Forget reading. Start doing and failing so you can find out what you are doing wrong, improve on it and start becoming successful.

 

[nelysses]

Forget reading. Start doing and failing so you can find out what you are doing wrong, improve on it and start becoming successful.

Actually, I agree with this, but what if I don't have enough time?
Most people fall in love with someone in high school and experience that first love.
I wasn't even talking to people in high school. Even though I started this at university, as I said, I am still very inexperienced, but I am 21 years old.
I'm making the same mistakes now that people make when they're 15.
I look around me, 21 year old people are really mature. I still feel like a child.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Actually, I agree with this, but what if I don't have enough time?
Most people fall in love with someone in high school and experience that first love.
I wasn't even talking to people in high school. Even though I started this at university, as I said, I am still very inexperienced, but I am 21 years old.
I'm making the same mistakes now that people make when they're 15.
I look around me, 21 year old people are really mature. I still feel like a child.

Stop with the excuses. Your reasoning is straight up bullsh!t. Pardon the language.

 

[corrector]

I had my first love at 36, got married to someone else at 39.....and write cringe threads at 48. Who cares about age dude.

 

[BPH]

Stop with the excuses. Your reasoning is straight up bullsh!t. Pardon the language.

Welcome to the club. I feel like every time I check this forum I see a new thread by this guy asking the same questions.

 

[nelysses]

Stop with the excuses. Your reasoning is straight up bullsh!t. Pardon the language.

Excuse ? Reallay man?
Im just talking about feelig late for that things. I didn't say that I cannot do these things etc.. I just asked for a shortcut.
By the way, please excuse my English if I'm making mistakes. I live in Turkey and don't know good.

 

[BPH]

Excuse ? Reallay man?
Im just talking about feelig late for that things. I didn't say that I cannot do these things etc.. I just asked for a shortcut.
By the way, please excuse my English if I'm making mistakes. I live in Turkey and don't know good.

Dude...go out and make mistakes, then learn from them. Here's an analogy.

This is you:

"I want to be buff and in shape."
Then go to the gym.
"I can't, I don't have time and don't know what I'm doing."
Well sh** I guess you don't really want to get buff then...

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Excuse ? Reallay man?
Im just talking about feelig late for that things. I didn't say that I cannot do these things etc.. I just asked for a shortcut.
By the way, please excuse my English if I'm making mistakes. I live in Turkey and don't know good.

Oh, you want to take a shortcut to getting quick experience with women? Go to women who won't think that you're weird for needing instructions.
I never thought I would suggest this on a seduction board, but go to a prostitute and let her show you where to put your trouser snake.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Excuse ? Reallay man?
Im just talking about feelig late for that things. I didn't say that I cannot do these things etc.. I just asked for a shortcut.
By the way, please excuse my English if I'm making mistakes. I live in Turkey and don't know good.

There are no shortcuts for anything worth doing in life.

Aren't you studying to be a doctor?

Do they just let you read a book or two and then let you become a doctor? Hell no...you have to go through years of schooling, do clinicals, residencies, etc before you pass.

Same thing with women. You have to put in the work. If you aren't willing to do that then you aren't going to improve at all and will just keep spinning your wheels.

As my father used to tell me growing up:
"Bin nasihatten bir musibet yeğdir."

 

[H8CourtshipWithAPassion]

There are no shortcuts for anything worth doing in life.

Aren't you studying to be a doctor?

Do they just let you read a book or two and then let you become a doctor? Hell no...you have to go through years of schooling, do clinicals, residencies, etc before you pass.

Same thing with women. You have to put in the work. If you aren't willing to do that then you aren't going to improve at all and will just keep spinning your wheels.

As my father used to tell me growing up:
"Bin nasihatten bir musibet yeğdir."

reminds me of a comment that angered me a lot, because on guy said "at least the road of doing work has rewards", yeah, because i like to think, that is mainly true for guys, men.

Other comments i read: " But yes, you have to put in the work. Fortunately, even that is very rewarding and satisfying, since men are wired to enjoy striving and building.

"expecting to not have to put effort into anything and get rewarded is just pure delusion."

