Vagina odours

[BeExcellent]

If I'm a betting person it's either candida (yeast) infection or BV. She needs to see a doctor. There can also be an adjustment period with a new partner even if monogamous.

Why? Because the vagina is a self cleaning organ. Women do not need to douche or do other things to actively clean the canal. The outer anatomy? Sure. Regular soap & water is best.

Douching can actually get the vaginal flora very out of whack and is not a good regular practice. It causes more problems than it solves.

Now. When semen is introduced, that's not something that would otherwise be in there in a non sexually active vagina. So when male fluids are introduced, it can take the vagina a little time to reset to the new normal (presence of male fluids), even if you are her only partner.

Multiple partners (yours or hers or both) can further complicate things as noted in my first post.

If it continues, conversate & she needs a check up. A doctor can give her a script to reset the flora once an exam shows what is overgrowing in there.

Cheers

 

[Murk]

If I'm a betting person it's either candida (yeast) infection or BV. She needs to see a doctor. There can also be an adjustment period with a new partner even if monogamous.

Why? Because the vagina is a self cleaning organ. Women do not need to douche or do other things to actively clean the canal. The outer anatomy? Sure. Regular soap & water is best.

Douching can actually get the vaginal flora very out of whack and is not a good regular practice. It causes more problems than it solves.

Now. When semen is introduced, that's not something that would otherwise be in there in a non sexually active vagina. So when male fluids are introduced, it can take the vagina a little time to reset to the new normal (presence of male fluids), even if you are her only partner.

Multiple partners (yours or hers or both) can further complicate things as noted in my first post.

If it continues, conversate & she needs a check up. A doctor can give her a script to reset the flora once an exam shows what is overgrowing in there.

Cheers

Ok that was also my thoughts, a reset mode of sorts. But how would that explain the smell (pretty much the same but less) when we first had sex. There would have been no prior contagion up until that point. That's why I'm sceptical.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

OP: you're not going to be able to reason or sleuth your way around this one.

The vag is a mysterious and wonderful thing. Her smelling different is simply the outcome of a change in body chemistry - why the chemistry changed could be due to many things - and you'll never know what caused it. If you are so worried about her being plundered by someone else, you should walk away. Being suspicious will make you lose frame, be passive-aggressive, and generally feel bad. Why bother? After reading your posts, you're already borderline obsessed with this.

You guys were broken up - maybe she bonked someone else, perhaps she didn't, it's NUNYA.

Again, if you're sweating this (so long as she takes care of it), you should move on.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

There's also a reason for smell in attraction. I noticed that when it became clear to me that my wife wanted a divorce, her smell seemed to change and became repugnant. Like the body knows you no longer match. I noticed because I'm very primal with sex and the smell of my lover is important for my lust, but I also read an article later that stated that most lovers unconsciously get more passionate when someone smells delicious to them. And despite the huge profits made in perfumes, they've not been able to make a perfume that makes everyone attractive.

 

[Murk]

Update: called her.

She said she knew something was off. A coconut-scented tissue might be the cause. I asked her why she didn't mention anything and she said it's embarrassing. She was crying and gaslighting. Apparently was taking BV gel in March, the symptoms were coming and going, didn't go to doctors. I asked so are you going to the doctors she said "I guess". She wasn't sure if it was BV. the sotryt weren't adding up.

She started crying and I asn't buying it. Accusing me of sleeping with girls, have I had an STD test. I kept saying BV has nothing to do with STD's.

She thought she was imagining the symptoms. Doesn't add up if she took the gel and them symptoms went away. Then later she said there were no symptoms. I said "your story is wild" and she again broke out crying.

I told her, "we are trying to have an adult conversation about the facts here", she kept crying to gaslight me and when I didn't show emotion she stopped real quick.

I don't believe her, there's no way I could know. I think I will just eject from this, I don't need the drama.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

You care about this woman and you are pushing on speculation not facts. Your gut feeling about this is rooted in your fears that she has had sex with another man.

Imagine it was something related to your penis, how would you feel if you liked a gal and she was complaining about some aspect of your penis and having sex with you - something you do not really have any control over?

She has a feminine issue it’s very closely linked to her identity: her vagina, like your penis it is part of a persons core identity, sex is obviously important to both of you. Imagine being told that something at the core of your identity was deemed unacceptable by someone you want to accept you.

Just a thought. Her crying is not suspect, you are attacking her personally and casting aspersions that are rooted in your own insecurities. All without facts to base it on.

