If she is into you, she will likely be texting you within 24 hours, if not the next morning.
I've never had anything happen with a woman who didn't text me back within 24 hours of a date. Almost always means she isn't interested.
It's a good sign to hear something from a woman within 24 hours of the end of a date. I think that's something that men should look for when trying to evaluate where things stand and if an offer for another date needs to be made. This is important in the pre-sex phase of dating.
I won't rush the 2nd date offer, which now typically happens via text message.
@EyeBRollin has his famous "Wait 5-9 days to contact after a first date or contact her within 1 day if she contacts you first" technique. This is a modern adaptation of Doc Love's 1990s era "Wait a Week to Call" technique, a technique that came out of the landline era (more on this below).
If I were to have a first date on a Wednesday night, the absolute earliest I would contact her is Sunday night, which is about 4 days. When I say this, it is based on hearing nothing from her since Wednesday night. I would want her thinking that I was busy seeing other women during that weekend.
I miss the pre-text message era of communication. I liked when communication was mainly done on basic cell phones, which was the standard for most of the 2000s. This is when I first started dating as an adult in the early 2000s. I liked mobile phone calls in the 2000s as they made people more reachable than the landline era. I was in high school as the landline era was starting to transition into the basic mobile phone era.
I think early stage of dating communication was better when we primarily used the phone call instead of the text message. If I can, I try to discuss communication mode preferences as early as I possible can with a woman. I will use phone calls more than text messages with certain women if I think she would be receptive. I generally default to text messaging first. I'm more likely to use calls with women who are closer in age to my own age. Later Millennials and Gen Z are not very phone call oriented.
In December 2010, Roosh V predicted that in 10 years that all men would have transitioned to text message game and that calling game might see a bump in results because it would be different from the masses. We are 13.5 years past that prediction and I don't think it was that far off.
Doing the opposite of what every other guy does could be all you need to build attraction with women, even if it doesn't necessary hit her genetic buttons of
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I went on a second date with her today. It was good, but I realized she started doing some sh*t tests. I think I will take a step back to gauge her interest and have some distance so I don't get too involved.
Why are you going on a second date 2 days after the first one?
Might as well hold up a sign that says "I am desperate and have no options" because that's what that tells her.
No wonder why she is sh!t testing you. She thought you might be this cool dude now she is trying to figure out why you are acting needy and desperate and which one is the real you.
I agree that the 2nd date occurred too soon after the first. It can be challenging to get the right gap of time in between dates in the early stages of an interaction. Monday night would be the earliest that I would possibly schedule a second date if the first date was Wednesday night. That would only happen if the woman contacted me within 24-48 hours after a Wednesday night first date. I want her thinking that I'm busy with other women that weekend.
This is how women give guys enough rope to hang themselves early on when dating. Their goal is to disqualify you and you are playing right into her trap by doing this type of stuff.
I agree with this.
I don’t think guys understand that banging on the first date is only a normal thing for sloots. Most girls do not roll that way. That does not in any way mean she is not interested.
I don't think it is an indicator of disinterest if there is no first date sex. First date sex is more common for the more promiscuous women.
I prefer my first dates to be my second overall interaction in-person with the woman. That does increase the odds of first date sex, which is why I prefer arranging first dates from in-person methods.
I don't think it's necessary to think there's a magic number of dates for sex to happen. It usually does happen for me within the first 3 dates though. I am willing to go on a 4th date with someone if there was no sex in the first 3 dates. It does seem to be more common in my experience for sex to happen in one of the first 3 dates.