Once again, mainly true for men more than women though. Yes, i'm completely aware that women do put in effort or work when it comes to working on their appearance, fitness, body, but effort or work when it comes to actually trying to get a date or set up a date, form or establish a relationship, that is normally or obviously on the mans shoulders.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Once again, mainly true for men more than women though. Yes, i'm completely aware that women do put in effort or work when it comes to working on their appearance, fitness, body, but effort or work when it comes to actually trying to get a date or set up a date, form or establish a relationship, that is normally or obviously on the mans shoulders.

If I would have to trade that burden for suffering menstruation cramps every month, I know what I'd choose.

Men and women are different. Equal, but not the same. Get used to it. Work on your masculinity. All this whining about the burden of manhood is not making you any more attractive. Grow cojones and become the man these women want to be with.

And then you can snub them and become gay.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

reminds me of a comment that angered me a lot, because on guy said "at least the road of doing work has rewards", yeah, because i like to think, that is mainly true for guys, men.

Other comments i read: " But yes, you have to put in the work. Fortunately, even that is very rewarding and satisfying, since men are wired to enjoy striving and building.

"expecting to not have to put effort into anything and get rewarded is just pure delusion."

Once again, mainly true for men more than women though. Yes, i'm completely aware that women do put in effort or work when it comes to working on their appearance, fitness, body, but effort or work when it comes to actually trying to get a date or set up a date, form or establish a relationship, that is normally or obviously on the mans shoulders.

Simply not true. Women get rejected by the men they actually want to date all the time.

Most women end up settling for men they don't want who are their 2nd, 3rd or 4th choices.

How excited would you be about having to settle for those women?

 

[H8CourtshipWithAPassion]

If I would have to trade that burden for suffering menstruation cramps every month, I know what I'd choose.

Men and women are different. Equal, but not the same. Get used to it. Work on your masculinity. All this whining about the burden of manhood is not making you any more attractive. Grow cojones and become the man these women want to be with.

And then you can snub them and become gay.

"become the man women want to be with", yup, reminds me of a powerful statement from Rollo Tomassi, from his famous book "The Rational Male".

Men have to build and create, earn their value, Women have to protect and preserve their value"

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Men have to build and create, earn their value, Women have to protect and preserve their value"

And whiners get the leftovers.

 

[H8CourtshipWithAPassion]

If I would have to trade that burden for suffering menstruation cramps every month, I know what I'd choose.

Men and women are different. Equal, but not the same. Get used to it. Work on your masculinity. All this whining about the burden of manhood is not making you any more attractive. Grow cojones and become the man these women want to be with.

And then you can snub them and become gay.

yup, reminds me of a quote or a statement that from a guy that only added fuel to fire, as for whiners get the leftovers, or better yet, nothing yet, because even unattractive women still get repulsed by men who have behave the same way men do that make them unattractive to the 9s and 10s

 

[BackInTheGame78]

yup, reminds me of a quote or a statement that from a guy that only added fuel to fire, as for whiners get the leftovers, or better yet, nothing yet, because even unattractive women still get repulsed by men who have behave the same way men do that make them unattractive to the 9s and 10s

Yes because their behavior makes them far more uglier than their looks ever could. Which is so many good looking men struggle...their behavior is turning women off instead of turning them on.

They literally would do better by not even opening their mouths.

 

[H8CourtshipWithAPassion]

Yes because their behavior makes them far more uglier than their looks ever could. Which is so many good looking men struggle...their behavior is turning women off instead of turning them on.

They literally would do better by not even opening their mouths.

yup, the reverse or the other way around is normally not true as much

 

[BaronOfHair]

...reminds me of a powerful statement from Rollo Tomassi, from his famous book "The Rational Male".

Men have to build and create, earn their value, Women have to protect and preserve their value"

He's wrong though: No one HAS to do anything. It's HEALTHIER for us to spend less time groaning over all the s-it we find objectionable, and more setting pragmatically achievable goals, the probable ROIs of which are strong

This is a choice each person(regardless of gender)has to make

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Yes because their behavior makes them far more uglier than their looks ever could. Which is so many good looking men struggle...their behavior is turning women off instead of turning them on.

They literally would do better by not even opening their mouths.

yup, the reverse or the other way around is normally not true as much

Many 'attractive' people become less attractive when they start to talk. Both men and women.