Our ways of approaching this issue are markedly different. Is it unpleasant? Yes, we agree on that. My approach if she was someone I cared about, would be “can you see a doctor and get this handled?” You may not realize it but your drilling her about this is eroding whatever you’ve shared, which I imagine is important to you, otherwise you wouldn’t be posting about it.

My suggestion is above take it or leave it. If you cannot center yourself in the facts about what you’re experiencing and rather go with your gut, then maybe it is best (as you said), to let her be. She will resolve the issue and go on to sharing herself with someone else. It’s as simple as that.

But do understand that you’re hurting her, deeply. To me, that matters. It may not to you.

Either way, I hope this issue resolves with the least hurt to either of you. Be gentle.

p.s. my ex-wife, who I definitely know was not having sex with anyone other than me had recurring candidiasis and uti’s, usually it was related to us having vigorous sex. It was just something metabolic, it was exacerbated by her being a low libido person so it made our sex life untenable, so I do have personal experience with this.

p.p.s. I always use lube during sex, even when the woman lubricates like an oil slick. I use raw, unrefined, organic cooking grade coconut oil for sex. It’s antiviral, antibacterial and anti fungal and it’s feel is incomparable to anything man made, it smells good and tastes good and because it’s hydrophobic as most oils are, it doesn’t dry out and makes things much more comfortable for both parties, it will not harm things either, if anything it helps keep things under control as trauma to the tissues of vaginal canal (inevitable to some extent depending on you and her’s dimensions mostly) can promote infections. My experience is most women have never used it, and they love the feel and smell and that it can help. It makes them feel even sexier and may help on deep penetration if she even hints at discomfort when it occurs.

 

[Murk]

You care about this woman and you are pushing on speculation not facts. Your gut feeling about this is rooted in your fears that she has had sex with another man.

Imagine it was something related to your penis, how would you feel if you liked a gal and she was complaining about some aspect of your penis and having sex with you - something you do not really have any control over?

She has a feminine issue it’s very closely linked to her identity: her vagina, like your penis it is part of a persons core identity, sex is obviously important to both of you. Imagine being told that something at the core of your identity was deemed unacceptable by someone you want to accept you.

Just a thought. Her crying is not suspect, you are attacking her personally and casting aspersions that are rooted in your own insecurities. All without facts to base it on.

Our ways of approaching this issue are markedly different. Is it unpleasant? Yes, we agree on that. My approach if she was someone I cared about, would be “can you see a doctor and get this handled?” You may not realize it but your drilling her about this is eroding whatever you’ve shared, which I imagine is important to you, otherwise you wouldn’t be posting about it.

My suggestion is above take it or leave it. If you cannot center yourself in the facts about what you’re experiencing and rather go with your gut, then maybe it is best (as you said), to let her be. She will resolve the issue and go on to sharing herself with someone else. It’s as simple as that.

Very wise post

 

[Divorced w 3]

Well if nothing else, I have a new use for the popcorn butter flavored coconut oil in the pantry.

 

[BeExcellent]

+1 on coconut oil. Hubby and I regularly use it. Namely because his morning wood happens at like 4:30am, when I'm sound asleep, so he if he is ready to go, we grab some coconut oil and game on, otherwise he risks getting frustrated trying to wake up my anatomy, lol. It's amazing stuff as lube, antimicrobial as @Pierce Manhammer stated, smells beachy & is very comfortable.

Concur also with what Pierce said about being more delicate with her feelings.

Good to be direct and say, "Gee something's up down there, would you mind having a doctor take a peek?" rather than getting accusatory.

BV is ABSOLUTELY considered a STD; it's just that sexual contact is not the only possible cause.....AND if either one of you or both of you have other partners, yes that can upset her flora and cause it.

Who knows why. She needs to get checked out, and obviously she's super sensitive about the whole thing. Try and be kind. Pierce is right about that.

 

[Divorced w 3]

+1 on coconut oil. Hubby and I regularly use it. Namely because his morning wood happens at like 4:30am, when I'm sound asleep, so he if he is ready to go, we grab some coconut oil and game on, otherwise he risks getting frustrated trying to wake up my anatomy, lol. It's amazing stuff as lube, antimicrobial as @Pierce Manhammer stated, smells beachy & is very comfortable.

Concur also with what Pierce said about being more delicate with her feelings.

Good to be direct and say, "Gee something's up down there, would you mind having a doctor take a peek?" rather than getting accusatory.

BV is ABSOLUTELY considered a STD; it's just that sexual contact is not the only possible cause.....AND if either one of you or both of you have other partners, yes that can upset her flora and cause it.

Who knows why. She needs to get checked out, and obviously she's super sensitive about the whole thing. Try and be kind. Pierce is right about that.

Shucks that’s an idea also - just keep a little coconut oil next to the bed and slide it on the old palm tree in the middle of the night and just give her a gentle unconscious nudge. Tonight’s sexual assault brought to you by the good folks at dr Bronners. I love it.

 

[Divorced w 3]

This poor guy though. Tough place to be. Hang in there Murk.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

All joking aside dw3, do not use coconut oil that has anything in it other than pure coconut oil.

This is a public service announcement.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

You can get vaginal infections from fingering with dirty hands...

 

[Divorced w 3]

All joking aside dw3, do not use coconut oil that has anything in it other than pure coconut oil.

This is a public service announcement.

Brings a whole new dimension to the old popcorn trick in the movie theater

 

[Giovanni SouthSide]

It's generally either bacterial vaginosis or old baby batter up in there from past encounters that now eroded to genetic incompatibility.

It also has a lot to do with her diet.
If she drinks enough water, eats fruits and veggies ; healthy diet. A lot of busy chicks eat like sh1t.

It depends on the type of girl you're dealing with

Find a girl that cleans her pvssy well everyday and it won’t smell. I dated a girl many years ago and her pvssy always smelled great and tasted like fresh kiwi fruit even after a long day at work.
I later found out that her mother was a super slut and put her daughter up on game on how to properly clean her pvssy every damn day.
This is exactly the same as when guys don't wash their balls and pull back the foreskin on their penis to scrub and rinse...it just starts to smell really badly until it reeks of putrid rank.

After about 3 encounters with smelly coochies, I started to look into why exactly the majority of girls had ranky smelling pvssies.
My theory is"bacterial vaginosis". And this specfically is caused by girls who do a poor job of cleaning their vagina post sex and more importantly post cycle. That pvssy smells like a fish crawled up in there and died.

Difficult conversation to have with her unless you are a straight shooter, take ownership of the chick you are banging and could look at her dead in the eye to spill it.

I've always gone with the policy of mentioning it but doing it in a not so serious manner. There is absolutely nothing wrong with telling a woman your are fvcking about body odor you deem unacceptable and will not tolerate. Especially if it's this much of a concern for you and OCD reasons.

One day while you are watching a movie/tv or cuddled up with her, say “hey are you okay? She'll say yes why and say "I noticed that you smell a little different down there than usual wasn’t sure if something was going on. You should take care of it”

She don’t do anything about it then you only got one option.

 

[Carson02]

I’ve heard a few females mention in my presence how they stink down there. I’m not sure if that is a common conversation between females, but should be listed as a top red flag if a dude hears it as an admission.

 

[Chow Mein]

Yes. It’s a new d!ck
If the stench is different, it ain’t a coincident

 

[Chow Mein]

It's generally either bacterial vaginosis or old baby batter up in there from past encounters that now eroded to genetic incompatibility.

It also has a lot to do with her diet.
If she drinks enough water, eats fruits and veggies ; healthy diet. A lot of busy chicks eat like sh1t.

It depends on the type of girl you're dealing with

Find a girl that cleans her pvssy well everyday and it won’t smell. I dated a girl many years ago and her pvssy always smelled great and tasted like fresh kiwi fruit even after a long day at work.
I later found out that her mother was a super slut and put her daughter up on game on how to properly clean her pvssy every damn day.
This is exactly the same as when guys don't wash their balls and pull back the foreskin on their penis to scrub and rinse...it just starts to smell really badly until it reeks of putrid rank.

After about 3 encounters with smelly coochies, I started to look into why exactly the majority of girls had ranky smelling pvssies.
My theory is"bacterial vaginosis". And this specfically is caused by girls who do a poor job of cleaning their vagina post sex and more importantly post cycle. That pvssy smells like a fish crawled up in there and died.

Difficult conversation to have with her unless you are a straight shooter, take ownership of the chick you are banging and could look at her dead in the eye to spill it.

I've always gone with the policy of mentioning it but doing it in a not so serious manner. There is absolutely nothing wrong with telling a woman your are fvcking about body odor you deem unacceptable and will not tolerate. Especially if it's this much of a concern for you and OCD reasons.

One day while you are watching a movie/tv or cuddled up with her, say “hey are you okay? She'll say yes why and say "I noticed that you smell a little different down there than usual wasn’t sure if something was going on. You should take care of it”

She don’t do anything about it then you only got one option.

Agreed, but your should confront her about it subtly. Give a good whiff of air while having sex with her to get the message across